For me, it may be that the toilet paper roll needs to have the open end away from the wall. I don’t want to reach under the roll to take a piece! That’s ludicrous!
That or my recent addiction to correcting people when they use “less” when they should use “fewer”
Discord is not a good replacement for support forums. Discord isn’t searchable by search engines.
Historically, if I had an issue with a product and I googled “[product] [issue]” I’d be met with a support forum post, with someone describing the same issue. I could read the thread to find how they resolved it. I don’t actually have to interact with the post at all, and I don’t need to ask the same question again. For most (decent) forums I don’t even need to make an account just to read the post.
Discord throws that all out the window. Now I’m met with a “JoiN OUr dIScoRd SerVEr to GEt suPPorT” page. Nothing is searchable via a search engine. And Discord’s server searchability (even in the app) has always been, at best, absolute dogshit. You already need to know exactly which text thread things were posted in, (because you can’t search the entire server at once), and you need to know exactly what was said, (because there’s no fuzzed search terms).
So 99% of the time, you just end up asking the same question that has already been asked a hundred times in the past, and now you need to wait for someone to respond. It also puts a lot more strain on the support staff, because they’re answering the same question a hundred times instead of just the once in a forum.
And don’t come at me with the “but Discord recently added a support forum feature where people can start threads and save the conversation for later” bullshit. That’s a band-aid, at best. It still isn’t searchable via search engines, so it means the above issues with Discord’s search function still apply, and the forum function is essentially useless as support forums.
Lastly, why the fuck should I be forced to join another server just to get support? What if I don’t have a discord account? What if I live in a region that Discord doesn’t support? What if I just plain don’t want to clog up my server sidebar with dozens of servers that I have only visited once? What if I just really hate the fact that your server has been configured to push notifications for every single message by default? What if I just fucking want to google my issue, and get an answer without any further effort?
And that’s assuming they even have a support staff. Most of the time I see this bullshit, it’s small dev teams maintaining niche software with less than the bare minimum of documentation.
The only problem I have with your stance is that it’s not petty, pointless nor pedantic. It’s a plague on the world of software. Discord is terrible for the use-case it’s intended for (group chats), why the fuck are people using it for their community forums???
OP asked for petty/pointless/pedantic hills. Did you miss that?
I’d argue that this is petty, because you’re still technically able to get support for your issue in the end. It just takes a lot more effort in everyone involved; More effort on your end to actually get support, and more effort on support staff because they have already answered your question a hundred times further up the thread.
No. Using discord is unacceptable. It’s not pettiness.
If it were supposed to be pronounced “jif” it would have been spelled that way, I don’t give two fucks what Stephen Wilhite said about it either.
Agreed. I think since the “G” stands for “graphics” it should be pronounced like the G in graphics.
But why? We don’t pronounce any other acronyms like that, so why treat GIF different? The U in SCUBA isn’t pronounced like it is in Underwater. The first A in CAPTCHA isn’t pronounced the same as in Automated and the CH isn’t split up to be pronounced like Computer and Human. The second A in NASA isn’t pronounced like in Administration and the I in PIN doesn’t get pronounced like Identification.
We read acronyms as their own words, not as a collection of the first sounds of each constituent word.
Tbf, you’re pointing out the vowels which make the sounds needed to pronounce the acronym as a word. But I get it, either way, we’re pronouncing the word as a standalone word.
Right in the same neighborhood… Jpeg (photographic)
Time to pronounce it jfeg lol
🤷 just cause?
Also, “gift”
Have any examples where the first letter of the acronym isn’t pronounced the same? (I’m sure there are some)
AWOL, OSHA, AIDS, ICE
UFO, not that that’s a super relevant question if we’re already admitting that our opinions are “just cause.” I think at that point the better question is “if just cause, why is there such a split in opinions?”
I think the reason GIF is so contentious is that if we can there’s a tendency to make acronyms sound like words if possible. FUBAR and SCUBA are pronounced the way they are because we’re trained from words like tuba to see the UBA and use a long U. Something like “oofo” (or “uh-fo” as you would likely argue) for UFO sounds like half a word, hence pronouncing the letters individually. The thing about GIF is that both pronunciations sound like a word, and so both feel valid enough that there can be a split in opinions. Any arguments one way or the other is just trying to justify a gut feeling about which way is “proper.”
To be fair, UFO is an initialism, not an acronym. But at the same time, if it was, I think it’d still be an example, because we’d likely pronounce the U like “oo” (as in “boo”), lol
Nearly all acronyms are technically initialisms
Nah, there’s plenty of both, even mixed in very similar subject matter. Example:
An ATM (initialism) takes a card then asks you for its PIN (acronym).
I always respond that in that case, “jpeg” should be pronounced “jfeg”.
Same with Gnome wanting to be pronounced “Gah-nome”, or Latex “Latech”. Just spell stuff the way you want it to be pronounced, or accept that people pronounce it another way
Gnome is spelt the way they want it to be said. Are you suggesting that gnome should be pronounced ‘nome’ like the garden ornament with a silent g.
Is it not?
or Latex “Latech”. Just spell stuff the way you want it to be pronounced
But they did! You’re the one who fucked it up by using an “x” (Latin letter x) instead of a “χ” (Greek letter chi).
(Also, you didn’t capitalize or format it correctly. It’s supposed to be rendered as “LAΤΕΧ”, and yes, those last three letters are
Τ Ε ΧGreek capital tau, epsilon, chi.)🤓
New hill: All brand names must be composed entirely of pronounceable characters from languages in actual use today
from languages in actual use today
Nuh uh
we all know it’s actually pronounced “yiff”
uwu
The thing is, that argument doesn’t really hold up, because g in English has two major pronunciations.
English being a bad language doesn’t excuse incorrect pronunciations. And if your argument was to hold any water, it’d be pronounced jraphics.
Also .JIF is already a file format and as far as I know, it’s pronounced, “jif” just like it looks. So if “gif” and “jif” are supposed to be pronounced the same way, then why do we even have the letter J? Fuck the letter C too while we’re at it, get a unique sound, you bastard letter.
Oh wow that’s actually a really good point!
Now prepare for it to be dismissed! People are too dug in at this point, there’s no going back. The trenches have been dug.
but g followed by i or e very regularly makes a soft g in English (and always makes a soft g in Italian, which is irrelevant I guess but I speak both). you may as well purposely mispronounce giraffe, gelatin, germ, Giorgio, giant, gentle, etc while you’re at it since it they don’t start with a j.
by english rules it very often is a soft g, but could be hard as well, but the creator has clarified multiple times it is meant to be soft, so why are people fighting it?
gift
pan / pang
hat / hate
clam / claim
one letter can and often does completely change pronunciation. i’d give you a good ol’ fashion makin fun of, but i actually think you could’ve gotten there if you would’ve thought about for a few more seconds. you seem pretty smart. shame you clicked reply too soon.
You’re on the wrong side of history, get over it.
in terms of how people refer to it these days, you may be correct that slightly more are using the hard g. what drives me nuts about the argument though is that the ‘hard g’ crowd does not have a good argument for it. the “g stands for graphics so it should be a hard g” crowd are immediately proven wrong that that’s not how any acronyms work. the “gift” crowd are immediately proven wrong as i just did above.
just be honest with yourselves. the only argument you have is “we just like it better”. if you were honest then i wouldn’t be able to argue against it.
Gift is by far the most commonly used word that is comparable, and it is a very close comparison, it makes sense people would base it off that. I’m a soft g person myself, but the one letter change doesn’t hold up very well here. All your examples have an additional letter specifically to change how another letter is pronounced using well established rules. That is not the case here at all.
Pan/pang- the g has a well established rule to change the pronunciation of the a? No it doesn’t lol. Words are not comparable like that in english, this is another terrible argument.
Examples: lead and lead, read and read, tear and tear, bass and bass, wind and wind. Spelled the exact same way and different pronunciations. Trying to prove how gif is pronounced based on the word gift just proves you haven’t thought about this for more than 10 seconds.
There is no grammatical argument for hard g. There is also no grammatical argument for soft g. Once again, g followed by i or e can be either in English. The only thing that should sway this is what the creator intended and straight up told everybody many times.
its “I could not care less” and not “I could care less”. This one drives me nuts
I agree with this statement, but I never notice its wrong until someone points it out. Then my inner grammar teacher has an aneurysm and I go off on a tangent.
It’s so close to being right that you don’t think about it, until you do. Then OCD sets in.
“white chocolate” doesn’t exist. It’s just sugar and a little bit of cocoa butter. It’s edible wax. It’s not chocolate and it doesn’t belong in any assortment of sweets, ever. Cocoa butter is skin moisturizer and that’s it.
The most delicious edible wax I’ve ever had.
It does exist in the way that chocolate ‘solids’ exist as an element of chocolate. A typical chocolate bar consists of both chocolate solids and cocoa butter. It’s still an element of what you’re eating,
So just cuz you eat ‘chocolate’ because you think you only favor the solids, you’re still eating the butter too in what makes chocolate. It’s like drinking milk products and then getting pedantic over people who use butter as a food even though milk contains some the same elements.
But again this is about stupid hills to die on. And you picked an intolerant and ignorant stance so I guess you technically win in this particular topic.
No need for personal attack, this is all in good fun.
A simple one I think, I refuse to call twitter by other names.
I do love, however calling it Xitter where X is pronounced “sh”
Like Xi Jinping. (Shi )
Is it? The voice in my head pronounced zshi when I read it.
Wikipedia says. ʒI: where “ʒ” is the S in pleasure or the g in beige
Which is to say (smoking my pipe like oxford don) I was making a scatological joke.
Shitter
That’s fine, it’s just hard to know without hearing native speakers’ pronunciations and you’ve only read it. Thanks for the reply!
I’ve never actually heard anyone call it X before, unless they were making a joke about the whole thing. Everybody I know still calls it Twitter. Calling it X is just embarrassing.
The medical symbol of the staff with the snake is only supposed to have 1 (one) snake on it. A staff with 1 snake is the Rod of Asclepius (the son of Apollo and Greek demigod of medicine), a staff with 2 snakes is a Caduceus which is carried by Hermes as a messenger or herald.
Physicians get 1 snake. Couriers and heralds get 2 snakes. Any medical professional or organization that uses 2 snakes is wrong and needs to go study the humanities and classics for a bit.
Would two snakes on an ambulance be acceptable? They’re kind of like couriers of the sick and injured.
That’s the only time I think it’s acceptable. Ambulances are kind of a venn diagram of healthcare and couriers, so the 2 snakes on the star of life makes sense.
I don’t care what Big Dictionary has to say about it, “literally” does NOT mean “figuratively.”
If “literally” means “figuratively,” then we literally have no word for “literally.”
YYYY/MM/DD
For me it’s YYYY-MM-DD https://www.iso.org/iso-8601-date-and-time-format.html
Also, there is a special place for those people who keep making up new timestamps
Don’t even get me started on this one…
a couple always means two.
every time anyone says “a couple”, i ask them if they mean two. it’s not pleasant exchange for either of us, but it must be done
Couple -2
Few - 3 or more
Lot - anybody’s guess
Disagree. I’ve always understood it to mean approximately two. Usually 2-3; 4 isn’t outlandish.
Unless that’s the meaning, the expression doesn’t have a reason to exist. So that’s how I decide to interpret it.
Wrong. A couple is two exactly. After the wedding: Oh look at the happy couple. There aren’t 3 or 4 people standing there, 2 people are standing there. A couple.
To couple train carriages together means to attach two carriages together. There are more carriages behind that one, but they were all individually coupled together.
Aw come on, those are two very different meanings of the word in my book. As it happens, the couple of eggs I took out of the fridge aren’t in a romantic relationship.
Look in any English language dictionary. Show me an entry that states a couple is more than two
I‘ll wait.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/couple-few-several-use
Couple is used to refer to two things, but is also often used for a small number greater than two.
by the 1500s, it was also being used in the phrase a couple of to refer to an indefinite but still small number of people or things
Verdict: couple is used of small numbers most of the time, but usually at least two or more.
So yeah, the meaning of “at least two but possibly a bit more than that” has been around for a loooooong time.
Starting a post with “Wrong.” and listing a few items that support your view is… Well it gives me Reddit energy, not a good thing. ;)
Here are some counterexamples that negate it: “I’ll be ready in a couple of minutes”, “it’s a couple of miles away”.
This does not always mean exactly two. I mean, if you just want to yell out “it always means exactly two!” Then that’s on you, but in the English language everyone else in the world uses, it often means two, but can also mean around but not exactly two, depending on the use case.
The word you’re thinking of is “several”.
The most pointless hill I will die on is the whole regardless, irregardless thing.
They mean the same thing, but irregardless is redundant. My friend uses that word purely because he knows it pisses me off.
I can only assume your friend is the one who downvoted you
Also, I say “irregardless” when I want to sound like the mobster from It’s Always Sunny in Philidelphia
No. Some rando found the comments in my profile and are down voting all my comments. Lol I don’t care though. If they get gratification for it I hope they’re happy.
Sorry, friend. That sounds very toxic. I hope they stop soon
I’m sure they will and if they don’t… Eh? It’s not a big deal
To streamers, YouTubers, etc. Your Patreon supporters are called Patrons. Not fucking “Patreons.”
Since I only ever had heard this english word in the specific context of YouTube, I’m not even sure what is difference in prononciation btw the two.
Patreon is a brand name that allows monetization for artist etc.
Patron means supporter.
Yeah but my issue is with how to pronounce it.
Patreon = pay-tree-on
Patron = pay-trun
Trucks should be used for working and not hauling groceries. Get a fucking car or a van. Roads are safer with more crash compatibe vehicles that also weigh less. Large trucks should need a special licence to drive/own Driving should also be taught in school
The toilet paper roll has to be placed so the tear off sheet faces the shitting person, and not the wall.
Fahrenheit is a better measurement for ancient human temperature.
i don’t record or watch vertical videos
Same. Don’t get me wrong, short form content is okay (I prefer long form). But the shit you see on Tick Tock and YouTube Shorts is so ridiculous that I can’t help but reactively close the app out of self preservation…
It all started when someone wanted to fry chicken in Pepto-Bismol…
