It’s been ages since I’ve really done some deal hunting online with how ubiquitious Amazon is I’ve realized I’m not up to date with the current ecosystem for finding trustworthy online storefronts. Do you have any sources/tips for finding good quality products (especially with all the AI slop that exists nowadays)?
You could use Amazon as kind of a browser or search and then go directly to the brand’s web site. Any particular thing you’re looking for?
This is what I do. I sleep better at night knowing I costing them a few cents by only using them as a search engine.
You don’t cost them. You benefit them by giving them all the knowlege about what you want, how you search for it, what details are the most interesting for you etc.
Yep, this. Net positive for Amazon and you don’t even need to give them any of your money. Still better than giving them your money on top of it though, I imagine
While also being bombarded by ads by Amazon on their own website, so they even profit off of you. Or did you think those “Promoted” items in the search listings didn’t bring money into Bezos’ coffers?
Showrooming Amazon. How Ironic. I love it!
In a few cases I saved over 10% by going straight to the manufacturer. Shipping was slower but rarely do I need stuff next day.
This has also saved me on more than one occasion as I’ve tried to find the same “brand” of something I was going to buy on another site, only to find it was actually an Amazon product they were trying to push. Dodged that bullet for sure
I personally look to see if the company has their own storefront. And sometimes it pays off in unexpected ways.
For example I was in the market for a soldering iron. I found a solid Hakko one on Amazon, but I decided to check their site first and, lo and behold, they had the exact same one for sale for the exact same price. BUT I could choose what color I wanted; Amazon only had the standard blue/yellow, whereas they had two other color choices.
On top of that they included an extra goodie of my choosing, which I chose their coffee mug (I forget the other options).So because I took the extra time to look around, I was able to get one in a color I preferred, got an extra item out of it, and cut out the unnecessary middle man. Win-win-win as they say.
Sometimes, though, it’s just not possible. I was in the market for a triple monitor stand as I use a unique configuration (ultrawide as my main, with two regular widescreens side-by-side above it). The only viable stand I found was available either through Amazon or Walmart. They did not sell directly from their site. So I had to choose which devil I wanted to support.
From what I heard it is the same price because amazon doesn’t allow them to sell cheaper anywhere else.
Amazon used to not deliver in my country so we developed our own, with 24h free delivery, blackjack and hookers.
Now that Amazon figured out the custom taxes for us, it is too late as we have our own local alternative.
Go directly to the manufacturer isn’t the bargain hunt, but it’s the best option. Amazon won’t even send you the right product occasionally. Even if you buy it from Amazon ultimately because the manufacturer uses them, they’ll be alerted to the sale.
Buy directly from the seller. Due to most people using Amazon the past decade, created a modern shipping infrastructure. Everyone has similar shipping pricing and timeframes. Amazon doesn’t provide anything special now. Other big box store just use their stores as shipping hubs like edge computing. There’s a lot of same day delivery.
A lot of that is also Amazon, but an individual can only do so much
When Amazon started it was next day delivery, now a lot of stuff is two days.
What are you talking about? Amazon started as an online book store in 1994. They were not doing next day delivery, that’s for sure. Amazon had a big push for “Prime 2 day delivery” for a long time, but from my anecdotal experience it’s more than often longer than two days. Sometimes they offer one or two day shipping, but it’s not the norm.
Reminds me of a thread I saw here a while ago on “What if advertising were illegal?”
I’ve found the best method for reducing my need on Amazon is to just buy less crap. Online shopping is simple because you can get stuff immediately, but I don’t think anybody “needs” 3-4 new products per week.
Aside from that, I try and support local: find local shops that sell items similar to my style, or trust word of mouth for online retailers that are good. At the end of the day, as long as you’re buying good-quality stuff (which oddly seems to spend less on advertisements) it doesn’t really matter where exactly you buy from, as it’s all pretty similar in price / quality.
I just go directly to the company’s website and go from there. Usually it’s the same price, on rare occasions it’s a few dollars more but to me it’s worth it not to do business with Amazon. I’ve passed up on buying things entirely because they were only available on Amazon.
In fact, over the last couple years I’ve been transitioning from buying online to buying from small-business brick and mortar stores. Sure it’s less convenient but it’s also less wasteful, it keeps resources within my local economy and I’m buying a lot less junk that I don’t really need.
I try small brick and mortar as much as possible but the up charges for the identical product can really hurt, like why is the same brand of pet food twice the cost if I drive 10 miles for it vs if I order it online
Because retailers are middle-men by definition. Large online resellers just have much less overhead, so the cut they take for being a middleman is much smaller. They often also have the bargaining power to reduce their cost price with the supplier. You should look for things that are produced in large quantities locally, and find ways to purchase direct from supplier, if you want to save money buying locally rather than spending more to support local business. Buying from independent local retailers is for indirect social and economic benefit. We should all endeavour to do it as much as we can but it’s also very hard to justify when cost differences are large.
Because retailers are middle-men by definition.
Hell, a large amount of local businesses’ stock is probably bought on Amazon Business.
My problem is that so many small businesses in my region are run by shitheads with terrible customer service, or they don’t treat their employees well, or they insult younger people, or they’re straight up broadcasting their politics in their business.
Unlike Amazon and all the other giant tech corporations?
When both sides are dickheads, you go for the one that’s best for you personally which for shopping usually means going for the cheapest depending on your morality stance and how strong it’s compulsion is.
Usually it’s the same price
Notable exception to this would be the Spigen phone case I recently bought. It’s 20.99 on Amazon, but 39.99 on Spigen’s website.
It’s true for a lot of other things, though, Amazon especially here in Canada hasn’t been the cheapest place to buy stuff in quite some time.
For my country there is a price comparison website at geizhals.at which is where I usually start. They also seem to be a thing for Germany, the UK, and Poland. Maybe there are similar services for other countries too?
eBay
Several times I have purchased an item on email only to have it arrive from Amazon. The sellers were using both sites and there was no way to tell from the eBay listings. Big sad.
Is it delivered via Amazon or just in Amazonian packaging? I guess I don’t mind either as much, since I can’t expect a small seller to keep two separate streamlined processes…
i feel like it’s important to note that this is against the ebay seller agreement, and though ebay does nothing about it if you report it after the fact, leaving feedback with a statement like “this seller drop shipped the item via amazon” helps other shoppers.
generally, though, it’s getting easier to tell: higher volume (we’re talking 1k or higher, usually) of feedback with less than ~97% positive feedback, is a good first indication of some kind of reseller/dropshipper.
personally, i started shopping on ebay to avoid amazon, so it’s a supreme annoyance to have something drop-shipped or gift-shipped through them. I get why some sellers do it, but that doesn’t make it right.
This! I use eBay very often
A lot of searching. Then I add good alternatives to a “buy Canadian” list I keep at Github. That makes it a lot easier the next time around.
If it’s a public list, feel free to share it on [email protected] :)
Just did!
Care to share that list? I may not be Canadian, but want to support people dealing with America’s bullshit if I can.
Hey, yeah, definitely.
It’s https://github.com/Visiblink/CanadianRetailers
I just started it when all the tariffy-goodness began, so it’s bound to see additions whenever I (or anyone who wants to add to it) shop for things.
Aliexpress. It’s the same shit.
I have a few specialty storefronts I’ll go to for specific items.
I wouldn’t trust any networking equipment, anything that can send data off your network back home unfortunately.
But yes, I’d say 90+% you can easily get off there. I got a Benchmade bugout knockoff recently, $150 for this tiny knife, $12 on AE. after honing and a drop of oil, beautiful useful knife. The mini griptilian is another great knockoff. Packaging came near identical to the real knife. I open boxes, not fight hand to hand, even though I’m sure it’d cut flesh just as well.
Honest question, not trying to be adversarial. Do you have any sources behind not trusting networking equipment (I’ve seen the claim from others apply to electronics more broadly) from AliExpress? I don’t buy much from Amazon or AliExpress so I’m not directly impacted but I’ve seen that caveat a lot and haven’t seen reasons why.
Why not? A fucking dishwasher will spy on you nowadays, why wouldn’t something that is 1 already connected to the internet and 2 already logs all of your activity?
I don’t specifically, just that everything is phoning home nowadays and stealing data, not interested in entertaining it. Even some us products have backdoors open by default, which sucks. I dont really skimp on network gear, I upgraded to ubiquiti a few years ago and am very happy and trust it.
If I get time to find it I’ll post it but there was a famous study where researchers in the UK looked at a smart thermostat and figured out how many privacy disclaimers you would need to agree to to use it lawfully. It was in the hundreds. There was also those photos of kids on the toilet that were taken by an Amazon robotic vacuum cleaner that got leaked. And police getting called out to a murder in the US that was recorded by Alexa.
There have been a few cases of android TVs having backdoors installed.
I like iherb.com for supplements, tea, olive oil, and castile soap. And whatever else you may find there amongst the strange assortment of things they carry. Other than that, I’ve been going right to manufacturers websites, except for mechanical keyboard stuff, where I search a whole bunch of different specialty vendor sites.
I go rob container ship
It isn’t easy, but it’s worth it. I find I’m calling a lot of local stores lately, because I hate shopping in person, and selections are limited. I find I am spending about 10% more per item on average, but I’m also buying fewer things in general. I’m still shopping at chains, like Microcenter, Staples, Dick’s, and Lowes, but I’m trying to be intentional about going to local or thrift stores first.
I also shop on AliExpress more now, when I need some cheap garbage, but I’m trying to stop that, too.
Same for me. Im just trying to buy less.
aliexpress has most of the same stuff from amazon, just without the sellers nonsensical name slapped on it.
For more important stuff, most brick and mortar shops have an online storefront nowadays.
As someone who needs tall sizes, I long ago gave up on most stores selling anything that fits me. However using their online stores, I’m discovering that many still can have tall sizes, if I’m patient enough
Idk, Aliexpress has plenty of the nonsensical names still. At least on the product listing, often the name isn’t bothered to be put on the product itself. However, for American’s Trump is wanting to handicap the de minimis for China.
