Maybe part of the solution should be to change how we talk about products or make recommendations. Such as describing what to look for in a product instead of the product itself.

Make the bots more obvious

https://youtube.com/watch?v=En6gbF34Hfc

Futurama - Thompson’s teeth, the only teeth strong enough to eat other teeth

I think what we need is an automated solution which flags groups of accounts for suspect vote manipulation.

We appreciate the work you put into this, and I imagine it took some time to put together. That will only get harder to do if someone / some entity puts money into it.

Closest I can think of might be the [email protected] [email protected] communities

But I didn’t know Mbin could federate with Lemmy. But I’m sure Lemmy/Mbin probably won’t federate with Pixelfed, or Peertube.

I think all of these are "don’t federate well currently ", but it’s a goal to improve federation over time

For example, Lemmy is federating with Mastodon better than when I first joined. It’s also possible to subscribe to peertube channels from Lemmy, but it’s a bit buggy.

Edit: for a better method, see this comment below

You would need to navigate to that instance on desktop

For example, as others have said:

• https://lemmy.ca/communities
• https://lemmy.world/communities
• https://mander.xyz/communities
• https://slrpnk.net/communities

You can’t see it from your instance because not every community will be pulled. A community only starts federating to your instance after someone on your instance subscribes to it

Yup, cats can’t taste sweetness for that reason, while birds don’t have receptors for spice and can eat chillies easily.

That’s just the taste buds themselves, additionally:

• A large part of our taste response is tied to smell. This is why food tastes different when sick. It’s also hard to try yourself because you can “smell” through the back of your throat too
• the air around us will affect taste perception, which is why some foods taste better or worse on a plane
• genetic factors exist, such as how some people taste cilantro/parsley as soapy

Oh so firefish.io was related, that’s unfortunate

No problem, hope you find what you’re looking for :)

For what it’s worth, admins/employees on Reddit (or any other website) can also see upvote records.

Should the Lemmy devs create a way to make the votes anonymous?

I’m not sure if there is a good way to have the content federate anonymously. Even if there was, it would be a vector for spam.

Vote manipulation is a growing problem on Reddit. It’s only getting worse with all the AI spam bots and they don’t have an incentive to stop it. Why trust a review on Reddit if bots are upvoting/downvoting on behalf of a company, or worse what happens in news communities when a well funded group wants to change perspectives.

Admins need to know if the votes/likes coming in are legitimate, else they should block them. It’s too easy to abuse anonymous votes to affect how content is ranked.

I left a long comment in the other thread which I will link in a moment, but I think either

1. We keep the current setup, but we put in more effort to make new users aware that vote records are visible to admins/mods
2. We make it public for everyone and take steps to deal with the new issues that it could cause

Other comment on the benefits/issues: https://lemmy.ca/comment/11097046

Is there any community you’re looking for? Chances are that there are bots already

https://lemmit.online/communities

I love [email protected]

There are a few other animal communities too, like [email protected]

As a follow-up, what should the banner be?

I vote no banner at all. It’s more satisfying than having some kind of image there.

Exactly!

I made a point to post here before trying a post there. Often what I’ve found is that while Reddit has a bigger userbase, the level of helpfulness is about the same. Reddit posts got more comments in total, but the number of helpful comments was about the same if not lower.

I’ll have to start posting here when I look something up on Reddit as well

It is a good question, I had the same when I first heard about it.

I think lots of people keep both installed:

• the default one is good for managing server related things
• this one is good for daily use, especially for any other users you might have

What I liked:

• feels much faster and smoother
• UI is nice and clean
• download manager works nicely, as another user mentioned. You don’t need to open a separate app to play the files

Also consider joining the other community if you haven’t already

[email protected]

At some point I think I’m going to write a post about nice behaviour here. I have to think about it some more… And this is a diverse place anyways, other people might like different things.

I’d read something like that :)

Sometimes we also don’t think about how we could be doing something better. Another thing that comes to mind, which I sometimes forget, is upvoting the post that you are commenting on. Usually if I’m commenting, I want more people to see and join the discussion, but I forget to upvote before leaving the tab

That’s a good point, I try to post a few relevant pieces each time and add context in the post body. Still, not all posts are good and so I’m open to people pointing it out when it happens :)

A lot of my RSS feed is for healthcare content or local news, and those communities don’t have much content otherwise. I’ll see about trying to get more of a discussion going for each of the posts I share

I’ve heard criticism of the desktop app before as well, maybe they’ll finally rework it?