If your post would end up like that in a day, please just refrain from posting it, in any community, or use a throwaway. It is very destructive, especially since all and every comment also becomes unreachable with it.
Sincerely,
With all due respect,
Your Lemmy neighbor
I’m fed up with this shit, and I know it well that it’s not just me.
Do not bomb your communities, please.
I promise, I’ll end up setting up a public instance that does not obey any deletions because of these madlads. Seriously, where is pushshift for lemmy?
When you devote 30 minutes to a detailed answer about something you’re passionate about and refresh to find “permanently deleted”
Or if you’re like me and see a thread, be all like “Oh, that could be interesting, I’ll check that later,” and put your phone away for a few hours, and then, when you finally get to check the thread again, and refresh it just to be up to date, you see it’s been permanently deleted…
Firmly agree. If I notice a trend on posts being deleted after posting, I just block the user so I don’t see the new posts. Nothing is more annoying then putting a bunch of effort responding to someones question, especially tech related, just for them to nuke the post later on so it was all for nothing.
Thankfully though, it’s few and far between on the communities that I usually look at, so I have not noticed it a whole lot.
just a quick question, any reason on why they do it…? I find it counterintuitive
I think it’s trying to minimize their digital footprint/reduce the amount of LLMs that will ingest their post.
That’s surely one reason. Another would be collecting data to create profiles to make advertising and political manipulation even more effective.
I deleted a post because it was the dumbest shit ever written by humanity. I was drunk at the time…
Learning from reddit and social media in general, your posts may become free material for someone’s LLM to make money of off, or a feed to profile you and do who knows what with that information. That may be one of the reasons.
I get the profiling concern, but if someone’s that worried about a post being linked to them, they should use a throwaway anyway. I’m sure that someone out there is archiving everything posted anyway, and if they don’t, it’ll be tied to them there.
Anyone deleting for privacy reasons doesn’t understand federation. If someone was looking to train an LLM, they’d just set up their own instance, set it to auto-subscribe to whatever content they wanted to aggregate, and then refuse to honor deletion requests when they rolled in.
Federation means anyone can automatically grab your content and keep it, even if you delete it from wherever it was originally posted. Deleting it from that original instance simply sends a delete request to other instances. But it’s up to those other instances to actually follow through with honoring the request. If they don’t want to delete it, there’s nothing the other instances can do to force them to do so.
Heh. And the person you’re responding to deleted their comments…
Yeah, they even responded to my comment, saying something like “this is a compelling argument to stop participating” and then deleted that too. It got a solid chuckle from me.
hope this gets deleted soon
You’re not alone in this. This is a carryover from reddit, and it’s maddening. But, thus is life, I guess.
I promise, I’ll end up setting up a public instance that does not obey any deletions because of these madlads. Seriously, where is pushshift for lemmy?
Yeah this is a really good idea; I’ve been wanting to do it but haven’t had the time to configure everything. You’d need to hide which instance it actually is though, or other instances would just defederate from it. Maybe set up a website where you can plop in a post/comment URL and see the deleted contents.
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A lot of people make posts and then delete the post and/or their entire account, nuking large threads leaving them with the title “Permanently Deleted.”
Lemmy will never be the resource reddit became if everyone just deletes their info.
And maybe that’s okay, isn’t it?
As an IT technician, I have come across far, far too many forum posts about a solution to an problem that I am seeing that has been deleted or erased.
My solution to this is:
- Use a UI or app that badges or otherwise indicates new accounts (or accounts newer than 30 days or so)
- Refuse to interact with those accounts in the various “ask” communities. Maybe even throw it a downvote if it seems like it’s coming from the same person that keeps doing this.
- If no one engages with them, maybe they’ll knock this “hit it and quit it” bullshit off.
Sorry legit new accounts, but it’s these selfish assholes that are ruining things for you and everyone else.
there is always bad actors that get everyone else in trouble or put them all in a bad light… :(
I had a 2 year old account, then lemm.ee shut down and I’m a baby again :(
You sound like a fed to me… 🤨
/s (unless…?)
I’m fed up with this shit, and I know it well that it’s not just me.
Yup, extremely annoying
So gosh darn tired of that.
To those deleters, I want to say: if you don’t like the answers that you’re getting, tough shit buddy. Learn from your mistake. Leave the post up for other people to also learn.
The solution to this is changing the software to give the communities more control over the content, being able to restore the comment, maybe without the name so the persons username keeps unaffected while still keeping the content intact.
This needs to go into the lemmy software issue tracker to be considered. That is the way to change things.
The problem is that it’s hard to negotiate that against the reason a lot of people left Reddit: losing control over their own content. People want to have the ability to delete their stuff.
The only thing that I think should be different is that deleting a post or comment shouldn’t delete everything under it. Comments from other users should remain accessible when the parent is deleted. I’ve had a lot of good discussions on Lemmy that I can’t access anymore because someone chose to delete their content above it, which also deleted mine. It’s still losing control over my own content, but in the opposite way from Reddit.
yes, fully agree. please add this to the issue tracker! :) thank you
Sure but then I get someone making an unnecessarily critical and destructive comment and my post turns to shit and nobody participates anymore because they’re too fixated on the comment and start down voting the thread instead.
I recently made a post on AskLemmy and the third guy commenting just started casting doubts on what I shared even though it was an anecdote and it’s something that happens where I live. My story’s sole purpose was to generate interest and get people commenting. But nooo, I can’t do that because what happened is inconceivable in their country so it must be impossible everywhere else! Lemmy always knows best. Fuck it, nuked.
If it makes you feel any better, I’ve had this experience too, and also since I turned on the feature in Voyager to track votes per user, you’re at a +7 with me
Nice, you’re +6 on mine. :) Good to see you 'round!
Hello Lemmy, I have a question:
Maybe make lemmy a more welcoming place to post, hm?
The problem never is you…
