Fairly different hivemind here, I think. Still annoying at times but for different reasons. Individuals seem more likely to engage on a topic though. Maybe without instantly thinking you’re their enemy.
It took me a bit to understand this. I was so used to expecting negativity that i thought non-negative comments were bring sarcastic.
“hivemind” is such a stupid bullshit concept. the only people who use it just don’t like being disagreed with. if you use the term “hivemind” you might as well be a reddit conservative
Congrats on being the exception to the latter part of my comment.
Congrats on being an exception to the penulatimate part of your comment then? My point is that “hivemind” is already a thought-terminating cliche. If you’re using it while seeking in-depth conversation, what do you expect to get? Hence me saying you “might as well be” such as such – which is very different from treating you like an enemy. Seems like you gave a bit of that hostility back though! And why? Because this conversation revolves around a thought-terminating cliche like “hivemind”.
It feels the same as when I originally got on Reddit 15 years ago. Not so much the culture of Reddit 10 years later, and definitely not at all like Reddit is now.
I feel the same way about it. There was a time when reddit, at least large parts of it, was a fairly decent place. That gradually changed, for a lot of different reason, until it became the mess it is now.
Lemmy feels more like the early reddit, before everyone gave up on real interactions and basic civility. We have our own problems, but the decentralized model tends to work in our favor instead of against us. Any given community, or even site, can still go to hell if the participants want it to and the moderators/admins allow it. The difference is that other communities and sites are not automatically dragged down along with it.
I think it also helps that a lot of the folks here have seen things go wrong, on reddit and elsewhere, and want to do better. There is a world of difference between skepticism and cynicism. So far, we seem to be mostly coming down on the right side of that. It’s amazing how much better things are when you treat others as human beings and don’t assume that nothing really matters.
half of the site has been overrun by russian bots, now its israeli, and Palintir bots.
Lemmy tends to not take every sentence like an insult.
for example: On a r/PCMR post asking about GPU shopping I said “ive run pretty graphics intensive games and some LLM/Image generators too. Mine has been perfect, I don’t think OP should be super concerned [about only 10gb vram]”
I got -20 votes and a reply “Wow you should tell to AI companies that they don’t need 30gb in their graphics cards!”like OP was literally just a gamer 😭
although,
Lemmy HATES memes with censors in it. And leftist infighting is insufferable.I’ve noticed there is a LOT of hate for AI here.
It’s not that black & White, AI can be good for some things
Similar but distinct. Much further left for one thing.
Also, the average level of tech knowledge here is off the charts. Like I feel like a caveman and in my office I’m the one people to go through for help. Never felt like that on Reddit.
fellow in-between, how can we describe ourselves? the one that everyone comes to for tech support (eg we know how to ctrl+v) but around actual programmers we just stare blankly.
I tried to create an account on db0 and the application wanted to know my favortie OSS creator or something, I just told them i have no idea what that means but I’ll be nice. if we had a word for what we are, I’d have used that!
We also asked for your favourite anarchist or pirate. We’re not just techie :)
In case you didn’t know, OSS stands for Open Source Software, like Firefox, Linux, Lemmy etc ;)
It’s a child of Reddit.
It grew up learning some good habits and some bad, it continues traditions it didn’t start, but it runs it’s own household with it’s own traditions, and is building upon the values it’s learned.
Lemmy is how Reddit was in 2010. Size is what degrades the experience, the larger Reddit got the more shit it became. I am hopeful that federation will be the secret sauce that saves Lemmy from the same enshittification as it grows.
I’d argue earlier. Before the largest digg exodus. 2010 already had custom subs and supported some niche comms
Less alt right stuff here on Lemmy than there was back in 2010, though. Early Reddit was full of libertarian ideals and free speech absolutists, before the consequences of those positions became apparent in the later half of that decade.
It was around Trump’s first presidency that half of Reddit realized the other half of Reddit wasn’t just memeing, the alt right went to their safe spaces, and Reddit began purging itself of all that was not marketable (good and bad).
The paid agents probably don’t consider the Lemmy communities big enough to invest time polluting them most of the time, it’s just not cost-effective.
Reddit wasn’t big enough back then either, it was only since Spez took over after Ellen Pao that you started to see more corporatization/astroturfing of the platform.
A website full of young 20-something gamers and tech bros just tends to skew a certain way politically.
As the Buddhist monks say : “poverty is our shield”
Generally the same culture, but skewed towards more tech savvy types and online-centric culture groups. It’s a lot smaller than reddit, which helps a lot with the quality of interactions, but I think if it grew enough it would end up very close to reddit culture.
So far, it’s definitely less toxic
Fewer conservative dickheads, less crypto-bro bullshit, fewer incels and the like
Someone made a joke that didn’t land well. I called them out for it, because it looked like they were being a misogynistic prick. We had a back and forth, they edited their comment to make it clear that it was a joke, not a bigoted belief, we had a good conversation and even a few others joined in with a swell of positivity
On reddit it would have probably escalated into something unpleasant, but here everyone actually had a laugh about it and we all noted the difference in positivity
There are still creepy children posting stuff in places like asklemmynsfw and annoying porn bots, but it’s still better overall by a lot
It’s going to be interesting to see what Digg becomes
We have mods that use the banhammer as a disagree button, just like reddit. But we are also openly hostile to nazis unlike reddit.
I didn’t use Reddit towards the end so I might be a bit wrong but overall it feels a lot more likely that you will bump into the same people on here. Its nice that you don’t really get your karma farming GallowBoob types.
The misogyny on here seems more intense though even if the mods and admins are more on top of it.
seems alot less here, unless your trying to go to female communities to tell them otherwise.
Most of it tends to be where a woman will mention experiencing something disproportionately, as a woman, and there will always be a man in the replies saying that men experience it to.
There is a recurring thing on poor consent towards women’s bodies too, particularly whenever SWers are mentioned. That’s more of a carry over from Reddit though.
Lemmy’s far less toxic than Reddit and actually does something about bigots/hateful people too
also you don’t get banned just for saying Luigi lol
Here I am , fuck Reddit
Belly full of ramen, couldn’t give a fuck about Reddit
I like you
Absolutely the same material, just less density so instead of the instant “fuck you” here we can see an additional “what do you mean by that?!” stage. And less people with ban ability.
Eventually, when our numbers will grow significantly, you won’t be able to distinguish this place from Reddit.
Eventually, when our numbers will grow significantly, you won’t be able to distinguish this place from Reddit.
You will always be able to distinguish this place from Reddit. There are no ads or “sponsored” posts here on Lemmy.
Reddit was shitty, just because it’s people and people suck. But I hung around because…I’m a masochist I guess. I left because of the 3rd party shit. I’ve never gone back. As that great '80s pop band said,“People are people.”
For me it is not the same because shittiness of the head board also counts a lot in the equation. Because of the federation you have some opportunity to find variations that help you being more comfortable.
No ads, no tracking, that’s exclusive to Lemmy and I would like it for that alone.
People (aka, in Reddit language, ‘content’ or ‘the stuff we write but they earn money with’) are the same everywhere, I mean assholes and nice guys are not exclusive to any platform. There are just a lot less of us here than on Reddit. So, there is a lot less noise.
Plus we have decent filtering tools, so we can even have less noise ;)
Lemmy is tiny compared to Reddit and the niche communities I’m interested in are not very active but I don’t care. I will keep posting here and not on Reddit as long as they won’t change what I disagree with (which won’t happen).
I’ve seen less whining about downvotes, “you can’t say x on y subreddit” meta comments, and general persecution fetish stuff. Probably just due to less people, but it’s still a relief not to have to see it constantly.
Yes, we have way higher percentage of neurodivergent people here and I love it.
I think it’s plausible that there are more people here that are neurodivergent. However, even more significant than this is a culture where neurodivergent people are more visible. At Reddit, calling someone or something autistic would usually be an insult. Here, it’s more often that we are recognising each other and existing in solidarity.
