I think there should be a rule at this point an IP can only get one reboot every 15 years and it has to be won in a director competition because this is ridiculous! It feels surreal how many reboots and remakes they make and they are usually always for the worst.
So are you tired of them to?
I learned a while ago that I don’t have to go see things that don’t interest me. Once you accept this, a lot of the media made that you don’t like will bother you less.
Can’t complain on the internet with a thought process like that, though. /s
Yes but you must acknowledge the crowding out effect. There are only so many screens. If so many are taken up by the never-ending sequel/adaptation/remake churn, that leaves precious little chance to actually see something original. If you’re a movie buff, I could see how that could become frustrating, even if you never watch any of the content you don’t like.
Most of the movies worth watching don’t play in theaters.
It can still be difficult to find good things because there is a sea of shit and the average person is a moron so their recommendations can’t be taken seriously.
This, plus I find it way easier to not care now that I don’t watch television anymore and have a good adblocker and so never see advertisements for movies.
Movies are so much better if you never see a trailer, and i die on that hill
I heard that the contract for fantastic 4’s IP meant the movie company had to make a movie with it at least every 10 years or they’d lose it. They subcontracted it to 20th century and because nobody gave a flaming shit about it, they put out a shitty f4 movie every 10 years.
Disney now owns the company that they contracted the rights to so they had a hand in the most recent one, but not the others afaik.
This is how Sony’s Spider-Man rights work (worked?). It’s why we’ve had 3 reboots in the last 20 years and why Marvel had to contract the rights back from Sony to get him in the Avengers movies.
The latest one was easily the worst one yet.
Oof. Gotta disagree with that. I hated the first one with Galactus and Silver Surfer. And I hated both previous versions of Doctor Doom. Still might hate this one, too, of course.
I thought this one set up the new cast without fucking anything important up, which is better than the other movies. It has a cool aesthetic.
I didn’t walk out needing more of them, though. I think some of the high points of the infinity saga are just a tough act to follow. Even movies that I really enjoyed like Thunderbolts just don’t have the same punch as Winter Soldier or Civil War.
Bad plot, extremely bad pacing, bad writing, bad acting, bad and boring fight scenes, bad villains. Galactus’s big fight was literally just… him walking through a city… The aesthetic was bizarre and did not feel authentic. Truly zero redeeming qualities.
I want the rule that any IP rebooted twice in a 20 year period (the age music and cars are both considered “classics” and for cars emissions tests don’t apply), the IP and any derivative works immediately becomes public domain.
just revert all copyright back to: 14 years, plus the ability to renew it one time, for 14 more
No, number of shits given 0.0. You know you don’t have to watch them right ? They make them becase they work
Thanks sherlock, I use to think I had to watch each one. Glad you just let me know that information.
Only around 35% of reboots are hits. The rest are flops.
Excellent response 😂😂😂 what an obnoxious comment “YoU dOnT hAvE tO wAtCh ThEm”
And what does it mean “they make them cause they work”? Did the Snow White remake work? Or Lady and the Tramp? Or Dumbo? No, they flopped, and people hated them.
I hate these remakes and reboots. They’re awful. Sad that so much money and energy gets poured into stories that don’t need to be retold. The motivation is purely profit, and it shows.
You don’t though. My response was about the same, the lazy remakes of recent years mildly annoy me because that money could go elsewhere but other than that, meh.
Kind of? I was tired, but then I stopped caring and just accepted most hollywood shit as garbage for morons.
The oldest and most natural form of human storytelling is to take stories people are already familiar with and extend them or retell them in new ways… and copyright broke that form of storytelling, but we still have a thirst for it. So we get entertainment companies buying the right to exploit that thirst, for sums that make it too risky to entrust the outcome to actual artists.
I got tired of the movie industry in general. Just stopped going to the cinema and/or buying Blu-rays.
yeah it gets a bit frustrating when i would like to see more invested into new stories (not saying this never happens, it does! i just mean…even more lol). i do think its possible for remakes to be good (or even great!) so i try to keep an open mind about them but imo an ideal remake/reboot needs to have a strong vision and forge its own identity, nod to the original but also very much do its own thing. tricky balance and maybe its just that theres rarely enough time/money/patience/risktaking given to support good, fresh writing :/
Depends. There are good reboots occasionally, e.g. Dune.
But most, primarily Disney IP stretching and recycling is usually not worth watching. Regardless if it a “real life version” of a classic animation or the twentieth Star Wars movie or series.
I wouldn’t really count dune as a reboot. The original dune was a complete mess and the technology wasn’t really there and no one gave enough of a shit. It’s not like a good movie was remade because they wanted to grab some cash.
I’m tired of people complaining about remakes and reboots. Original movies are released every week. If you care enough to complain, you should care enough to keep track of what movies are coming out and not rely on marketing to tell you what to see. Nobody is making you see remakes and reboots. Millions of people are seeing them so clearly, they are appealing to millions of people. If people would stop seeing them, Hollywood would stop making them.
It is baffling to me what gets remade over and over again… I guess someone is making money off the Peter Pan and Robin Hood remakes, and the Alice in wonderland… then there is the Christmas Carol remakes.
I am tired of them, pre pandemic there were original movies during the summer and Xmas movie seasons, now there is nothing but remakes, in those seasons but I am pretty much Done with going to movie theaters though, so I don’t really GAF about remakes.
Maybe we need to get away from 200m budgets. Some of the best stuff I’ve seen in the last decade has been smaller budget affairs.
Idk…they were still doing this shit plenty pre-pandemic. Disney is notorious for it and it has bothered me to no end. I refuse to watch any of their continual releases of abominations of older great films.
Went to through the entire effort of making an arr pirate ship only to realize there is jack to watch, and I would rather just spend $12 to see a movie in theater once a year, since that’s about all I ever see something new worth watching.
As usual the most useful thing that has come out of it is just getting easy access to old and foreign media which otherwise impossible to access online anyway, so now my career of sailing the high seas turned into yet another media archive collection.
The real crime here is people paying cash money to see this slop in theater. I mean I guess $12-15 is not that much, but why not use that for a different movie or even a better form of entertainment? I feel like people settle for mediocre value way too much, or find it valuable enough despite some genuinely excellent alternatives to choose from.
I feel like part of this is cultural, part is economic, and part is just statistics.
Culturally, it feels like everyone is more fatigued and stressed out. And when you feel that way, you want things that are familiar and comfortable. So if you want to go out to see a movie, you want to see something you know is going to make you feel good. Hence, you will choose Kung Fu Panda 4 rather than a psychological thriller directed by and starring no one you’ve ever heard of. Kung Fu Panda 4 might not be good, but you at least got some good feelings seeing some characters you are familiar with interact on-screen.
Economically, theatres are struggling. After all, why go to the movies when you can just watch a movie on netflix without putting on pants? Small, independent theatres are combatting this by diversifying their offerings and making the theatre experience more community-focused. They are hosting live shows, open mics, and films for niche comminities, and include time for social mixing around the theatre before and after. But large corporate theatres which are designed exclusively to churn people through a movie-watching assembly line, which have binding contracts with major movie studios, have to make blockbuster movies happen. So they do this by appealing to the lowest common denominator. Kung Fu Panda 4 might not be the biggest in terms of ticket sales, but it is a much safer bet than the aformentioned psychological thriller. So large corporate theatres pressure the large corporate movie makers to make what they are comfortable selling.
Finally, there is pure statistics. Again, netflix. You’ve rallied. You’ve remembered there is more to life than sitting on the couch. You’re gonna put on pants, goddammit! So what are you gonna do now, with an untempered spirit, the whole world in front of you, and a fully-clothed ass?
I dunno, fucking take a ballet class or something. Learn a martial art. Play tag with strangers in the park - or in a corporate office (they don’t like this). Take pictures of the moon through a telescope. Get slapped in the face by a sexy stranger in a dance club. Slap a sexy stranger in the dance club (I bet they liked it). Go find other pants to wear on other days of the week! So many options!!!
So if you are going to break free of your screen, put on pants, and go outside - why would you pay money to go right back inside and stare at a different screen? The answer is obvious - the modal person who watches movies in movie theatres is very boring, and Kung Fu Panda 4 is what they want to watch. Of course, there are plenty of not-boring people who go to the movies - but they attend far less frequently, and are less predictable in their tastes. Hence, the industry caters to people who see watching corporate movies as something worthy of putting on pants for - boring people.
Yes.
But still, there are also a ton of original IPs popping up everywhere. They don’t get as much coverage though, 'cause reboots of super popular IPs usually get more online attention.
You know you don’t have to watch them. They’re only being released because people watch them.
Ya but they’re gonna keep happening until it becomes financially riskier to do a reboot than a new IP. Reboots will have to consistently flop hard.
