Well that’s the worst headline I have read in a while
The fact that there’s shares to be had for denying care is crazy. They know denying care is their business! Meaning that the money they didn’t spend on your care doesn’t go back into the pot for everyone in your group, they are pocketing some of the money whenever they deny someone. That’s it. They don’t help anyone but themselves. There should be a requirement that insurance companies publicly announce how much money they made from denying care
Literally and with no exaggeration, death panels. You know, the ones Republicans were yelling about a few years ago. Those exact fucking ones.
Those same ones who screamed about fema prisons… At some point, we’ll catch on that these conspiracy theories are actual plans…
The question is: which came first? The conspiracy theory, or the plan? It could go either way with the party of family values.
Ah, see, there’s your problem: you’re using a slight mistranslation. A common mistake. They were never the party of “Family Values”. They’re the party of “Family Valuations”. They exist to find a way to put a number on every family, either “amount of money we can squeeze out of them” or “amount of money we can make by destroying them”, and they get bonuses from their corpocratic upstream if they can manage both at the same time.
Every accusation is a confession, right? That’s how conservatives work. They’re unimaginative people with poor empathy. They think about what they would do and assume that’s what everyone else would do, too. They are trash. Failures. Disappointments.
Failures in every way except for gaining power and wealth. A few of them anyway. The sad reality is that throughout history being ruthless always paid off to a large extent.
Some of the leadership is getting a lot of wealth, true. The majority seem to be losing more. Loss of government programs (eg: Medicare). Return of preventable diseases (eg: measles). Pollution and climate change.
I was referring to those at the top. Most of them will be giant failures in life. But the ones that ‘succeed’ sadly will have more money than God.
These don’t count because they’re just software and the designers can feign complete innocence because of the black-box nature of AI decision-making.
There are reasons they want AI in charge of so many things. It’s not because they think AI can do a better job.
And also, AI makes pictures of Trump riding tanks and fist-bumping Jesus so it has to be perfect and awesome, right?
More than that: fully automated death panels.
Evangelical Christianity. They have always claimed that “absolute evil” exists. They have won the philosophical debate, by demonstrating the Platonic form of evil.
As I get older and need the healthcare system more, I have had this realization that except for cosmetic surgery no one uses healthcare that they don’t need. Like, no one is out there trying to scam their insurance company out of a free colonoscopy. They get that procedure because they don’t want to die. Rejecting claims should be illegal. The goal of the healthcare system should be to treat people. Insurance is the wrong paradigm to manage healthcare because implicitly it’s built around rationing resources.
We don’t do this with food, and yet healthcare is a basic need. What do we do as a society to meet our food needs? We scale up. We plant megatons of crops. We build new technologies to be able to produce more. Why with healthcare do we not do the same? Med schools should accept more than 2% of applicants. The number of doctors in the US is kept artificially low. Also, let people interested in medicine attend abbreviated university programs. Skip the 4 year bachelors and get your med school degree directly in 5-6 years like they do in the UK. Redirect all the overhead and money spent on insurance to building hospitals and hiring doctors.
The goal of the healthcare system should be to treat people.
The goal of a good healthcare system is to treat people. The goal of ours is to treat the rich to another yacht. Healthcare providers bill far above cost for profit, knowing that either the insurance or the patient will have no choice but to eat the cost. Insurance providers use high healthcare costs to justify high policy prices and then do unethical shit to avoid paying out.
The hospitals make money. The insurance company makes money. The shareholders and corporate owners make money. The people needing healthcare get screwed.
The system is, unfortunately, working as intended for those who benefit from it being the way it is.
Med schools should accept more than 2% of applicants.
The problem is a lack of residencies, and there’s been lobbying to keep the number of residencies low, to keep doctor wages high.
Also true and indefensible.
Rejecting claims does have some legitimate purposes.
Invalid ID numbers, people aren’t actually a customer of the insurance company, unreadable data, and actual medical fraud to name a few.
Denials should trigger a government review that the insurance company must justify to a neutral 3rd party that has a medical degree
Cystic acne treatment is frequently covered by insurance and the same treatment is desirable to those that suffer from normal acne. Emotional support animals required doctors notes and were desirable for free admittance on planes. Ozempic as a weight loss drug. Topical steroid treatments for treating inflammation. Glasses to see better than 20/20.
There are all kinds of medical treatments (relatively) healthy people would want if they were affordable and knew they existed.
Perhaps so, but it should be up to a medical professional (doctor) whether or not those treatments are appropriate for the patient. Not for-profit companies run by sociopathic executives. (Although in this case we are talking about state-run Medicare using private companies’ AI to make the determination.)
Well I’m sure it’ll be all fair and definitely not
DENIED
DENIED
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DENIED CHACHING
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CHACHINGOh no, that’ll deffo not happen. No way!!!
Going to be weird when they let Luigi Mangione out and the head of CMS immediately unalives.
We can say die.
We can, but it’s getting deeper than that. Algorithmic censorship is leading to changes in the real world English language.
Die
Unalive
I’m
doingdownvoting mypartpostDie, suicide, rape, fuck, shit…
Would work better if there were only one
-dies-
No no, it doesn’t say Die Bart Die. It’s french, for The Bart The!
It’s not french it’s German!
This is just wealth transfer to keep another AI company afloat. Most of them live and die on investor cash, and never turn a profit.
Given the answers we know they want this should be a pretty profitable business.
print “denied”
Done, and my entire company infastructure is a raspberry pi.
So, reject everything and let appeals sort it out.
We got you fam.
And who knows how long that’ll take. While we’re waiting to see if your pain is considered valid enough to warrant relief, here’s a wooden spoon to bite down on.
The wooden spoon is $800.
Per bite.
I’m a feeling a hungary for summa those Italian meat balls delivered at 1200fps…
AI companies going to start generating fake claims and denying them for rewards, I guarantee it.
That’s the best possible outcome.
The more likely outcome is a lot of people are going to die or suffer needlessly.
In the radio business they call that “payola”, and it is very much illegal.
so no healthcare for anyone anymore? just insurance companies paying themselves now.
I fucking hate the future, man.
This is why I’m so thankful for mortality and chose not to have children. Please, universe, let reincarnation not be a thing.
Afraid it is. But you will never be allowed to understand.
Surprise! You’re dead!
Guess what? It never ends! Hahaha!
So basically the opposite of what Obama or Biden did as usual https://arstechnica.com/health/2024/11/biden-proposes-guardrails-on-health-care-ai-upping-weight-loss-drug-access/
This is the point. They want to erase any legacy either of them left. Trump is a petty little asshole who is still mad that Obama made fun of him once.
Officials assert that the AI tools will only be used to judge claims for about a dozen different types of procedures it deems to be wasteful and providing little benefit, including steroid shots to relieve pain, per the NYT.
Yeah cause people on medicare aren’t likely to need steroid shots for things like joint pain or anything. Anyone 65 and older should start saving their money now to pay for their steroid shots that are going to start costing them a couple hundred bucks a pop.
As someone who lives with constant pain, calling pain relief of any kind “wasteful” enrages me. See if pain relief has “little benefit” when im done with you, mufucka
If payments out of pocket were reasonable maybe we are charged like a hundred times what everybody elsein the world pays.
Investors like private equity have taken over Health Care and are extracting the life savings of baby boomers for medical care that used to cost a reasonable amount of money.
I’ve wondered this for a while: Insurance is a contractual obligation on the insurer’s part, right? What’s stopping me from just suing them for breach of contract rather than going through their appeals process if they illegally deny my claim?
Probably some terms and conditions you signed as part of the contract
What’s stopping me from just suing them for breach of contract rather than going through their appeals process if they illegally deny my claim?
The cost of a lawyer that can hope to match theirs. They don’t care if it loses them money as long as it deters others from trying the same.
What’s stopping me from just suing them for breach of contract rather than going through their appeals process if they illegally deny my claim?
Medicaid is a government provision that has no contract that underpins it. With something like United Healthcare, there is a bargained for exchange of mutual consideration (you give $ and UHC provides insurance subject to all the terms and conditions in the contract).
That is not something in Medicaid because Medicaid isn’t getting anything in exchange for its health coverage. The government can put whatever restrictions on it that it wants. The benefit comes from the government having one more contribution to the ecconomic system. However, that is too attenuated of a benefit to say that there was a bargained-for exchange.
I guess “death panels” are fine if they are machines?
They’re fine if they make money for the right billionaires.
Death panels always existed they just wanted them to be employees at a for-profit.
It’s the lack of profit that scares them I guess.
Here’s your head of Medicare.
Good Ol’ Doctor Oz.
Big profile you should be able to track him down easy in the wee hours of the morning to ask some questions as any good citizen of someone representing their interests.
I’m still incapable of fully accepting that’s real.
ok, as a non american, that’s not a real government site, right? this is a good joke?
Trump likes to appoint people he sees on TV.
