I’m schizophrenia and autism. I am a convicted sex offender and am being strongly told I must take the testosterone block medication andracur. Do you think I should be able to refuse.
I’m schizophrenia and autism. I am a convicted sex offender and am being strongly told I must take the testosterone block medication andracur. Do you think I should be able to refuse.
Well do you want to go back to prison?
“Chemical castration” is a way more loaded phrase than “testosterone blocker.”
There’s a fucking bunch of people on Lemmy who would probably pay to get test blockers. Most likely trans girls and femboys, but trans girls want also to have estrogen. I’ve even seen a completely cis man ask about testosterone blockers because they may help with male pattern baldness. So he was sitting on the fence about test blockers because he wanted the chance to keep his hair a bit longer. The negatives he was told was a somewhat muted libido, but it doesn’t completely go away.
You’re considering the same choice as his, but he was willing to give away of his horniness just to preserve hair, and you won’t do it to keep yourself from being beaten as a nonce in prison?
Cmon man. It’s not actual castration, it won’t change who you are, but when you get horny (which won’t happen as often), the lust will be easier to control. And seeing that you’re saying you’re a sex offender pedophile, that’s probably a good thing.
Sexuality urges aren’t like a limb. You won’t notice they’re gone. It’s not like you’ll be emotionally horny but unable to perform with a limp dick. No, you won’t have the horniness in the first place. And you won’t look at things which used to make you horny (and by God keep it to yourself whatever it is) and go all depressed thinking those good looking xyz used to make me horny. You just won’t notice it as much.
Or so I assume.
Like I’m comparing how horny I was ~23-24 years ago to how horny I am now. Eyes would just be drawn to asses and butts everywhere. Now don’t get me wrong I appreciate a beautiful woman walking by, but I’m not drooling after every single female.
I never did anything criminal but I definitely did some silly stuff because of show horny I was. And if it had landed me in that sort of trouble, I’d definitely rather listen to the doctors than get shanked in prison.
You’ll be traumatised in prison. And you’ll be the absolute lowest of the low because of being a sex offender.
You’re still very young.
It’s not even likely that the treatment will cost you your fertility as long as you’re not made to take it for like 3+ years. And because you’re still growing (young people can often respond to treatment relatively rapidly because brains are still so neuroplastic).
That’s andracur.
Don’t use the loaded word. You’ve just a bit too much testosterone. So they’ll even it out so you can control yourself. Listen to your lawyers and your doctors and don’t fiddle with any more kids. (I’m responding because I hope this is more ephebophilia and not actual pedophilia and not a troll.)
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Ok. I’m really not thinking to strait tge moment. I had to have a feeding tube up my nose for 4 weeks cos my jaw was smashed. Problem is I don’t think I will avoid going back to prison even if I do start on the meds. My sentence is 9 years and I’ve only done 3. There is no deal on the table I think that they will want me on it for at least another 2 years before release is considered
OK, 2 years or 6 years then?
Anyway, your legal team has said there is a chance. Only one way to find out.
Really, what are you going to loose? Excessive sex drive?
If the lawyers say there’s a chance, then try leaning on it?
As in try to actually accept the idea that — no offense — diagnosis aren’t an excuse, and you do need to take personal responsibility, and the way you can show that now is trying to understand that you are indeed sick in the sense of lacking understanding and being too horny, or whatever it may be.
If you accept the treatment instead of being very critical of it, it might change your chances.
My point here being that if it’s even an option, why not take it?Because I think “chemical castration” sounds a lot more emasculating than they actually are. They won’t change your soul, you’ll just have the ability to think more clearly when your brain isn’t hijacked by lust.
And in a few years, that’ll even out naturally. And especially if you get help as well.
Can’t you ask to go to committed care, at least for a few years of the sentence or smth, idk.
I’m not a lawyer and I don’t know what you did but justice and mental illness definitely aren’t served or treated by prison beat ups.
2 years in a mental facility could honestly do you good. Maybe try asking people about that idk.
5 years in prison… I don’t know what sort of prison but I’ve not heard good things about any American prisons. And since you already got beaten once…
I don’t know you or what you did but I believe in justice and actual rehabilitation instead of just stupid ass beatings as punishment.
Thanks that’s all good advice. I think Andracur is a lot worse than you think the dose will be high for sure. Definitely hope I don’t go back in gen pop again but in my state they don’t like pedophile convicts and the guard ard on tge take
Well yeah the dose will be different than than someone treating a mild case of backne, sure.
But the worst symptoms would perhaps be a bit of moobs and a softer skin.
Rather that for a few years than getting beat up, surely? Because even if you had to take them for a full two years in committed care with some psych meds and you’ll be a somewhat zombie with small moobs, you’ll still get out well before you’re 30 and then just exercise a little bit and moobs gone and natural test isn’t on the level of “can’t stop myself from committing sex crimes” and you’ve gained a few years of tools for phycological management from the treatment.
I know it’s not what you want, and it feels like something essential is taken from you, but honestly, you probably do have a bit too much testosterone and you might actually like the calming effect.
I don’t know about the dosage, but that’s always something you can disuss, even if doctors aren’t that openminded to advice from mental health patients (trust me I know), I’d still rather take them than prison any day.
Hell the week or two I spend in a locked ward was actually a nice vacation. And I genuinely spoke myself out after the involuntary 72 hour hold. On a Sunday (the doctor didn’t enjoy coming in) but I got out. Then I realised I was still way too messed up and went back the next day. This was locked ward for drug related psychosis and whatnot, although mine was as much from a burnout as the LSD but anyway.
I’m sure the US has psychiatric hospitals and they’re pretty much like prisons, but nowadays nicer I’d imagine. I may be a 1000% wrong on that but given how liberal the US is with medicines and how bad the prison culture is, I’d take my chances with a psychiatric hospital if at all possible.
Yes I get that. Then when I do get out I will probably be on parole for years and having to keep on the drugs or back to jail. I will see but I appreciate the advice
Honestly the dosage for achieving a lot of reduction in horniness is quite pronounced even on 50-100mg doses, which is the same dose they use for backne and other stuff. Doses under 25mg don’t really work for acne, but people honestly take this stuff voluntarily for other things, but there is a mention of side effects usually making it less suitable for men, but that’s like your age kids who got it for backne and weren’t told they’ll only want to fuck like a fifth of what they did before and they were clubbing or having girlfriends and it became an issue.
You want to have like 80% less urges so no matter what they are you’ll be able to control them.
This is the effective ingredient in androcur
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyproterone_acetate
Read that, Google people using it for acne and whatnot and see their stories. It’ll reassure you. Because you won’t find a lot of sympathetic conversation about using it for sex offenders, I fear. But you can see the do age used for SO from that image. And you can google androcur experiences or something to get an idea. And people will tell you their dose usually on those forums for backne or whatever reason they’re use it.
Honestly I’m the furthest thing from a pill-shill, but I feel like you’re giving the same sort of resistance your lawyers and doctors will have picked up.
If you can honestly reassure yourself it’s not that big of a thing — and it isn’t, it’s not complete loss of your sexuality, it’s just reigning it in, for now, (you’ll have all the time to fuck later in life when you’ve got your shit settled) — well then the doctors and the lawyers and the judges will see that in your face.
I think you think you’re gonna lose something. Something that makes you you. I’ve been on quite a lot of meds and I haven’t to managed to get rid of me. I’ve grown though. And you will too.
You might need the pills to lower the urges now, but if you were in therapy as well and would be evaluated, you might not in a couple of years. Because you still have the sort of very virile sex drive but you’re also just a year or a couple out of puberty. So it’ll settle down in the next few years. It won’t go away, but it’s less dumb horniness.
I’ve communicated with other pedophile guys who went on androcur who say the first two weeks they were put on 300mg a day then reduced to 200mg per day. They say it wax a nightmare with hot sweats at night and feeling sick and very tired. One guy who stayed on it for 2 years says it changed his body to round and large hips and boobs. My problem is I still have at least another 6 years in the gen pop. I’m screwed either way