This is not my pic because I forgot to screenshot it when I did it. Microsoft has the hardest captcha I have ever had to complete. This one looks easier but I had a similar one that on my phone the images were too small, not recognizable and were more abstract looking shapes. It was so hard, I failed like 8 times (there were several ‘rounds’) and it almost made me second guess whether I might actually be a robot lol. Luckily, there was an audio version where you have to pick from a number of melody recordings and choose the one that was a pattern. Anyone else have trouble with this?

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    Pretty sure any decent model could easily solve that anyways. To borrow a quote about bears from the National Park Service, there’s now significant overlap between your dumbest users and the smartest AI.

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      Pretty sure any decent model could easily solve that anyways.

      True, but often these things also track the mouse movements or touch inputs and analyse those to see if they match natural human input or not. Of course advanced AI would be able to simulate proper inputs but most bots today would fail this check.

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      I am usually good at puzzles but this was hard to see on my phone. The pictures were much smaller in my version compared to the image. It wasn’t an intelligence issue, it was a vision issue. Yet, many sites still just use a check box even the bank I work for does. Bigger companies than MS use a checkbox.

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    I got this one the other day during a checkout process. This site lost the sale, I couldn’t crack it.

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      I would have picked the only picture of a dog. Bees and Tapirs/Capybaras don’t seem to fit

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        Me and all my friends agree, but the site did not accept that as the correct answer. I originally took that picture to get a second opinion and make sure I wasn’t going crazy heh. I even tried for a new captcha, and it was still nonsense.

        We did it, we beat AI. And humans.

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      That one is terrible. I assume by “object” they mean “dog wearing accessories”. That captcha was made to trick humans.

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      A few years ago when I was in college, I would’ve been able to solve that equation probably but that information has since left my brain lol.

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        Yup same, i looked it up and it all came back. However, it’s still a completely useless knowledge in my normal adult life, though i’m a software engineer

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          Much of the math I learned was memorizing steps. If it came up in real life I probably wouldn’t be able to piece all necessary info into an equation. Even a word problem is assumed to include the minimum. I am not a software engineer nor a programmer (yet) I am learning python supposedly a good precursor since my bg is in web design. The way i see it, all forms of logic while they don’t have a direct applied use in my life, serve as an exercising of my mind and can help understand inconsistencies and other logic/reasoning concepts. They are indirectly related.

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          Calc was extremely useful to me as an industrial engineer and thank fuck I only have to understand it instead of actually doing it in my profession

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      My solution:

      The outer square lines in the third column/row is the result of the difference between what exists in the first two items in that row/column. Only outer lines appearing only once will be in the 3rd shape. The center lines seem to be only center lines that appear in both shapes. Therefore x is 52, since all outer shapes cancel and there are no shared center lines. The rest is fairly simple.

      The second derivative of f(x) is 78x + 22, so the answer is 78(52) + 22 + 52 = 4130

      I’m not completely confident in this solution but it seems to be consistent with the known columns and rows.

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      Claude 3.5 sonnet seems to think the answer is 23

      CharGPT o1 thinks it’s 6, but the formula answer is 496 and just a “bonus”

      o1 also “thought” about for a LONG TIME 1 minute and 11 seconds, which is the longest I’ve ever been able to get it to “think” about anything LMAO\

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        that’s really impressive, parsing so much information from a 2 step problem displayed skewed on a garbled background

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        Notice how it doesn’t explain what’s going on in the pattern that got it to number 6. It’s just a guess. If push comes to shove, anyone can make a straight faced lie that whatever option is the correct answer, they’ll justavoid explaining it.

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        no the correct pattern is 52, using the following method:

        • for each column, superpose the outer diagonal lines of the first and second pattern, lines that appear in both symbols are suppressed in the third (bottom) pattern, lines that only appear in one of the two first patterns are kept.
        • for each column, superpose the clock hands of the first and second pattern, only keep the clock hands that appear in both symbols at the same position.

        The third column has the same diagonal lines in the first and second pattern, so they disappear. Those two symbols have different clock hands so they also disappear. So the only remaining element in the pattern is the central dot (52).

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    So, it’s a little known fact that captchas and such like no longer test to see if you can solve something, because the bots have evolved to pass those kinds of tests.

    They also tried to set them up to succeed where humans failed, but then bots evolved to pass those, too.

    So now they look at how you fail or pass, or how you keep trying. Basically, they’re checking if you’re human by seeing how you respond to frustration.

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        well, there’s that too.

        Kind of a “we need to put this out there anyway” kind of thing…

        The way they verify you’re human is how you respond, but they’re also getting you to train AI’s while they do it.

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    Rapidly getting into the “overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists” levels of captcha

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      Hey man, I don’t like Chicago either, but to say that their football players are all dumb? I’m sure they’re reasonably smart…

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      I just feel jipped bc my version of the orbits and numbers were all jumbles so you couldn’t tell which orbit pertained to which number.

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      The version I did had smaller circles, more abstract and nearly indistinguishable symbols and shapes and the numbers were scattered throughout the orbits. Some numbers were in between and it took a few seconds to figure out what orbit they were ‘labeling’. Also as you scrolled through the options, it seemed as if none fit the appropriate answer so I defaulted to the audio.

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    I’ve been staring at this thing for like 30 seconds, and I have zero clue what it’s asking you to do.

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        But…9 is on a different orbit. It’ll collide with the teal chess piece. Then we’ll have chess pieces floating in space for all eternity!

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          and if you fail too many times and they collide then you’ll initiate a cascading reaction of ever-more-destroyed chess pieces, invalidating entire orbits, and rendering every possible orbit uninhabitable.

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      There is simple arrows at the bottom which changes availiable images. They just change orbits on different images and when it’s in correct orbit click submit

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    Unplug the network cable and reboot. When it asks about an account there should be an option to join a domain. Select that and you can make a local account. *

    *Ms changes this a bit so it may be inaccurate

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      This was for an online service. I don’t want it to be restricted to one device. I was creating multiple accounts so I could have multiple free trials of things not affiliated with MS but had an option to use an MS account to log in.

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    Someone shared with me having to calculate the resistance of a resistor once. I sent them the color band chart to figure it out lol

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      I know why they do it, just the fact that they seem to be the only ones with a difficult one like this. Some people might not be able to. I could barely see it.

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      It was already a problem before. Now it is much worse.

      The actual issue is that the entire system relies on obscurity

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    It’s interesting in how it combines three different tests - visualization of both the targets and the field to move them in, comprehension of what the task is, and correct movement. I had to take a second to understand the whole point myself.

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    I recently set up a new GitHub account and it had the same crap. And you have to get 3 in a row correct. I got so frustrated and I was cursing enough that my wife came into my office to make sure I was okay.