I’m talking about a fan theory, that if true doesn’t drastically upend the fundamentals of the fiction it is set in.
Mine is that in the American Dad episode ‘Can I Be Frank With You’, that Snot’s uncle is actually just another Roger persona. He appears suddenly and conveniently to pitch a bizarre scheme, he loves hanging around with teen boys and doing drugs, and the very instant that the plan has a setback he kills himself out of sight of everyone else. That’s just Roger in a suit and glasses.
Edit: Ok, so, people are having trouble with the word “inconsequential”.
Throughout the Solo movie, Han tries to thread the needle multiple times and fails. In the end of the movie he finally succeeds but only after plugging Lando’s robo girlfriend’s brain into the Falcon. After that point they never suggest that they remove her from it. They never need an astromech to calculate jumps again and almost every single person that pilots the Falcon threads the needle at least once, including ray who has literally never flown before when she does it.
Han isn’t the pilot. He’s the captain of a ghost ship. Every mistake he’s made since then has been expertly corrected by the ship itself, now given a mind and one of the longest running navigation databases in the galaxy.
See, this one I like, because it’s one of those “man, I know the writers didn’t mean it that way, but it makes sense… and it’s horrifying!” theories.
The Falcon is so good, because for decades it has essentially had the crippled, half-dead “ghost” of a droid locked inside its computer systems, unable to fully die yet clearly devoid of her true consciousness.
Think of all the times the falcon stalls or shorts out or magically starts working again. That’s not Hans shitty maintenance, that’s the ship ignoring them until they figure out why it’s mad.
In Empire, Han tells 3PO to “talk to the Falcon” and later 3P0 comments on the ship’s “peculiar dialect.” Obviously at the time those lines were written it was just a half joke half figure of speech, but you could argue in universe it implies Han knows the Falcon is conscious and 3P0 was referring to the fact that the Falcon was actually communicating with him, rather than just giving diagnostic data.
3P0: it uses a very peculiar dialect
Falcon: please… let me die…
In the Wizard of Oz, Glenda the “Good” Witch is actually a ruthless drug kingpin.
She used her magic powers to summon a tornado and then merks the Wicked Witch of the East with Dorothy’s house. She then puts WWotE’s shoes on Dorothy in order to make her a target for WWotE’s sister, the Wicked Witch of the West. Glenda then uses Dorothy as a stooge to bump off WWotW, thereby putting herself in control of Oz’s vast fields of opium poppies, and cornering the entire opium trade.
It doesn’t make sense any other way. Glenda could have told Dorothy to use the ruby slippers to get home at literally any point, but instead sends her on a wild goose chase, and uses her as a blunt instrument to take out the only other bases of power remaining in Oz: the WWotW, and the Wizard, who Dorothy exposes as a fraud. Only then does she tell Dorothy to click her heels, and poof: everything is all wrapped up with a bow, and Glenda’s hands are clean. Her two main rivals are dead, and the Wizard is fleeing Oz in disgrace.
It’s some fucking Kaiser Söze level shit.
This but she’s not a drug kingpin and didn’t do the Tornado.
A weird weather event drops a house on one of your 3 rivals and some farm girl steps out. Either it’s a bizarre coincidence or she’s an equally powerful if not more powerful mage. Either way, you don’t want her on your turf so you put a bright red target on her feet and send her after your next rival, who you think may be a fraud. Either she houses more people or she dies, either way it’s not Glenda’s problem.
In the end, she destroys a government, literally melts Glenda’s political and magical equal, and comes back like a lost puppy and Glenda can’t risk Dorothy accidentally melting her so age sends her home.
It wasn’t a pan, it was cleverly using your windfalls.
In the musical wicked which I suppose is canon and happens at the same time, Glenda reveals to Madame Morrible that the wicked witch of the west will probably show herself if her sister (the wicked witch of the east) is in danger. So Morrible summons the tornado to threaten the sister which coincidentally brings along Dorothy. Glenda secretly was good friends with Elphaba (WWotW) so wouldn’t have intentionally gotten her sister killed. There was a lot of politics and propaganda and stuff, but Glenda wasn’t really a villain, just a vain person who found it easier to support an autocracy. Someone who has read the books could probably explains it all, sorry if I’ve ruined your headcanon!
Jar Jar the sith lord
I reckon it’s legit but they decided not to reveal it because they sold Jar Jar toys to too many kids.
I wrote like a 30,000 word treatise refuting every point of the Darth Jar jar with the help of an advocate.
for fun.
it would be great, but it seems unlikely and extremely lacking in evidence when you look at each point one by one and put everything back together.
But he can jump really high
this shocked a lot of people, but the frog guy jumping didn’t convince me he was sith!
meesa?
Would your treatise allow this to work if he’s not a sith, but instead an incredibly powerful by oblivious force user?
My take is that the gungans aren’t well known to the Jedi so they could have missed him, on top of that, palps would have been on naboo when he was born so whatever he’s using to hide his presence may have extended to other force sensitives in the area.
Quigon doesn’t want to get rid of jar jar, even when he’s given the chance to but dies before he has time to really look at jar jar.
Palps is stupidly chummy with jar jar even though everyone hates him. He also trusts the galaxies biggest moron to give the speech his entire plan henges on.
If his ability to accidentally always come up ahead was actually him being too dumb to realize he’s passively using the force, and he wholly believes in palps being the emergency hero, he could have accidentally swayed a few votes.
“Would your treatise allow this to work if he’s not a sith, but instead an incredibly powerful by oblivious force user?”
yeah, it’s as good as any other theory, maybe better than the sith one because there are less obvious things to point out that don’t work.
it kind of sounds like a xanth premise, if you ever read those books.
I don’t think there are strong enough foundations to hold the assumptions together myself, most binks theories I’ve read rely on a passive series of events and assumptions occurring in the background.
and I like them all.
i like the Darth Darth Binks theory and other theories, but taken in context with what is depicted on screen, how straightforward Star wars is, and what the actors and production team and scripts say about the character, there’s no cohesive or convincing supporting evidence that Jar Jar was anything other than comic relief and then a hastily minimized plot device after audiences rebelled against him.
He was the Phantom Menace
That’s all the way consequential.
It was mentioned on the Kill James Bond podcast; The James Bond character continuum.
The reason why James Bond looks different over the years is because James Bond is a position and not a person. Multiple agents have held this position. When one is killed or captured, another agent takes over.
So, where did the different agents end up?
Well, JB by Sean Connery was imprisoned in the US for his many crimes, rape included.
Lazenby quit after his wife was murdered.
Roger Moore, I don’t remember. Killed by Dolph Lundgren, probably.
Timothy Dalton, don’t remember.
Pierce Brosnan was captured by North Korea.
And here are the implications: Sean Connerys James Bond was imprisoned on Alcatraz, and his later life is depicted in the movie The Rock.
Pierce Brosnan is still in an NK cell, deprived of any social contact, tortured, 99% PTSD by what little remains of his body weight. As a coping strategy he has escaped into a fantasy world of his own making. And from this we get the movie Mamma Mia.
Timothy Dalton’s James Bond died deep under double cover in Hollywood in a tragic airship related rocket pack accident.
A risk we all take when going undercover as a nazi…
I heard this theory in the 80s, and I believe there have been in-jokes about it in the last 2 or 3 Daniel Craig Bond films. It’s likely head-canon for most Bond fans.
That’s why I think this I one of the best comments here.
James Bond is a position and not a person.
This is also true about Carmen Sandiego, which is why no one can find “her”
Carmen Sandiego is a metaphor for all that you don’t know, which is why you’re always chasing “her“.
Terminator, the Matrix and Dune are all the same universe at different points in time.
Well, at least we beat back Ai and survive…
Eventually…
Not exactly “fan” theory since I hate that show, but Caillou is bald because has cancer, and he’s allowed to be a little shit because he’s dying.
Clearly true. And yes, he IS a little shit.
The Lion King is an experiment being run by the aliens from Close Encounters of the Third Kind. The music is diagetic and is used to modify behavior.
We know they can implant images and subconscious commands, and that this is perceived through music. That’s why they can coordinate musical numbers on the spot, and why sudden changes in behavior and attitude are accompanied by music.
In particular, the most critical character change comes when a Simba wanders off to be alone, sees a vision in the sky, and the soundtrack kicks in with an extended version of the alien music from Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Suddenly he’s doing a 180 and running back towards his assigned role in the story.
That’s fucking crazy and I absolutely lovd it! 🤣
Event Horizon is a prequel to Warhammer 40k
I’m pretty sure the creator has said as much. He’s always thought of it as existing within the 40k universe
Where we’re going we won’t need eyes to see
Kinda wish I didn’t now. What the fuck is going on
Similarly, Helldivers is also a prequel to WH40K
More Starship Troopers than 40K
Verhoeven’s Starship Troopers specifically, not Heinlein’s.
Ð funniest part wið ðis one is ðat ð creators admitted ðey had no clue 40k was a þing when ðey made ð movie but þought it was a dope þeory anyways
If you’re going to use ancient letters use pre-vowel shift vowels too, you half assed coward.
Ðose vowels did shift ðough, þorn and eð represent sounds ðat only lost ðeir own letters because of importing type from countries ðat didn’t have ðose sounds.
Ðey can be written now ðough, so ð actual reason for not using ðem is null. Ð old vowels however, have well and truly gone, and so spelling wið old vowel sounds in mind isn’t analogous.
They can be written now though
Yeah…? Then tell me why in fuck’s name (or should it be facks?) ‘oo’ can represent six different sounds (food, book, door, blood, cooperation, brooch), for instance, and how to tell them apart, or why the letters ‘a’, ‘e’, ‘o’, ‘aa’, and ‘ea’ are used to represent the same exact sound in the words father, sergeant, body, bazaar, and heart…
Let me assure you that this nonsense is many orders of magnitude more confusing to people learning English as a second language than the ‘th’ shit!
What makes you so sure? One letter for one sound is a lot less complicated ðan two letters representing two sounds.
Also, you clearly didn’t check my profile where I have a worksheet revising all ðose oðer issues too.
I just don’t use ðem because I know asshats like you will just get even angrier if I start taking you up on ðat supposed concern and I don’t feel like dealing wið you all over every word I write.
One letter for one sound is a lot less complicated ðan two letters representing two sounds.
Most languages that use alphabets have digraphs representing different sounds than their composing letters. It’s trivial to understand that ‘th’ represents a different sound than ‘t’ or ‘h’.
Most sane languages, on the other hand, don’t use the same letter or digraph to represent half a dozen different sounds (and when they do they use diacritic marks to distinguish them… which English only uses, without explanation, in borrowed words like fiancé or façade, which might actually be more confusing to native speakers than to ESL ones), or half a dozen letters and digraphs to represent the same sound.
you clearly didn’t check my profile
I’ve got enough of a headache from deciphering your posts, thank you
asshats
Pot, kettle…
Really? They read pretty straightforward to me. THe only real issue I have is that I can’t hear a distinction between a thorn and an eth, so the usage seems arbitrary to me. I know that Icelandic people say there’s a difference, and at least one has tried to explain it, but I can’t hear it.
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Snowpiercer is the sequel to Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.
https://nerdist.com/article/willy-wonka-chocolate-factory-snowpiercer-sequel-fan-theory-dan-cave/
The funniest thing about watching Snowpiercer in 2023 with people who’d never seen it before was after the big reveal about what the protein bars are made of, and how horrified the characters were, all my friends were like “oh, is that it? That makes sense actually. We thought it was going to be the missing children or something terrible”
Oooo
Sisko was killed in TNG’s universe. Sisko survived in DS9’s universe due to the prophets saving him. The Trek universe diverged at Wolf 359.
The Dominion War has drastically different outcomes. Existential crisis in one universe where Sisko does a lot of meddling; barely mentioned in the other.
The biggest change to the cast is that Worf marries Jadzia Dax and becomes Ambassador to the Klingon Empire in one universe; in the other universe, he does a brief inconsequential stint at DS9 (without Sisko), never marries, then returns to the Enterprise E as pretty much the same character from TNG, and at some later point, he gets the Enterprise E destroyed.
The Picard timeline is set in the universe where Sisko died at Wolf 359.
Fascinating, but I’m not buying it.
Still, well formed and fascinating.
Edit: this makes sense if you played Star Trek Online, and I’ll give OP a break for that, but most of the crazy stuff that would have supported this theory 6 years ago has been ironed-out in-canon. Even if it wasn’t done well.
Still, I really enjoyed the alt history version!
I feel this gets hated on a fair bit but I enjoy it, just a bit of fun
Holy fuck that was mindblowing!
Even if it turns out to be false, I applaud their effort in making this up.
Exactly! To link all of these great & unrelated pieces of cinema together into a somewhat believable overarching storyline is pretty cool.
I don’t believe there’s any intent from the creators there at all but it’s an awesome little exercise if nothing else.
Mine is that in Star Trek, at least all the computers advanced enough to be used on a starship are actually sentient. At some point you have enough self aware hologram programs and rogue AIs that you should start to wonder if they’re actually anomalous.
My take is that a true AI would be so far ahead of the humans that it wouldn’t want to slow down enough to interact with them. The AI would treat the humans the way we treat intestinal bacteria; we want them healthy and thriving, but don’t really care much about them day to day.
This pretty much happens in Lower Decks
I’d like to take credit, but I got the idea from Joe Haldeman’s book “Buying Time.”
Fun read, look it up.
Ooh haven’t read that. I really like forever war
enjoy
Honestly, I avoid conversations that matter because I expect most people around me aren’t on the level to contribute. AGI will certainly not give two shits.
This was somewhat of a plot point in a season of Discovery.
I would suggest reading some Ian Banks.
Elsa used ice crystals at a nanoscopic scale to alter her dress during the Let It Go sequence.
Is that not exactly what we see in the movie?
Isn’t this kinda implied?
I’ve always liked the idea that Kevin from Home Alone grew up to be the Jigsaw killer…
I have a theory that Mr Monk was a serial killer who framed people
I always thought that about Jessica Fletcher. Too many people dying around that woman.
Why do the people confess?
People do false confessions to the police literally all the time. You should never talk to cops, and you should never trust a confession
