AI is untrustworthy and shouldn’t be used
I have management talking about copilot usage rates and I hear people casually refer to “what ChatGPT told them” in conversation
The other day on Reddit someone was saying they just fact checked something with ChatGPT.
You can ask ChatGPT to provide sources you know.
I’ve found it very useful as a tool to gather references from talks that don’t cite claims…
It’s like a super search for context. I would never use a LLM to provide logic or reason, and sadly I think many people do.
The sources are bullshit https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_zfN9wnPvU0
AI is untrustworthy and shouldn’t be used
I have a more nuanced take. AI is simultaneously untrustworthy and useful. For many queries, DuckDuckGo and Google are performing considerably worse than they used to, while Perplexity usually yields good results. Perplexity also handles complex queries traditional search engines just can’t.
About a third of the time, Perplexity’s text summary of what it found is inaccurate; it may even say the opposite of what a source does. Reading the sources and evaluating their reliability is no less important than with traditional search, but much of the time I think I wouldn’t have found the same sources that way.
Of course there are other issues with AI, such as power usage and Perplexity in particular being known for aggressive web scraping.
Nuance and depth isn’t as popular as I’d like on or off Lemmy.
I’ve found it to be extremely useful for stuff like one-off powershell commands that I’ll use like 3x in my career.
Just today I was trying to find the command line switches for disk2vhd, and none of the top results, even the official page for the app, had them.
But Google’s AI had them and provided sources I could use to verify the information.
But people didn’t do that last part before AI, so I can see why it’s an issue.
Absolutely. I recently needed to satisfy auditors with a report on our network security. Our main guy was on leave, but I quickly got the evidence I needed with a few powershell commands that I would have previously spent way more time googling.
It’s also decent at reports and short, impersonal emails to suppliers etc. It frees up a lot of my time to do actual work, and for that I think it’s decent.
Like basically everything in life, the truth is between the extremes. For me it’s useful, but doesn’t replace me and my team. I’m neither an AI evangelist or detractor. It’s just another tool.
Ah, but you see, I never claimed AI isn’t useful. In fact, you can check my comment history. I’ve agreed AI is a very useful tool, I still think it shouldn’t be used for ethical, social, and personal reasons
A problem with nuance is that people want to discuss the specifics and nuances of what they care about but for the most part won’t do that on subjects for other people. So you need to tailor your responses to your audience. FWIW on Lemmy I see a lot more instances of people with specificly opposed takes where both sides have similar vote counts. So while it’s not perfect it’s better than most
You can theoretically have an ethical LLM. You can train one from the ground up on non-copyrighted materials using renewable energy.
But I think what a lot of people are forgetting is that it’s not uncommon for technology to start off super inefficient. A computer used to take up an entire floor of an office building, and a hard drive with a few KB of storage used to be the size of a fridge.
Now you can have a system orders of magnitude more powerful that’s the size of a postage stamp and consumes less than 1W of power.
Lots of things theoretically exist: a reasonable terms and conditions, a functioning DMV, a unified charging standard, etc. I’m going to focus my energy on things that are real and not hope someone decides to be morally upstanding. If you’re arguing that the bullshit machine that spreads lies that actively harm people could become so ubiquitous that it fits in any electronic device if we just keep giving it money, then I’d say you’re making my argument for me
Depends on the subject
I think it is useful with a constrained dataset. Like using it to summarize things about a dataset, or dumping documents into it and asked getting info about it (like Gemini in Google Drive).
It is not useful for general question using the whole-ass internet as a dataset.
Also I wish it was called something other than AI…it’s just a word guesser FFS.
I have people telling me how to do my work because “That’s what ChatGPT suggested, and they’re always accurate”.
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Actual AGI would be trustworthy. The current “AI” is just a word salad blender program.
Would it? I run a science fiction book club and there’re a lot of arguments that if something achieved human level intelligence that it would immediately try to kill us, not become our perfect servants
“It was a morality core they installed after I flooded the Enrichment Center with a deadly neurotoxin to make me stop flooding the Enrichment Center with a deadly neurotoxin.”
I believe in the Grand Plan, and I have faith in The Director. Begone, faction scum.
I’d completely forgotten about this show. But your comment made me start a rewatch 3 days ago, and man, it’s better than I remembered. Really has me hooked, and I just started season 2 now. Thanks!
That was a good show.
It could be argued that people are AGI. Are they always trustworthy?
As a software developer I fully agree. People bash on it constantly here but the fact is is that it’s required for our jobs now. I just made it through a job hunt and every tech screen I did they not only insisted on me using AI, but they figured how much I was using too.
The fact is is that like it or not it does speed us up, and it is a tool in our toolbelt. You don’t have to trust it 100% or blindly accept what it does, but you do need to be able to use it. Refusing to use it is like refusing to use the designer for WinForms 20 years ago, or refusing to use an IDE at work. You’re going to be at a massive disadvantage to your competing jobseekers who are more than happy to use AI.
The fact is is that like it or not it does speed us up
That’s dumbshits using it to do their job for them and trusting the output blindly. If you’re using LLMs to get over the occasional hump they’re awesome time savers.
I’m guessing you don’t write code?
Fine it speeds me up.
The people in the study thought so too
I review take home assignments and mostly we receive AI submissions. It’s easy to tell when they aren’t AI though because we get thoughtful comments about why one choice was made over another, and comments on the higher level view that only come from product context and experience. I don’t think one single fully ai-created submission has made it passed the code review part.
I’ve met a lot of people who don’t agree with “billionaires shouldn’t exist”
The propaganda is so strong with this one. If you talk to someone who owns just about anything, they somehow imagine you’re coming after them and their stuff if you even mention anything like taxing the rich, much less getting rid of people who own more than some entire counties.
They just worked harder than the rest of us and had good ideas at the right time.
Erm, no, that still doesn’t make their labour worth thousands of times more than the next person.
People I talk to know millionaire workaholics and think that but for some timing that person would be a billionaire because they don’t understand how orders of magnitude work. 100k in the bank vs 1 million is a much smaller barrier than 1 million vs 1 billion never mind 100 billion
The whole 1% slogan was fucking stupid. We all know decent people in the 1%. It’s the .001% that are the problem.
most of the 1% I have known are not decent at all. they are just good at playing the victim and passing the buck to someone else wealthier than them.
I don’t think people would stop at billionaires. They’d keep going until it got uncomfortably close to their own level of wealth, but the people worse off than them wouldn’t stop there, either.
Provided we are talking about taxation not guillotines, it’s that really a problem? In Norway, a doctor doesn’t earn much more than a train ticket seller.
“Why study medicine”, you ask? “Self actualisation.” Is their answer. Remember, University is free in that system, so no student debt.
[Giancarlo Esposito Meme]
I think billionaires shouldn’t exist because we should have appropriate levels of taxation and a “maximum wage” law.
Lemmy thinks billionaires shouldn’t exist and are setting up guillotines.
We are not the same.
You are the same it’s just that yours only comes after theirs. You can’t get to yours until you do theirs first.
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Linux
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Communism
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independent social media
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“You should totally install Linux, Bro/Sis”
And if you install it often enough you might change from bro to sis /s
Linux girlies are the goats
It’s a myth, no cisgender women, only transgender women and femboys, but yea they’re the goats
That Lemmy is a worthwhile use of our time?
That’s the best one right there
linux desktop and russian propaganda
“Eat the rich.” Appearently people don’t think they are tasty outside of Lemmy.
It’s all about how you prepare the meat.
I’m praying this new wave of politicians win with their message that the wealthy are the root of our problems. Not the merely rich, the wealthy.
Watched this guy twice, got weepy both times. I want to cry and fucking scream. This is the winning message!
The person working the drive through at McDonald’s should be paid a livable wage.
Because in the real world we all know no one is paying 20$ for a happy meal.
Good thing it doesn’t need to be $20, the corporate middleman leeches just need cut out of the equation.
Fascism is bad
Lol fascism is not a popular opinion.
Reminder that the actual original nazis never had a majority in any democratic elections, its the loud minority that took control by force.
Fascism isn’t a popular opinion
But being against it is unpopular
Murder is okay sometimes.
This is popular. Just look at the celebrations when bin laden got killed. Or how people celebrate executions of heionous criminals. Sure, they say they don’t like “murder”, but they think like: “he should get the death penalty”, which is practically the same thought, but worded in a more… “legal” phrasing.
I mean maybe not “majority”, but there’s a lot of people that are okay with death penalty. Even the liberals opposing death penalty sometimes think that a mass shooter should get executed, like that white supremacist dude that murdered black people in a church (not gonna name the shithead), biden was doing pardons when he was leaving office and that guy was one of the ones that he did not commute the death sentence of. So he basically implied that he approved of the racist murder getting executed. A president of the US implicitly approved of a killing (a good decision, btw), I mean… that’s as mainstream as it can get.
Death to the Charleston Church shooter. Lolol (To mods: this is not “violence” since dude is on death row, I’m just wishing for it to be faster LOL)
TLDR: “Murder” bad, “Executions” okay, is basically the sentinment of some people.
That seems pretty popular out in the world as well, just usually with slightly different selections of ‘sometimes.’
The people I associate with in real life and get exposed to via media are all very much of the opinion that murder is bad.
I still have no idea what a Tankie is. As far as I can tell it only exists here on Lemmy and I might be one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie
Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support or defend acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the occurrence of the events thereof. More specifically, the term has been applied to those who express support for one-party Marxist–Leninist socialist republics, whether contemporary or historical. It is commonly used by anti-authoritarian leftists, anarchists, libertarian socialists, left communists, social democrats, democratic socialists, and reformists to criticise Leninism, although the term has seen increasing use by liberal and right‐wing factions as well.[5][4]
As an example, I recently had someone unironically claim that china has more free speech than france, from a server hosted in france 🤦
The term came into use for communists who supported the Soviet Union sending in tanks to crush the Hungarian Revolution in 1956, with the commentary being that tankies supported Soviet imperialism over local revolution.
So supporting Palestine over Israel doesn’t make someone a tankie, but supporting Russia over Ukraine does.
Not a Tankie! 🥳
It’s just a variety of fascist, pretending to belong with ideologies and principles that are not compatible
If you want to see some non-lemmy tankies, check out https://raddle.me/.
By skimming the front page I don’t see many tankie-traits. Loads of communism and socialism, sure, but not much tankie stuff. But I’m sure there’s a lot of them in the comments with “interesting” takes on the cultural revolution and the holodomor.
You’re right. It seems to be mostly anarchists and such. There might have been more tankies back in the day, or maybe I just misremembered.
In practice, liberals and anarchists call anyone who defines themselves as a communist a tankie. Liberals will frequently use it for anyone who claims to be any sort of socialist.
Maybe sometimes. I don’t think this is generally true. Though I’ve also met tankies who think you’re not a real communist unless you’re a tankie. Are you one of those people?
To me you’re not a tankie unless you consistently apologize for, minimize, or dismiss oppression under so-called socialist countries. There are a decent number of communists who don’t do this but they’re not the majority from what I’ve seen.
I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted for this. I’ve SEEN real tankies, doing odd things like cheering for BRICS to rise up or Russia to defeat NATO in Ukraine because late stage capitalist oligarchy counts as communism if it’s Russian or something, I don’t know?
But the VAST majority of the time I see it used is by neoliberals as an excuse to dismiss literally anyone anywhere on the actual political left out of hand.
neoliberals would not call you a “tankie”, since “communist” is already a deogratory/perjorative term for them.
Linux is great actually, and Lemmy is cool.
Kill your lawn! Be a vegan. The devil is a landlord!
That it’s okay to kill people who disagree with you
It is fairly statistically demonstrable that this is becoming a trend everywhere and far from unique to lemmy
It’s scary.
That seems to be quite big on Reddit too.
No you get banned!
Russia want to invade Europe
Edit: stay classy, Lemmy.
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