Oh no, vulnerable 🥺 they need DEI? They need to be a protected class? 🥺
Surveillance is suddenly wrong when it’s the peasants surveiling wannabe samurai? 🥺
Evil thrives in darkness
Can I just be “that guy” and point out the CEO of Google is “Sundar Puchai”?
Who do you think Trump is coming for, you fucking idiot? It’s not guys like me named “David”.
I hate this. I hate that they are targeting “minorities”, or Hispanics, or Indian folks… But many people in charge who are part of these groups don’t even care. They think they are special. You’re money doesn’t make you immune, you complete goddamn waste of oxygen.
We’re trying to fucking help you. Stop condemning fellow human beings for the sake of profits. You are damning your children, and your family. You are selling them for gains. We hate you, and so do your children.
Rich Brahman caste Indians, or similar believe they are the ones most similar to rich white people. At least if you looked into Indian caste system, they are notoriously conservative and probably racist too. Usha, is also part of it
They need to be protected alright, with thick concrete walls, iron bars, locks, and guards. Nobody in or out for a few decades oughta keep them nice and safe
Vulnerable to Fascism?
VulnerableSusceptibleWell, I’m sure they wouldn’t give encryption keys away.
I think they’re less “vulnerable” and more “fragile”
“Afraid of any sort of accountability”
Oh? Are we giving them privacy?
if they have nothing to hide, they have nothing to fear
Yeah, maybe it would be in our interests to make all government communications public access. If it isn’t a matter happening outside our borders, have it open. Maybe a classification for certain discussions that requires they be released in a timely manner, and when reviewed by a 3rd party if any information is attempted to be hidden they are immediately removed from their position and an investigation starts as to whether the offense should be criminal.
The timely manner would have to be monitored as in “we are going to performing a drug raid” they get a warrant that allocates them 2 days to have discussions pertaining to that topic, organize and execute it. Then release all communications immediately following. If they don’t believe they can perform it in that time they need to submit it in their warrant request as to the reason why, time period, and date the information will be made public.
If we wrote strict laws on it, the judges would be held accountable for giving out warrants brazenly, and the executive branch would be kept in check by such
Maybe we should consider some sort of informational freedom act.
The irony is so rich.
To anyone that had doubts about governments putting restrictions on app stores, here is your proof. The level of power the current situation grants this duopoly is excessive and dangerous.
I thought we had all the proof we needed when Tim Cook and Sundar Pichai were snuggling up to Trump at dinners and the inauguration
google had been snuggling up to conservatives for a while, mostly around mid-pandemic, when they removed restrictions on not banning election denial, and then snowballed into right wing propaganda videos plaguing youtube ever since. they are part of the problem, even moreso than APPLE. and google recently made deals WITH ISRAEL to allow thier propaganda to fester the site.
Federated solutions which can’t be stopped, self hosted, and available via Fdroid.
Only real answer.
Until Google revokes publishing privileges for side-loading applications. I think we’ll have to go further and get used to making PWAs and regular websites.
side-loading
You mean “installing normally.” “Sideloading” is fucking anti-property-rights loaded language.
Good point. Wild how these ghouls have normalized their bullshit language.
Do you have a better, simple word for what they’re banning?
installing?
downloading and installing programs.
But they’re not banning downloading and installing programs. What are they blocking, specifically?
They’re banning programs from being installed unless the installation has their consent
They’re banning non google-drmed app installs
Isn’t there somebody you forgot to ask?
regular installs of apps by unverified or suspended developers
they can still be installed by
- signing it yourself
- installing via
adb - disabling Google Play Protect
whenever I point this out to the drama queens here, they get hissy
Yes. Just looking for a simple 1-3 word term that encapsulates this
Loading non-playstore apps?
“Ownership.”
What do you call installing an application on a computer?
I say “I
apt-getit”
Allow vendors to completely control what apps run on your phone and banning websites and PWAs becomes trivial for them. Browsers are apps.
Google started using buzzwords of sideloading as to make a boogeyman security issue, to get people to side with them. its just installing, other than thier main store.
I can’t believe Steve Jobs was right all along.
He believed if he made quality products, that the stock price increases all the soulless capitalists demanded would follow. Which of course they did. Then Tim Apple took over, and quality went out the window in favor of stock buybacks. Kind of like Boeing.
Steve Jobs just didn’t have the right foresight. PWA’s were a solution when the web was supposed to be the future of applications distribution. If he knew native apps were still the future and in app advertising and microtransactions were going to be where all was at, he would never have pushed PWA’s. Steve was a salesman first and foremost
Right? A well protected browser is about the best tool in this shi-nternet future.
Back before iOS had apps, webapp devs were clever AF. There was Beejive web for multi-IM and all sorts of clever stuff.
One can still put an icon for webapps on the home screen, and the OS even displays it as a full screen app. (Android has similar but not as elegant.)
They can only do that to phones running gapps
The issue with this is that like 95% of android devices run android with gapps and re-imaging your phone is becoming increasingly more difficult as manufacturers lock down their bootloaders. Normies who aren’t technical are not gonna want to mess with that shit. I’m not saying this to instill hopelessness but highlighting that it’s a challenge.
For censorship circumvention, mainstream tech is gonna continue to be increasingly useless. We need to educate people about these matters and also try to encourage people to lean heavily into decentralised comms like lora/meshtastic
All phones run gapps by default, other than those in Mainland China, that is.
Not just China, also common in south America. Huawei still has a large market share there and their phones don’t have gapps since Trump banned American companies from doing business with Huawei
How about web apps or even regular sites with a mobile friendly UI?
aaand that’s why we need to be able to install apps without their vetting.
I mean… You only need the APK 👀
I miss the days of just needing a url
for now
I already switched from Chrome to FF, I guess my phone needs a better OS next.
great for a very small subset of people, lets ask an Abuela to side load an apk. its what makes these decisions by google/apple so fucking awful, they are direct attack on civilians.
and an RPK
you can
it’s also why apps that can be websites should
Calling masked, armed, armored thugs and terrorists with a disregard for the law a “vulnerable group” is a bit thick, isn’t it?
Do rich cowards that give other rich assholes fealty often do what their rulers tell them?! 1111?
What a fucking piece of shit.
Google says a group of masked fascists kidnapping children from their beds is a “vulnerable group”.
To be fair, they did set expectations when they got rid of the “don’t be evil” moto.
google recently fellated trump and the gop. Google’s youtube is pretty instrumental in drawing in more incel men to voting Rs, by platforming right wingers out of context , like kirk,shapiro, fox, ,ETC.
Brown shirts were a vulnerable group too!
For reference: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust
If you ever want to know why capitalism turns into fascism, look into how many companies willingly and knowingly did business with Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy.
IBM made computers to help the Holocaust, because the Nazis could pay for the service of the machines to be built.
Google is just a modern IBM.
The Model M in my attic: heavy breathing
Hey I’m also guilty, I have had a few thinkpads. All second hand, but I did love my T420.
I just bought a (Lenovo) Thinkpad T580. Good laptop. I do plan on buying buy an IBM-era Thinkpad in the future. Hopefully, it doesn’t come with a copy of Mein Kampf or Völkischer Beobachter.
With this “new” America, who knows?
Fascism is a business choice, always has been. Hitler didn’t get popular by himself
Why do that when we can just watch it in real time right now?
Was ever any doubt who corporate America would side with?
The 1 million dollar question: Would I be able to side load it with the new Google developer registration rules?
lol
So this could get much more serious if they start clamping down on the comm tools we take for granted. Between this and the incoming sideloading block - all of a sudden the most paranoid fears of Stallman’s don’t seem nearly as far fetched.
