What do you mean by that? I don’t think it makes much sense to generalize criticism about groups of people, because people are just so different. Even if there are statistical commonalities in these that differentiate them from others, the differences between individuals of a group will always be bigger than these commonalities.
alright. that’s a specific identity. but should we criticize everyone with blue eyes or everyone with long fingers? i don’t think any identity is inherently fair game for criticism, but i do think that any individual of any identity is open to criticism for abhorrent behavior such as sexual abuse
Not entire groups of people based on generalizations.
Depends on the group. If the basis for the group identity is being criticized, that is valid. If there is institutional problems, criticizing the group for being complicit is valid.
It is only invalid when the criticism is aimed at generalizations that apply to less than half of the group, or are based on inaccurate stereotypes.
You’re right, we should examine each and every single nazi individually - to make sure they’re up to standards. We wouldn’t want to accidentally accuse a swastika-wearing nazi of being a nazi if they’re just not up to the task.
Oh wait, that’s fucking stupid, and so are you.
Don’t join hate groups if you don’t want to be associated with that hate group. If you do, you’re part of that group and no amount of ‘i don’t discriminate on generalizations’ is going to get you out of your hate group membership.
“But I’m one of the good nazis!!!” - eat shit and die.
I don’t generally start posts like this, but I feel the line above was my invitation:
Hey, dumbass. If you would settle down for one minute and think about the words that you’re looking at before you start flipping out on people, you might realize that
JOINING A NAZI GROUP IS THE ACTION OF AN INDIVIDUAL.
PARTICIPATING IN A NAZI ACTIVITIES ARE THE ACTIONS OF AN INDIVIDUAL.
SUPPORTING OR DONATING TO NAZI GROUPS IS AN ACTION OF AN INDIVIDUAL.
I’m talking about shit like: The Nazis were German, so Germans are Nazis. Israel is committing genocide, so Jews are evil. There was a trans school shooter, so trans people are dangerous.
Go take all your impotent energy and do something useful instead of blowing up on people who are on the same side as you, you stupid ignorant fuck.
The OP was asking about terms like ‘racist’ – not nazi. Yes, anyone walking in a group where there’s a swastiza flag can be appropriately called a nazi because they chose to join in a group with that flag, BUT just because a person is considers themself a ‘conservative’ does not also make them a racist just as being a ‘lefty’ does not make them antisemetic. Maybe they are, but it takes an action or at least a comment – not a general label – to make a judgement.
I think we should be able to criticize all identities
What do you mean by that? I don’t think it makes much sense to generalize criticism about groups of people, because people are just so different. Even if there are statistical commonalities in these that differentiate them from others, the differences between individuals of a group will always be bigger than these commonalities.
people of any identity or any identity? there’s a difference
That would depend on the common traits of an identity, no?
Pedophiles is an identity that i don’t think have many redeeming qualities, do you?
They take ‘think of the children’ too far for sure
alright. that’s a specific identity. but should we criticize everyone with blue eyes or everyone with long fingers? i don’t think any identity is inherently fair game for criticism, but i do think that any individual of any identity is open to criticism for abhorrent behavior such as sexual abuse
Every identity is open for criticism, but it doesn’t mean that the criticism is valid.
I agree, if you mean: We should be able to criticize individuals for their own actions.
Not entire groups of people based on generalizations.
Depends on the group. If the basis for the group identity is being criticized, that is valid. If there is institutional problems, criticizing the group for being complicit is valid.
It is only invalid when the criticism is aimed at generalizations that apply to less than half of the group, or are based on inaccurate stereotypes.
You’re right, we should examine each and every single nazi individually - to make sure they’re up to standards. We wouldn’t want to accidentally accuse a swastika-wearing nazi of being a nazi if they’re just not up to the task.
Oh wait, that’s fucking stupid, and so are you.
Don’t join hate groups if you don’t want to be associated with that hate group. If you do, you’re part of that group and no amount of ‘i don’t discriminate on generalizations’ is going to get you out of your hate group membership.
“But I’m one of the good nazis!!!” - eat shit and die.
I don’t generally start posts like this, but I feel the line above was my invitation:
Hey, dumbass. If you would settle down for one minute and think about the words that you’re looking at before you start flipping out on people, you might realize that
JOINING A NAZI GROUP IS THE ACTION OF AN INDIVIDUAL.
PARTICIPATING IN A NAZI ACTIVITIES ARE THE ACTIONS OF AN INDIVIDUAL.
SUPPORTING OR DONATING TO NAZI GROUPS IS AN ACTION OF AN INDIVIDUAL.
I’m talking about shit like: The Nazis were German, so Germans are Nazis. Israel is committing genocide, so Jews are evil. There was a trans school shooter, so trans people are dangerous.
Go take all your impotent energy and do something useful instead of blowing up on people who are on the same side as you, you stupid ignorant fuck.
In case you are serious: easy there, tiger.
The OP was asking about terms like ‘racist’ – not nazi. Yes, anyone walking in a group where there’s a swastiza flag can be appropriately called a nazi because they chose to join in a group with that flag, BUT just because a person is considers themself a ‘conservative’ does not also make them a racist just as being a ‘lefty’ does not make them antisemetic. Maybe they are, but it takes an action or at least a comment – not a general label – to make a judgement.
Wait, what’s the difference between a Nazi and a conservative? That’s a change in degree not in kind.
Well, for one: Lots of conservatives fought and died to stop Hitler.
Most Conservatives aren’t Nazis.
I am sure many US conservatives would deny this, but they are actively mourning a wanna be Nazi. Also, MAGA is literally a Nazi movement in disguise.
I would normally agree with you, but I am not so sure anymore.