• Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    I agree, if you mean: We should be able to criticize individuals for their own actions.

    Not entire groups of people based on generalizations.

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      18 days ago

      Not entire groups of people based on generalizations.

      Depends on the group. If the basis for the group identity is being criticized, that is valid. If there is institutional problems, criticizing the group for being complicit is valid.

      It is only invalid when the criticism is aimed at generalizations that apply to less than half of the group, or are based on inaccurate stereotypes.

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      18 days ago

      You’re right, we should examine each and every single nazi individually - to make sure they’re up to standards. We wouldn’t want to accidentally accuse a swastika-wearing nazi of being a nazi if they’re just not up to the task.

      Oh wait, that’s fucking stupid, and so are you.

      Don’t join hate groups if you don’t want to be associated with that hate group. If you do, you’re part of that group and no amount of ‘i don’t discriminate on generalizations’ is going to get you out of your hate group membership.

      “But I’m one of the good nazis!!!” - eat shit and die.

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        18 days ago

        Oh wait, that’s fucking stupid, and so are you.

        I don’t generally start posts like this, but I feel the line above was my invitation:

        Hey, dumbass. If you would settle down for one minute and think about the words that you’re looking at before you start flipping out on people, you might realize that

        JOINING A NAZI GROUP IS THE ACTION OF AN INDIVIDUAL.

        PARTICIPATING IN A NAZI ACTIVITIES ARE THE ACTIONS OF AN INDIVIDUAL.

        SUPPORTING OR DONATING TO NAZI GROUPS IS AN ACTION OF AN INDIVIDUAL.

        I’m talking about shit like: The Nazis were German, so Germans are Nazis. Israel is committing genocide, so Jews are evil. There was a trans school shooter, so trans people are dangerous.

        Go take all your impotent energy and do something useful instead of blowing up on people who are on the same side as you, you stupid ignorant fuck.

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          18 days ago

          In case you are serious: easy there, tiger.

          The OP was asking about terms like ‘racist’ – not nazi. Yes, anyone walking in a group where there’s a swastiza flag can be appropriately called a nazi because they chose to join in a group with that flag, BUT just because a person is considers themself a ‘conservative’ does not also make them a racist just as being a ‘lefty’ does not make them antisemetic. Maybe they are, but it takes an action or at least a comment – not a general label – to make a judgement.

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            18 days ago

            Wait, what’s the difference between a Nazi and a conservative? That’s a change in degree not in kind.

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                18 days ago

                I am sure many US conservatives would deny this, but they are actively mourning a wanna be Nazi. Also, MAGA is literally a Nazi movement in disguise.

                I would normally agree with you, but I am not so sure anymore.