What if they were selling drugs? What if they were landlords and charged a bit too much? Would you judge then? When will you comment on people’s actions and not just practice fencesitting? Honest question.
Themselves is alright? You have to admit that doing sex work at least comparatively increases the risk of psychological damage, right? A little bit like being on deployment, I guess, to give a non-sexual example. What if a friend started doing coke or went hard in their alcoholism?
This is most often used against people asking in good faith in my experience than those who just want to troll people. In this case, the sealion is actually being perfectly acceptable, the first person doesn’t get to slander a group of people without defending their slander to said group of people.
Everything with a moral component can be judged. You can judge it entirely positively. That person decided not to comment (on anything, actually, because “it’s not his life”, as if that meant anything besides the obvious truth that everyone has their own lives, lol), I feel like my reply follows!
Does being a janitor have a moral component? Must we decide whether or not to celebrate or condemn janitors, or would it be acceptable to just consider it a job?
Of course it does. Things are dirty and people need to clean them, people like clean spaces invariably, wouldn’t we both say it’s a net positive for society? The worst of janitors is the one keeping things tidy in the CIA offices for instance, letting these monsters cook their next psy-op, lol, but even then their impact is negligible in the success of the war machine. When it comes to themselves, as long as they’re protected from dangerous materials, they should be fine physically. Is it harmful for their psyche to clean? Maybe without good music 🤷 but not as much as opening your legs to random men who use you basically as a disposable masturbatory aid several times a day. Breaking the link between love, commitment and sex is not just a big taboo, but it’s (more importantly) psychologically damaging, and whatever ideology you have to create to stomach it (plus whatever bad habits regarding substances you might have developed trying to cope with it all) will have to be disposed of before developing an actual connection with another human being/re-entering society. You can’t get there just by sweeping floors, and to even mention otherwise is either foolish or a statement made in bad faith, but I entertained it because it could be the former.
Listen, besides the fact that it’s just ‘socially transgressive’, the biggest sin behind prostitution is the sin of self-harm. That’s all. Morally, if we’re discussing the global ramifications of ones actions, it’s way better to be a prostitute with 50 clients a day for years (as long as you’re clean, ofc) than an IDF soldier for one day, or even an investment banker. But to say self-harm is okay because “their body, their rules” and it makes them money is a product of moral relativity and ideological confusion.
You need to balance the harm caused by allowing people to engage in self-harm with the harm imposed by removing someone’s freedom of choice. If God Himself thought it was important for us to have free will, what right do you or I have to remove it?
Nothing, it is their life and not my place to judge.
What if they were selling drugs? What if they were landlords and charged a bit too much? Would you judge then? When will you comment on people’s actions and not just practice fencesitting? Honest question.
Personally, when their actions start harming others.
Themselves is alright? You have to admit that doing sex work at least comparatively increases the risk of psychological damage, right? A little bit like being on deployment, I guess, to give a non-sexual example. What if a friend started doing coke or went hard in their alcoholism?
This is most often used against people asking in good faith in my experience than those who just want to troll people. In this case, the sealion is actually being perfectly acceptable, the first person doesn’t get to slander a group of people without defending their slander to said group of people.
I identify but I’d like to believe I’m not just ‘barging into people’s homes’ and being disruptive since this is an online discussion space. 😅
They aren’t fence sitting at all. They made their choice to not judge someone for doing sex work. Why does that upset you so much?
Maybe they would judge someone for the other things, but that hadn’t been asked yet.
Everything with a moral component can be judged. You can judge it entirely positively. That person decided not to comment (on anything, actually, because “it’s not his life”, as if that meant anything besides the obvious truth that everyone has their own lives, lol), I feel like my reply follows!
Does being a janitor have a moral component? Must we decide whether or not to celebrate or condemn janitors, or would it be acceptable to just consider it a job?
Of course it does. Things are dirty and people need to clean them, people like clean spaces invariably, wouldn’t we both say it’s a net positive for society? The worst of janitors is the one keeping things tidy in the CIA offices for instance, letting these monsters cook their next psy-op, lol, but even then their impact is negligible in the success of the war machine. When it comes to themselves, as long as they’re protected from dangerous materials, they should be fine physically. Is it harmful for their psyche to clean? Maybe without good music 🤷 but not as much as opening your legs to random men who use you basically as a disposable masturbatory aid several times a day. Breaking the link between love, commitment and sex is not just a big taboo, but it’s (more importantly) psychologically damaging, and whatever ideology you have to create to stomach it (plus whatever bad habits regarding substances you might have developed trying to cope with it all) will have to be disposed of before developing an actual connection with another human being/re-entering society. You can’t get there just by sweeping floors, and to even mention otherwise is either foolish or a statement made in bad faith, but I entertained it because it could be the former.
Listen, besides the fact that it’s just ‘socially transgressive’, the biggest sin behind prostitution is the sin of self-harm. That’s all. Morally, if we’re discussing the global ramifications of ones actions, it’s way better to be a prostitute with 50 clients a day for years (as long as you’re clean, ofc) than an IDF soldier for one day, or even an investment banker. But to say self-harm is okay because “their body, their rules” and it makes them money is a product of moral relativity and ideological confusion.
You need to balance the harm caused by allowing people to engage in self-harm with the harm imposed by removing someone’s freedom of choice. If God Himself thought it was important for us to have free will, what right do you or I have to remove it?