• WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.worldEnglish
        101·
        23 days ago

        I’ve been lurking reddit lately, to see what propaganda the normies in the US are exposed to, and I found this thread fucking hilarious.

        Every comment is complaining about how this will be the death of reddit. None of them realize Reddit already died years ago, and they’re just getting high off the ashes.

        • PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world
          92·
          22 days ago

          Using “normies” unironically is one of the reasons Lemmy is a huge turn off. Normal people don’t talk like that, and it makes you look stuck up.

        • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          21 days ago

          that sub used to be good, til it got astroturfed during the election month, its more or less a politics clone sub, with a hint of tech whining. i got “reported” for reporting too much people. trying to eliminate the spam on your sub.

      • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        21 days ago

        no wonder they wanted api gone as well, it allowed people to ban evade, since its not using the site directly.

      • Pamasich@kbin.earth
        0·
        22 days ago

        This really isn’t true. Specific subreddits do, because their mods want to buddy up to the admins. With OP’s search settings, I do get one of the posts they got (only one though), and most of the results are drowned out by posts about some guy called Lemmy. But sorting by New, there’s plenty of results even from today and the past week. Subreddits announcing their fallback instance, a canadian subreddit discovering lemmy.ca, people asking questions about Lemmy. Lemmy-specific subreddits also show up without a problem. And everything I saw, except for that one post from OP’s image, was positive about it.

        I think people who have fully left Reddit are falling for confirmation bias when they hear that a post got removed for mentioning Lemmy. While plenty are still up despite doing the same. It’s either because of the other contents of the post, or because of the subreddit it was posted in. If it was about promoting Lemmy alone, all posts that promote Lemmy would be gone, which isn’t the case.

        • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          21 days ago

          i had heard in a forum site that there was a mod that knows reddit admins, a direct line of communication to them, and he was discussing the levels of shadowbanning tiers. apparently shadow bans has tiers, 4 and 5 being the lowest, and its considered a temp “ban” while one is for the botters/evaders who make multiple accounts, which is usually 1 year to a perma ban. and ban filters, are supposed to have 1 year limit for the most severe, ban evaders, but they seem to have changed it this year.

          also the most annoying this, is mods can crossban you for just visiting a controversial sub.

    • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
      5·
      23 days ago

      Search manipulation or just shitty Reddit search?

      Google search for “lemmy” site:reddit.com/r/redditalternatives provides different top results:

      https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/18x59m7/its_time_to_admit_lemmy_has_won_the_the_biggest/

      https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/151v9vo/lemmy_explained_in_a_nutshell/

      https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/14ier24/for_anyone_wondering_how_lemmy_works_and_is/

      • skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de
        111·
        23 days ago

        they made a post, got tons of downvotes, then complained about downvotes which also got downvoted, got caught by automod because of downvotes, appealed, got unbanned, then deleted account or got purged because nothing even shows in modlog. the account was on sjw, posts were to communities in .ml and lw

        • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          21 days ago

          sounds like shadowbanned. if you search for the user/(account name) it will tell if the user is suspended, doesnt exist(shadowbanned), even deleted accounts. i checked it that way and it says acct has been deleted.

      • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
        0·
        22 days ago

        this is my first acc on lemmy, i had no idea that was a seperate login. whats ML?

        • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          21 days ago

          same here, i thought i had my account details wrong because i dint know i was trying to login to ML, apparenlty theres a lemmy.world too, same issue.

    • zephorah@lemm.ee
      21·
      23 days ago

      Possibly landed in Hexbear. In combination with Spaz’s purge of all things Lemmy encouraging.

    • 3dmvr@lemm.eeEnglish
      1·
      23 days ago

      Its 100% on purpose, those arent the most relevant or highest rated posts, cherrypicked

      • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        21 days ago

        they went after the OF accts recently, if people wanted OF porn, they go to non-PH and thier affiliate sites.

    • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      0·
      22 days ago

      Hell yeah! Consider sticking around for a bit. Don’t forget that you have the power to block individuals, communities, and even entire instances if you’re having a bad time. Not sure if reddit gives you all that power, but it has its uses!

      • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        21 days ago

        you can block invididuals, and turn off replies, but its often not effective, because if you go back to the orignal convo you blocked, you can see them bitching that you blocked them, oh and they created another account so they can evade your own block(since they cant join your convo thread in a subreddit. often times they will retaliate by reporting you for blocking them. and risking reporting them, can put you at odds with a mod, say you cant make too many reports.

      • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
        0·
        22 days ago

        Not sure if reddit gives you all that power

        It does not. Was one of the reasons that I abandoned it when they blocked third party clients. I resent being forced to view right-wing propaganda, rage-bait, and ads as well as being forced to short by opaque algorithms that are clearly intended to manipulate.

        • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
          2·
          21 days ago

          same, reddit is slowly turning into FB, with all the right wing narratives, 90% of the post is about trump, its the same thing MSMs did to get him into the WH. while it maybe “center right” it mostly gives avenues for right wingers to “see what we told you guys”, i pointed that out on many subs. people are just lapping all the bs thats comes out, liek trump did this goof, like it matters. despite them being critical of trump, it actually gives 24/7 coverage outside of X and MSMs.

  • capybara@lemm.eeEnglish
    28·
    21 days ago

    Both of these posts are complaining about their accounts being banned, which happened because they (at least one of them) posted low effort questions and therefore got lots of downvotes and got automatically banned by a system meant to ban bots and trolls. The irony is that reddit has major problems with their automatic moderation which you yourself as an user is completely powerless to controll, e.g. recently when a massive amount of nsfw subreddits were banned for being unmoderated which they later admitted was erroneous.

    • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
      4·
      21 days ago

      i doubt it was error on thier part, the subs happened to be the ones about trans and lgbt, and narcissim therapy , and around the time musk complained about whitepeople twitter. why only those and non of the controversial oens.

    • reksas@sopuli.xyz
      1·
      21 days ago

      content of the post doesn’t matter. So many only read the headline. But maybe it will make those who have some critical thinking skills question why lemmy is so “vile” and go take a look.

  • TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world
    262·
    23 days ago

    I don’t get the hate this place gets. It’s been really interesting watching Lemmy’s growing pains over the last two-ish years and all the changes it has undergone. The whole concept of the Fediverse is fascinating to me and has been a genuine delight to explore.

    • murmelade@lemmy.mlEnglish
      5·
      23 days ago

      Agreed. I never even had Instagram or twitter but I’ve become a pixelfed and mastodon lurker after enjoying Lemmy for 1+ years. The comment section here is miles ahead of reddit, where you get repost after repost and the same old tired jokes in every comment section.
      The fediverse is fantastic and I’m happy to be a (very minor) part of it.

      • TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world
        8·
        23 days ago

        I’m almost 40, this place reminds me of the early internet in a good way. Like, people connecting and sharing ideas… what even Reddit used to feel like. Sure, sometimes there are arguments but, due to the lack of an “outage” algorithm to juice engagement, you usually only hear about it unless it’s something you directly follow. With the lack of profit motive on the side of the platform and hosting end of things, it appears that trolls and clout chasers have a genuine hard time monopolizing everyone’s attention.

        • AoxoMoxoA@lemmy.world
          1·
          22 days ago

          I’m a little older and while all my buddies were on the internet in the early days it didn’t interest me but I was well aware of how it functioned.

          I was a reddit lurker back when it was cool and a place to gain knowledge (depending on the sub) then a few years back finally becoming a user until the last couple years seeing it really go down hill fast turning into a typical " social media platform"

          Leemy gives me a sense of nostalgia for something I missed out on in the past. …And I don’t feel like an asshole scrolling in my spare time

      • TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world
        01·
        22 days ago

        I haven’t really seen it outside of the like normal levels of hate. Which subLemmys or whatever are you seeing it on?

    • Psythik@lemm.ee
      59·
      22 days ago

      I blame Tankies. They’re too aggressive with their “liberals this, liberals that” bullshit, which drives a way a lot of people cause that makes Lemmy look like a MAGA-infested shithole to anyone who doesn’t know what a Tankie this.

      Hexbear and LemmyGrad’s bullshit almost made me quit Lemmy day one, until I learned how instances work and how to block them. I imagine that less-determined redditors will take one look at this place, see a liberal-bashing post, and then immediately fuck off.

      I wish Tankies would just stay in their own god damn space, and keep their bootlicking politics to themselves. They’re ruining Lemmy.

          • AquaTofana@lemmy.world
            1·
            22 days ago

            I mean, tbf, joining the military IS what made me start looking into the concept of Socialism and what it means.

            Is the military socialism? No, us Enlisted have no power and the Officer corps is the “owning class”, but we have good, tax payer funded social benefits that I believe everyone should have access to.

            It’s like a gateway drug into anti-capitalism idealogies. If the US is never going to go full socialist (or at least not in our lifetimes), then I think raising taxes and giving everyone TRICARE, VA Loan benefits, tuition assistance, and a pension will go a long way in solving most people’s biggest fears/relieving a metric fuckton of oppression caused by capitalism.

            Also, having been to the Middle East and seen firsthand the stark difference of people driving around Ducatis and Lambos, parking in front malls inlaid with real gold, while 10 minutes up the road whole communities had built their shack homes in the desert with random odds and ends and thrown blankets over their windows was…I cant really describe the feeling I got. Dread, anger, immense sadness, just a whole myriad of negative emotions. Couple that with the intense religious fervor that is rampant in the region, and yeah, I have no idea how a military member can look at all that and be like “This. This is what America needs.”

            Granted, yes, unfortunately a lot of our service men and women are still unfortunately extremely pro-Capitalism/Trump and Elon Musk fanboys…I just don’t know how.

            Either way, my comment got long, but when people start in on the “The Army is Socialist!” Dont be mad. Educate! They’re at the very least coming from a place of “Fuck, we really could make everyones lives better if we give everyone these benefits that we enjoy so much!” And that shows compassion for others, which is something so fucking desperately needed right now.

              • AquaTofana@lemmy.world
                1·
                22 days ago

                Oh I believe that 100%!

                I suppose I’m a little more patient with it because I went through the same change myself, AND because I like people (finally) pointing out that we do have a system for socialized healthcare in America!

      • Iceman@lemmy.worldEnglish
        21·
        22 days ago

        I blame the anti-tankies. Like this is the only site i even see the termed even used and it looks like a weird hysteria for most. The community is already smal so it looks relay wired. Even this whinny attitude of blocking every one on this tiny space give real off vibes.

      • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        22 days ago

        they already have thier safe spaces on r/consevative, conspiracy, and trueunpopular opinon, but they whine on other subs that th ey are still get censored, or the so-called left is in an echo-chamber ever since trump won. even though those sub is mostly run by russian state owned bot system.

      • Guidy@lemmy.worldEnglish
        01·
        22 days ago

        Can confirm - I’m new here and when I see pieces of shit who’d be right at home amongst the people my grandfather killed in WWII (AKA nazis) it doesn’t make me more interested in sticking around. At this point IDGAF why they think they way they think, they can fuck off into the sun. At some point I’ll see whatever blocking thing there is and it will get better. Still an improvement over reddit.

  • redsparks2025@lemmy.world
    16·
    22 days ago

    I’ve noticed a rise of Bot Moderators on reddit and their AI is not very good. They pick up on certain words and not context. One banned me for 3 days for harassment but I was defending myself against someone that was being antagonistic against me. My appeal was rejected :(

    • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
      4·
      21 days ago

      i got temp ban, because i reported too much, and or people they dint want me reporting. oh when you get temp ban/perma ban, if the same sub sees you again, even if your ban was lifted, it bans you again because it assumes your evading(it doesnt clear when your ban gets lifted in some cases)

    • Lazylazycat@lemmy.world
      1·
      22 days ago

      It’s likely just keywords. I had a similar thing when the comment I left was quite clearly sarcasm. I messaged the mods and they said their automod couldn’t differentiate between sarcasm and ernest, and tough luck 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • kratoz29@lemm.eeEnglish
    10·
    23 days ago

    This is some cope mechanism or some Stockholm syndrome right there.

  • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
    101·
    22 days ago

    My beef with Lemmy:

    • It’s weighted towards politics
    • Not a lot of niche sub critical mass yet (though this is not its fault at all)
    • But holy moly, it’s a political purity test! Like, I think of myself as pretty socialist, way far off center, but I feel totally alone veering off certain topics or even acknowledging certain things! I’m (mostly) not getting banned, and I am not leaving, but still.
    • ad_on_is@lemm.eeEnglish
      2·
      21 days ago

      Lucky you… I managed to get banned once, for not being “left” enough. So I just don’t engage in specific kind of topics anymore.

      • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
        1·
        21 days ago

        I’ve gotten banned somewhere for ostensibly malicious ninja editing, can’t even remember the community, but I do remember the topic. I dared clarify some factual thing.

        But it wasn’t part of a particular bandwagon of hate, so no dice.

    • feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world
      2·
      22 days ago

      I got banned from the Star Trek Memes sub, or something, for very mild trolling. I don’t even remember what earned it, I think I said I can’t get my head around an animated Star Trek and can’t accept it as canon or something, and then the trolling was just me doubling down on that opinion (which is an actual opinion). People do love their fandoms.

      • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
        3·
        21 days ago

        star trek is wierd, theres like 2 types of fans, the old trek and the nutrek crowd, the nutrek crowd is wierd becuase the series that came out since 09 sucks balls.

      • PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world
        2·
        22 days ago

        I had my comments deleted by some authoritarian nerd mod on one of those star trek communities for shitting on Discovery. Apparently, by having a negative opinion, I wasnt creating a welcoming atmosphere.

        • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
          3·
          21 days ago

          STD was such a garbage show, how did people find it good also there were continuity problems too , kurtzman abandoned the klingons look, and thier cloak behind, because he couldnt explain it.

          • PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world
            2·
            21 days ago

            If memory serves, there was an episode, when they were in the 32nd century, where they said they couldn’t jump (spore drive) while cloaked. Then, in the same episode (or one soon after) they did exactly that. Can’t even follow their own rules because the show is a joke to them.

            But apparently in some spaces all opinions must be positive ones.

        • spill_scouring@lemmy.ca
          1·
          21 days ago

          Apparently, by having a negative opinion, I wasnt creating a welcoming atmosphere.

          Jeez, some mods have never heard of the concept of toxic positivity

        • pulsewidth@lemmy.world
          1·
          21 days ago

          Ah, just what the Federation would aspire to: the silencing of any critical thought by undemocratically-installed secret leaders. Really does seem like the mod is a fan of NuTrek retcons.

          (Secret because the mod log is usually obfuscated to users, so they don’t even know which mod deleted their comment to appeal the decision)

    • nerv@lemmynsfw.com
      1·
      22 days ago

      It’s expected. Right now, it is becoming a safe space for political dissidence. As sentiment pools and gathers mass, things tend to get towards the polar opposites and revolt breeds more revolt. Anything less than total agreement is viewed sideways.

    • CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works
      21·
      22 days ago

      But holy moly, it’s a political purity test! Like, I think of myself as pretty socialist, way far off center, but I feel totally alone veering off certain topics or even acknowledging certain things! I’m (mostly) not getting banned, and I am not leaving, but still.

      I saw people advocating for damaging people’s Teslas and it was fucking stupid. Beyond the fact that many people are not in a position where they can just get rid of a car over political reasons, it is likely many or even the majority of Tesla owners do not vote Republican (conservatives have been much slower to adopt EVs): you’re very likely going to damage vehicles owned by totally innocent people.

      I own a non-Tesla EV but either way it would be excessively expensive to switch to another car on a whim, and I sure as hell am not going to deprive my family just because seeing my car’s brand hurts people’s feelings.

      • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        21 days ago

        that part is wierd, conservatives dont own EVS, PERIOD fox has been telling how evs are a }pansy liberal thing", cybertruck is anomaly though.

      • Lvdwsn@lemmy.world
        0·
        22 days ago

        Agree with the sentiment, I feel like cybertrucks deserve an exemption though, agree or disagree?

          • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
            1·
            21 days ago

            or it can damage you by slicing you in two, i heard one instantly cut a deer in half when it crashed into one.

        • CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works
          01·
          22 days ago

          If this is your form of protest at least target someone who has materially contributed to this state of affairs, and by that I don’t mean random Republican voters.

          • pulsewidth@lemmy.world
            21·
            21 days ago

            People who have materially contributed to this state of affairs Republican voters

            This Venn diagram is a circle.

    • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
      1·
      22 days ago

      It’s scary until you notice you don’t get banned for disagreeing & challenging their dumbassery (as long as you follow the rules), unlike reddit where the slightest wrong move & it’s BAN BAN BAN. Fuck that place.

      It also helps to check which instance a post comes from & adjust your expectations accordingly.

      • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        21 days ago

        currently on reddit the slightest misconstrued of your comment will get you banned, my favorite is always “harassment and hate”. i was in the gym sub, and someone qouted machelenny as someone “that naturally achieved that look” from isaip, and responded with "roids and juiced up. instant ban, and you contact the mods for a whole month.

        • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
          1·
          21 days ago

          To compound the situation, the reporting process against moderators is hidden from view & a joke, and they practically prohibit any place to openly share notes on bad moderators, so users can’t collectively gather compelling evidence, organize, and condemn bad moderators.

          Moderator Code of Conduct: Rule 3:

          As a moderator, you cannot interfere with or disrupt Reddit communities, nor can you facilitate, encourage, coordinate, or enable members of your community to do this.

          Interference includes:

          • Enabling or encouraging content that showcases when users are banned or actioned in other communities, with the intent to incite a negative reaction.

          Again, fuck that place.

    • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
      1·
      22 days ago

      I feel like 3 kinda comes with the territory of politics. The sort of people who mod political forums have more rigid ideas of what ideas should prevail in the discourse than someone modding a board for embedded electronics, not that that’s an inherently bad thing.

      It just feels worse because a greater portion of Lemmy is politics; here I’ve caught bans for being insufficiently pro-Kamala months after the election or not going along with a china bad circlejerk, but at reddit people catch bans for “John Brown did nothing wrong” or just posting footage from Palestine.

      • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
        3·
        21 days ago

        the gaza/palestine thing is very tricky, many of the subs have been infiltrated by pro-israeli mods, early on the war, they were spamming “jews are doing nothing wrong, if we jews dont destroy them they will destroy us”, i pointed out in one, where the war was instigated and started by the same person who is keeping himself out of jail in israel.

        • Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
          1·
          21 days ago

          Pro-zionist sentiment was definitely prevalent on here following Oct 7th. It took many months for anti-zionist sentiment to outpace it, thanks to many people debunking their misinformation and sharing articles that showed the reality that most Western Media downplayed if not ignored

          On places like reddit, we mostly continue to see more and more banning of anything anti-zionist. r/Palestine might be the only place left that isn’t aggressively pro-zionist on there

      • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
        1·
        22 days ago

        Yeah. To be clear, I don’t feel “persecuted” by the administration, just the community. That’s a very important difference.

    • jamie_oliver@lemmy.world
      0·
      22 days ago

      For the moment, I just don’t engage in political discussion on Lemmy. It is way to extreme for me in general. It makes sense tho that those who don’t feel their opinions fit anywhere else (or get them banned etc.) gather in a place that allows for freer discussion, which I think is a good thing really.

      And also just posting about niche music makes me happier than getting angry online so… That’s been a good motivation.

      • reksas@sopuli.xyz
        2·
        21 days ago

        frankly, lemmy is literally only place I have found where you can discuss politics reasonably. I also try to rid myself of any pride about being right about anything and actually look forward to being called out if someone thinks i’m wrong. Then I can take a look at what they say and adjust my own opinions if the other guy makes sense.

        Though i dont go to .ml, they seem more interested in witch hunts than making anything better.

      • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        21 days ago

        in reddit you have to walk on eggshells when your in those subs, even if your “agreeing with everyone else”, one simple misconstruement will get you banned.

    • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
      01·
      22 days ago

      Lemmy Leftists feel like that old Emo Philips joke at times.

      Apparently anyone not wanting to live in a grey soviet tower block and have all their worldly possessions be redistributed by the state is a “fucking Lib”

    • burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world
      01·
      22 days ago

      i argue that there arent really any niche communities. if I see a site with slow and limited posts, and 0 comments on most of those posts, can I really call that a community? i like video games and furry stuff. the video game and furry stuff sites have next to nothing on them. apparently the only ‘geeks’ here are Linux users who only talk about Linux distros or tankies who hate everyone and everything

      • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
        01·
        22 days ago

        Agreed.

        I need to force myself to post/comment more in these subs though. Like I am trying to keep an eye on /c/thelastairbender for instance, but there are more.

    • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
      5·
      22 days ago

      Reddit bailed out people who were unhappy with digg 2.0 then they slowly went all corporate and ended up being the same damn thing.

      I worry that in a couple years time, some corpo will start an instance, hoover up everyone with custom style and features then slowly defederate and leave us undertraveled.

    • irelephant [he/him]🍭@lemm.eeOP
      4·
      22 days ago

      I agree, reddit is so stagnant. I didn’t join in its prime by any means, but the place is so different since 2023. Thats what booting all the competant mods and going public does.

      • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        21 days ago

        seems to be worst now, although i do enjoy nottheonion and some politics.news on occasion it got really tiresome to see it all the time,and the ragebaiting, that you can get potential bans from. you can however filter out problematic subs from appearing on the feed. only works if your in r/all though.