profane language is the word ‘fuck’.
this is not yelling ‘fuck’ at the top of your lungs, but more like ‘aah, fuck’, meaning why do things have to be this complicated? or, why didn’t coworker X did his job as he was supposed to? Why is this documentation not in order?
Have you ever been fired over this? reprimanded at work?
I use ‘fuck’ a lot, not to intimidate anyone, but each time something bothers me, I could as well use ‘come on!!’ but ‘fuck’ comes to me more naturally.
If I get a written warning, is this a reason good enough to start looking for employment elsewhere?
To those of you not in America. Is it different where you are?
I once got fired for changing the title of my personal homepage of our ticketing software to “Fuck this fucking shithole”. Bosses found out when they cloned my account for testing while I was on vacation.
In their defense, it was pretty stupid of me to do that. In my defense, fuck that fucking shithole.
“Fuck” isn’t profane, it’s vulgar. “Goddamn” is profane.
If you’ve been told once and your job hangs in the balance, then perhaps that’s a sign of needlessly strict management, but if I just got a stern “please don’t swear in front of the public” I’d just stop swearing.
Learn to code switch better. Profanity is almost never useful in a professional environment.
Never hurts either
It absolutely can lead to people treating you poorly, so yes it can hurt you if you do it.
Not using profanity doesn’t tend to cause the same issue, even in workplaces where its common.
At my job? No. That would not happen.
And it’s funny you ask about outside the US because the way I learned this was our head of finance in Germany was visiting and as I passed the office where he was I heard him talking and it was just fucking this, fucking that, fuck so many times just in the time it took me to pass the office.
Now should you be cussing out customers? No, of course not. But no one in my office bats an eye and we often hear “what the fuck, Microsoft?!” when something doesn’t work.
I got fired from a print shop job for saying “fuck you” back to the boss after he screamed it at me (and a dozen other people). Fuck him, though. Shop was completely closed 3 months later due to boss man’s ineptitude.
Otherwise, I swear like a fuckin’ sailor and never even got chewed out.
While working in fast food working as a manager I had a store manager that would cuss you out, but one thing I loved about her is I would cuss back and explain myself to which she’d be like “oh, that makes sense.”
“Fuck you: A romantic love story”
It’s a story about power dynamic, and sexual tension in the workplace. When a boss gets frustrated and yells fuck you at a room of employees, one man has the balls to yell fuck you back at him! Then…they start to passionately kiss. Just two straight men, getting caught up in the heat of the moment in a print shop break room.
Suddenly 30 employees were making out with each other. Clothes were coming off, and the man that started it all was now taking his boss from behind and making him his bitch!
…what?
If someone doesn’t understand the difference between swearing at and swearing around, that’s a shitty environment. If I say, “that was a shitty fucking outage” I am using some filler for emphasis so my mouth can catch up to my brain. If I say “you’re a fucking asshole” or “don’t be such a bitch” or “that’s fucking sexy” I am not being professional and I deserve some training on how to not be an ignorant walnut. Even with swearing around, I do think it’s smart to limit yourself to damnation, defecation, and simple fornication rather than gendered swears. There are also some places it’s not wise to swear around, such as client-facing roles because many of the people you will see don’t understand that swearing around is not swearing at.
I once lost a job after the onsite interview. I wait to swear until I I hear them swear. Apparently my use of “fuck” meant I was going to blow up and be a terrible person to my peers. Two years later I started running a department doing the thing I was interviewing for and my staff tends to be fiercely loyal. I’d argue my swearing speaks for itself and have shaped my professional attitude toward swearing around around this experience.
I work in tech and I’m quick to police my language if necessary. I’m also concerned about relative comfort (eg I try really hard not to blaspheme around some Christian peers). I do not swear at people. I do not work in a super corporate environment. YMMV.
I like study (you can find the full article online) and I think there’s been more research down this path in the years since.
If someone doesn’t understand the difference between swearing at and swearing around, that’s a shitty environment.
In one of my better workplaces, the expression was “you can cuss the hardware, you can cuss the software, but don’t cuss your teammate.”
Can I cuss the software for being terrible and then
git blame
in silence right after?As is tradition.
I’ve gotten a comment in my annual review, but I don’t think it impacted by bottom line score. And tbf, I was swearing in front of clients, in an industry where a bit more professionalism is the norm.
First I was asked politely to not swear, even if I was not a customer facing employee.
Second time I was cautioned was because I’d switched to swearing in another language. Manager thought it was hilarious, but they still knew I was swearing.
I spent the next five years being increasingly creative with how I swore. A temporary (and loud) revert to English swearing when I was in a workplace accident was kindly ignored due to circumstance.
There was no third warning.
I have avoided that so far but I have had a few faa’s and shii’s and such where I stopped myself.
I curse all the time and once I’ve even said “you’re a dickhead” to the boss. Nobody cares
lucky you
Haha yes. Normally I don’t swear at work. After college my first job was as a women’s shoe salesmen at Macy’s. I’m a terrible salesman but whatever. Around one of the holidays I was closing and we had one or two callouts so I was all alone and we were slammed. I had one guy, I wonder if he was a company exec, wander by at one point and say to me that the area was embarrassing and I should be ashamed or something to that effect. But the all of the customers left I did my best but couldn’t clean up all of the shoes before the store closed. I left a note that said sorry for the clusterfuck on the register. Well the store manager had to open I think because of a callout again and saw the note. I got a minor reprimand, and she said she was surprised to learn I was the one who wrote the note heh. Ended up getting fired later, but that was because of my undiagnosed a at the time adhd and often being late
I once described a rather sharp bit of cold weather to my boss by explaining that I was “shaking like a shitting dog”. He merely agreed.
It was a fucker that day, mind you.
the profanity flies frequently at my place of work. we do give writeups if our employees are saying that in front of customers.
except for me, because I don’t curse (out loud). in fact if I start doing it everyone around me would actually be worried if I was okay.
I build fences. 3 out of 4 words is fuck.