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    We informed the parent that documentation such as a chromosome analysis could be considered to help support or verify eligibility in accordance with policy.

    I cannot imagine being the dumbass who said that with a straight face.

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      I don’t understand why it’s the school asking for this and not whoever updated the birth certificate? How did school administrators become the judges of who is a boy or girl?

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        My (cis female) birth certificate erroneously was filled out with “male”. Same error happened on the birth certificate of my mother (who is also cis female). It’s never caused either of us any problems. Schools enrolled us as female, driver’s licenses say female, etc.

        When I was in college in the early 2000s, my dad’s mother helped me get a copy of my birth certificate, and was horrified her beautiful granddaughter was listed as male. She called up the county clerk and raised Cain, and then informed me it had been corrected. I’ve never needed to get a fresh copy since then, so I don’t know for sure, but it sounded like the word of an angry old lady was enough to get an update filed.

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          Angry old ladies are the single scariest force on the planet.

          Because if you make one angry, then you have to answer to all of their friends, family, caretakers, religious leaders, and bingo dealers.

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            They are also the reason why we are in this situation in the first play. Angry old lady energy serves both justice and tyranny.

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          My (cis female) birth certificate erroneously was filled out with “male”. Same error happened on the birth certificate of my mother (who is also cis female).

          Do they use drunkards to fill out important registration forms in the US?

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            There’s something like thirty boxes of information on the thing, and all the others are correct. I suspect whoever was typing it (on a typewriter - this was pre-computers) had several in a row that really were male babies and just got that stuck in their head.

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        Because their the ones who will be prosecuted under the law if they allow a kid to play on the wrong team.

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        From reading the articles about this: The birth certificate was already updated, no problem. The school, however, has its internal policy regarding “amended birth certificates”. The school policy says this boy is to be treated as a girl, because his sex is F. It doesn’t go any deeper than that. This is the hell of bureaucracy.

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          Even according to their own policy they’re not fully treating him as a girl - why is it mandated for him to be using a personal changing room if he is a girl?

          This is essentially a contradiction, solely manufactured to alienate him.

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            Political absurdity aside, I feel really bad for this boy. Middle school is already a peak time of insecurity and tension, and the USA gets worse for everyone every year. Imagine being 14 years old, feeling like your entire town and nation is out to get you, and being right. This is going to be identity-defining trauma that gets regularly brought up by people who think they’re just joking around with the “girls’ basketball team” guy.

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            It’s so they don’t “lose” in this case and acknowledge it’s stupid because then people might realize it’s stupid in general. They think tormenting this one cis kid is worth it to keep even a single real trans person out of sports because they think it will open the floodgates. That and there’s a decent chance the school administrators legitimately think this kid is trans and part of a massive conspiracy against their school because that’s where we’re at

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              It’s probably the latter. 98% of Republicans know they’re making shit up when they say “Democrats are baby-eating Satanists” and talk about “Cultural Marxism” and the “Liberal Agenda” – but their supporters genuinely believe it. See: PizzaGate. Someone actually broke into Comet Ping Pong to save the victims of the supposed “sex trafficking” ring.

              That’s why the majority of Republicans say such over-the-top absurd meaningless nonsense, when most of them are well-educated by USA standards. (the rest of Republicans, like Marjorie Taylor Greene, seem genuine in their stupidity.)

              The school administration is likely a mix of paper-pushers doing bureaucratic cover-your-ass paper-pushing, led by a few zealots who think they’re on the front against the liberal agenda.

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      Did anyone inform the administration that documentation such as chromosome analysis could be considered to help support or verify eligibility in participating with the human race? Because it seems like they might be a slime mold, based on their integrity and decision-making ability.

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      Feels like malicious compliance to me. But who knows.

      Edit: For those downvoting, someone else in the comments pasted a quote about a law that was passed in that state. So I was just speculating that maybe they were maliciously complying to show how ridiculous it is.

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    The principal really needs to read the law. This school is so fucked.

    https://codes.findlaw.com/az/title-15-education/az-rev-st-sect-15-120-02/

    The law in question only prohibits biological males from participating in female sports. It does not prohibit females from joining boys teams. Compare and contrast sections “B” and “C”:

    B. Athletic teams or sports designated for “females”, “women” or “girls” may not be open to students of the male sex.

    C. This section does not restrict the eligibility of any student to participate in any interscholastic or intramural athletic team or sport designated as being for “males”, “men” or “boys” or designated as “coed” or “mixed”.

    I also thought this was pretty interesting:

    E. Any student who is deprived of an athletic opportunity or suffers any direct or indirect harm as a result of a school knowingly violating this section has a private cause of action for injunctive relief, damages and any other relief available under law against the school.

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      This is literally one of these first things they teach in a (at least NY public high schools) coaching course.

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      The law in question only prohibits biological males from participating in female sports. It does not prohibit females from joining boys teams.

      There’s a simple reason for that - the second sentence is required under current interpretations of Title IX, while the first is not. The argument for that is about girl’s sports being a sort of protected space for girls, so it’s OK to bar non-girls (however your jurisdiction chooses to define that) from girls sports, but “boys” sports are actually for everyone who can compete.

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      That’s beginning to feel like an understatement. We need a new type of hole to describe just how shit things are. A shit-Mariana Trench country, perhaps.

      • MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip
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        Uranus’s moon Miranda has features called coronae, at least one of which has a depth probably exceeding the Challenger Deep low point of the Mariana Trench - estimated at 10 to 20 kilometers, vs. Challenger Deep’s 10.4 kilometers.

        Alternatively, the Kola Superdeep Borehole SG-3 has a depth of over 12.2 kilometers, also deeper than Challenger Deep.

      • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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        When they did a scan of my colon, they found I had pollips. Thats how we discovered I have cancer.

        Then they cut the pollips off. I imagine that left a hole in the pollip area.

        How about colon pollip hole?

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          No I do, but I live here. I can’t count how many Lemmy.ca folks giving this same type of response.

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            Some Canucks are angry at the aggression showed toward us by your national spokesman.

            I’m sorry they’re representing us so poorly, as they should be better reflecting the lasting hurt from perceived treachery by a friendly nation in a way that’s more informative and less pithy. But this is where we are.

            Remember, too, that our global representative isn’t perfect, but we narrowly missed getting our own absolutely incapable and inappropriate provincialist caricature of leadership, ourselves. I think there’s something in there, too.

            Thanks for understanding. I think this is gonna get more stressful before it gets better, so I’m doubly worried if you’re near a border in a town normally enriched by tourism proceeds.

          • JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca
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            Mainer that chose to join our more sensible brothers to the North. Nothing but glad they would have me. America fucking sucks and living here is starting to suck even as a working class white guy, which is frankly most of my state. Why anyone would think a patriotic thought besides burn it all down at this point is beyond me.

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                I’m still South of the border, I only meant in a digital sense that .ca allowed me to join, partly because they are the closest server to me physically afaik, but mostly that they seem the most level headed of the bunch. Just my opinion. But I would go to quite some lengths to emigrate if I thought it was actually feasible. I’m just a blue collar guy, hardly any savings, and crazy lucky to have convinced the bank and my landlord to sell me the house. I’m pretty stuck here as I see it, but there’s a lot of opportunities to help here too. Off the Internet I really try to moderate the acidity of my opinions, more flies to honey type of shit. /ramble

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    If that were me, I’d start wearing skirts and mascara. Let my nails grow out, tweeze my asshole, shave my treasure trail into a facsimile of a set of ovaries. Pitch my voice up, incorporate the words “bitch” and “tea” into my daily vernacular. Cry after sad movies and even harder after happy ones. Entirely unrelated to the article, btw

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      At that point, don’t you just start using the girls facilities to try and force the issue? The girls would get their parents to complain a “boy” is in their bathrooms and delaying gym by waiting for him to use the locker room. How incredibly asinine that a doctor is not enough to assert the kid’s gender to their administration

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    The district pointed to a state law enacted in 2022, which mandates that school sports teams must be designated “based on the biological sex of the students who participate” in the sport. A federal judge blocked enforcement of that law in 2023, but only against two trans student-athletes who filed suit against it. (An appeals court upheld that injunction last year, and the Supreme Court declined to take up the case this summer.)

    Any chance this is some malicious compliance?

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      It’s really a no win situation though if the boy complies. Newsmax will show footage of a game he plays in as evidence that boys are playing in girls sports, and the idiots who watch will believe it and support even worse politicians and laws.

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      Could be! I was just commenting that the kid could engage in malicious compliance. Let’s see what happens when he exits the girls locker room with wet hair and a towel around his neck.

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      The law in question doesn’t actually mandate that school sports teams must be designated “based on the biological sex of the students who participate” in the sport. If you read the law, it only prohibits biological males from participating in female sports. It does not prohibit biological females from participating in male sports. Quite the contrary, it specifically acknowledges that all students, regardless of sex or gender, are allowed to participate in “boys” sports.

      https://codes.findlaw.com/az/title-15-education/az-rev-st-sect-15-120-02/

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    So after all the hysteria about “biological males” in women’s sports/changing rooms/bathrooms, they have succeeded in forcing a biological male into women’s sports/changing rooms/bathrooms.

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      Just to go full circle on their dumbfuckery, I’d bet that they’ll start advocating for the school to pay to have him transition against his will so his outward appearance will match his birth cert.

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      They’ll be grooming him into a femboy soon enough, y’know, because masculine men should dominate inferior males. Not because they’re gay, or anything.

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        State sponsored thigh highs, mandatory white monster, and full ride scholarships into nuclear engineering and programming!

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    So glad kids can experience political influence in their personal lives. They will learn what needs to burn down.

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    He should slam dunk on those fools. Check and rebound. Can’t take the heat… get out of the way girls.

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    This is the kind of stupid bullshit republicans create because they don’t solve problems they create contraversies in a lab and then when they actually get voted into office to “solve” them they literally do stupid shit like this.

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    Your gender is what you declare
    Your gender is what’s in your pants
    Your gender is what I declare

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      Finally something all of us can get behind, am I right fellow "DROP TABLE"s?

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    On one hand, poor guy. On the other, if he’s any good the girls’ team is going to sweep whatever competitions they enter.

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      He should play on all the girls teams, crush it like a total badass, then when conservative parents complain that “a boy is playing on the girls team” everyone can tell them to shut the fuck up because this is the future they always wanted. One with no exceptions or grey areas to speak of.

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        You say this like conssrvatives would even grasp the facts that they did this. You’re talking about the same group who claims to live their life based on the teachings of Jesus, who cared for all, even the misfortunate. Then they turn around and cheer the dismantling of snap and medicaid with zero irony that it’s what Jesus would want.

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        He should play on all the girls teams, crush it like a total badass, then when conservative parents complain that “a boy is playing on the girls team” everyone can tell them to shut the fuck up because this is the future they always wanted.

        He would be killed for doing this.

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      It would be pure awesome if he got out there and kicked ass. Teenage me would have fucking run with this whole mess.

      “Oh no! PLEASE don’t make me hang out with the cute athletic girls! PLEASE don’t make me share their locker room!”

      Kid should waltz into the locker room, casually strip down and shower. Can you imagine the howls of outrage?! Preface the act by telling the girls his plan so none feel harassed. They can all be turned around on the other end of the room, waiting outside, whatever, the perception and headlines are all that counts.

      If you get down to it, he only need walk out with wet hair and have the girls scream and point. God I would have had a blast fucking the administration over.

      And just what would the school system do about it? “You told me I’m a girl so I’m acting accordingly. Suck it.”

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      Last year, Laker reportedly won a conference championship for the wrestling team at the school.

      I wouldn’t blame him if he doesn’t compete feeling that it’s unfair for everyone else.