• BanMe@lemmy.world
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          Religion was used to justify it, and it was used to make the slaves more docile as well. Double edged sword. But then it turned to a source of strength as they emancipated.

          It’s complex. Humans are not going to give up religion, they’re just not. We should work to make the religions better if we want things to get better, and that means supporting the good religious people so they can affect change.

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    They wouldn’t know “gods plan” if it smacked them in the ass. They’re literally worshipping the closest analogue to the Antichrist. These people are violently clueless.

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      “God’s plan” is literally whatever is happening right now. Got in a car crash? God’s plan. Narrowly missed a car crash? God’s plan. Cat wakes you at 6am for breakfast? God’s plan. This whole comment? God’s plan.

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        My thoughts exactly. It’s a clickbait headline targeted at anyone who doesn’t realize that a third of people believe literally everything is “god’s plan.”

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        His plan sucks because he made Pedos billionaires. Wait, god might he a pedo. It’s his plan afterall. Always watching you like a creep. Dude fits pedo logic 100%. Worshiping pedos, sounds on track for religious nutts.

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          Lol, like that billion actually matters when they stand in judgement.

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                Wikipedia is using the pseudepigraphal gospel attributed to James as a source. This had been identified by Origen as a forgery and it doesn’t constitute Christian doctrine. Although it does influence Christian tradition a lot. It also cites Jewish custom, where girls are eligible to marry at age 13 (which actually contradicts the infancy gospel of James, which states she was 12)

                It’s not really reliable and definitely not Christian doctrine.

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                  Do you think there’s a more accurate determination of a teenager’s exact age two thousand years ago?

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      This. Trump literally fits the description of an “antichrist” (lowercase; one of a type) and many of the traits of the definite article (the specific Antichrist) described in the Bible.

      But then they’re not expecting to be the ones deceived by an antichrist.

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        Even if he’s the antichrist, it’s still God’s plan by definition of the term “God” literally. The only question is if God exists or not. Or for me the question rather is if God’s existence matters or not.

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          I’d suggest it depends on whether one assumes we have free will or not.

          My understanding of the Bible is that humanity has free will and so there are lots of things that happen that technically aren’t God’s will or plan (e.g. John 3:16 is pretty well known as mentioning God not wanting anyone to perish but for everyone to have eternal life, but then there’s also the Great White Throne Judgement in Revelation where there are definitely some who are cast into the Lake of Fire - the second death). There’s a good argument to be made as well for the prophetic parts of the Bible not being “God’s will” but simply the result of Him being outside time and space and hence knowing what the result of humanity’s free will will be.

          So no, I don’t think the Antichrist is part of God’s plan per se; rather, God knows there will be an Antichrist and that’s given as a warning so people 1) aren’t deceived by him and 2) know that God can handle him (in Revelation it ends badly for the Antichrist).

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            Makes sense somehow but then God isn’t omnipotent and/or all loving so looks like a contradiction to me. Or maybe he just gave up on humanity?

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              I guess that depends on how you define those terms - being omnipotent wouldn’t necessarily require the exercise of that power, whilst “all-loving” would depend on whether you consider allowing people free will and hence the ability to reject God to be loving or not.

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    I mean for a religious person everything should be god’s plan, right?

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      That is logical. Practically, though, this is used for justification of selected events. If a person confronts with something he doesn’t like, e. g. bugs in his home, he will actively try to change it.

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    “It’s God’s plan” is the phrase people use to comfort themselves when disasters happen, so I guess that tracks regarding Trump’s rule.

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      Yeah. Everyone assuming this is some sort of praise or support of the current presidency really don’t know how that phrase is normally used. Half the time I heard that phrase it was in a “wtf is going on right now”/“this shit sucks” sort of way.

      Shitty clickbait title is shitty.

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      In my experience growing up evangelical, it’s as much a plea as it is an assertion.

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    21% of U.S. adults are fully illiterate. Another 33% can’t read better than an elementary school student.

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        Oh I’m aware it always has. I remember learning in grade school, about the Puritans coming to America and being told it was a good thing….

        (Spoiler: it wasn’t)

        But it’s getting worse every day.

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      America has an individualism problem and well fuck me running if Christians just happen to be the absolute worst when it comes to the rights of others being of no consequence.

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      That’s a global percentage. I’m pretty sure that the United States is exclusively populated by the lower 15%

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    The more I see shit like this, the more I ask myself, why are we trying to save this?

    • Our legal system has been broken since it’s creation.
    • Our representation has never represented us.
    • Peace is an imaginary thing, at best.
    • Calling any country our allies, is a joke.

    So what is the point of all this shit?

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      The point is that America has managed to make a lot of guys richer than God by allowing them to exploit millions of people

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        Seems like the only point. However, America does not stand alone in this. Humans as a whole seem to be a cancer infecting the universe. I hope we never achieve interstellar travel.

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          No no.

          One of my only hopes in life is that Elon Musk gets to achieve his dream of living on Mars.

          I’ll still live on Earth, but at least I won’t be on the same planet as him anymore.

          Then we can take all the rich assholes, and send em to Mars.