• The Velour Fog @lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    They wouldn’t know “gods plan” if it smacked them in the ass. They’re literally worshipping the closest analogue to the Antichrist. These people are violently clueless.

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      10 days ago

      “God’s plan” is literally whatever is happening right now. Got in a car crash? God’s plan. Narrowly missed a car crash? God’s plan. Cat wakes you at 6am for breakfast? God’s plan. This whole comment? God’s plan.

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        10 days ago

        My thoughts exactly. It’s a clickbait headline targeted at anyone who doesn’t realize that a third of people believe literally everything is “god’s plan.”

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        10 days ago

        His plan sucks because he made Pedos billionaires. Wait, god might he a pedo. It’s his plan afterall. Always watching you like a creep. Dude fits pedo logic 100%. Worshiping pedos, sounds on track for religious nutts.

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                Wikipedia is using the pseudepigraphal gospel attributed to James as a source. This had been identified by Origen as a forgery and it doesn’t constitute Christian doctrine. Although it does influence Christian tradition a lot. It also cites Jewish custom, where girls are eligible to marry at age 13 (which actually contradicts the infancy gospel of James, which states she was 12)

                It’s not really reliable and definitely not Christian doctrine.

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                  7 days ago

                  Do you think there’s a more accurate determination of a teenager’s exact age two thousand years ago?

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          10 days ago

          Lol, like that billion actually matters when they stand in judgement.

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      This. Trump literally fits the description of an “antichrist” (lowercase; one of a type) and many of the traits of the definite article (the specific Antichrist) described in the Bible.

      But then they’re not expecting to be the ones deceived by an antichrist.

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        8 days ago

        Even if he’s the antichrist, it’s still God’s plan by definition of the term “God” literally. The only question is if God exists or not. Or for me the question rather is if God’s existence matters or not.

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          I’d suggest it depends on whether one assumes we have free will or not.

          My understanding of the Bible is that humanity has free will and so there are lots of things that happen that technically aren’t God’s will or plan (e.g. John 3:16 is pretty well known as mentioning God not wanting anyone to perish but for everyone to have eternal life, but then there’s also the Great White Throne Judgement in Revelation where there are definitely some who are cast into the Lake of Fire - the second death). There’s a good argument to be made as well for the prophetic parts of the Bible not being “God’s will” but simply the result of Him being outside time and space and hence knowing what the result of humanity’s free will will be.

          So no, I don’t think the Antichrist is part of God’s plan per se; rather, God knows there will be an Antichrist and that’s given as a warning so people 1) aren’t deceived by him and 2) know that God can handle him (in Revelation it ends badly for the Antichrist).

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            8 days ago

            Makes sense somehow but then God isn’t omnipotent and/or all loving so looks like a contradiction to me. Or maybe he just gave up on humanity?

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              I guess that depends on how you define those terms - being omnipotent wouldn’t necessarily require the exercise of that power, whilst “all-loving” would depend on whether you consider allowing people free will and hence the ability to reject God to be loving or not.