Compassion >~ Thought
A true Fedizen right here. Also Threadizen?
I need to stop mentioning flarum, but every time I do someone chimes in with “but it’s coming soon™!” So I just say what’s listed in [email protected] as if that were somehow official or something:-P.
I have been using “Pie-heads”, b/c we are just crazy enough to make that work! :-P
And the network of Lemmy + PieFed + Mbin (+ nodeBB + flarum) as the “Threadiverse”, distinct from the wider Fediverse that also includes Mastodon, PixelFed, etc.
Tbf ActivityPub is the name of the protocol, and Fediverse is the name of the network, though is too generic so many of us have taken to calling us the “Threadiverse”, for threaded-based conversational format (Lemmy + Mbin + PieFed + nodeBB + flarum), as distinct from the user-centric Mastodon, the image-based Pixelfed, video-based Loops (not federated yet iirc), etc. Notably though, while it is not so easy, people can send messages between these e.g. from Mastodon to Lemmy (or PieFed) and vice versa.
Threadiverse = the subset of the Fediverse based on threaded conversations, applies to Lemmy, PieFed, Mbin, also nodeBB and somewhat flarum
How people will see us then:
I figured that you would be! :-)
Although to be clear, searching for content is not something that I do daily or even weekly, so personally I consider it much lower in prioritization than other feature requests, e.g. a comment reply has a Preview option but a top-level comment to a post does not (that button does not appear), notifications is still a bit wonky, particularly not interacting well with the newer feature that loads comments (when there is a larger number of them?) only after loading the post, and then by doing so fails to traverse to where the notification link was aiming to take me to, etc.
Though I suppose others may consider it higher priority, especially newer people evaluating PieFed, and probably working on the search back-end may be a lot more fun!? :-P
It is always nice to see new things coming to PieFed. This is the only software giving me any hope for social media right now:-).
Searching by “posts” on Lemmy is actually superior to searching on PieFed, though searching by “all” or “comments” on Lemmy is absolutely borken (haha misspelled unintentionally but Imma just leave it there as it fits so well!?:-P). Reputedly Lemmy’s search is about to add the ability to filter on post “titles” separately from the rest of the text, which sounds very nice.
So it’s hit or miss what works or not on Lemmy. PieFed’s search is the singular feature that is currently very behind compared to Lemmy, but like everything else I expect PieFed to rapidly overtake Lemmy one day soon-ish. Therefore I use a PieFed account as my daily main, but when I want to search for something I still switch back to Lemmy (you don’t even need an account for that though).
r/Redditalternatives describes the various reasons that people decided to abandon Lemmy and go back to Reddit:
Notably, PieFed provides solutions to many of these e.g. the sign-up wizard that subscribes people to communities based on their indicated interests.
Welcome to the Threadiverse! 😁
If you mean the “how is your day going so far” type of posts, I don’t think those are meant to be deceptive so much as to generate engagement by placing the post into people’s subscribed feeds.
But if you mean the same identical post, that’s not great - perhaps you want to unsubscribe from communities that do or even allow such practices.
Welcome! While you are still looking around, you may want to check out PieFed as well & e.g. https://piefed.zip/ . It offers tons of features that Lemmy lacks, like categories of communities, which are user customizable and shareable, flairs (both user and post), polls, combining together all cross-posts across all communities, etc. Check it out and prepare to just fall in love with it!:-)
Even better, while Lemmy is written in the Rust language and adds features at the timescale of multiple years (not joking here) whereas PieFed is written in Python and adds new stuff literally weekly. So the gap in feature sets, instead of ever closing, will only continue to widen over time.
Although if you are going to stay with Lemmy, you would be hard pressed to find a better one than what you are on now. Fortunately, you may not have to choose, if it opens up a PieFed instance by the same people (discussion).
Thank you for sharing that data 😊
You are absolutely correct there, in that hypothetical scenario if they were to attempt to hide their traffic among normal instance activities.
To add a bit more detail to my previous answer, there were some prior discussions about this topic, citing some of the most popular instances of the entire Threadiverse having been targeted by their normal DDOS-like approach:
I do not know enough about the ActivityPub protocol to answer that. I did think that federation at least used to be the default many years ago but aren’t sure about the current status of that. Indeed detection and subsequent blocking will always be the cat and mouse game that is played but use of ActivityPub might at least delay the former part? And how would anyone find out, compared to e.g. if not a single person household then at least a small community instance just wanting to pull down all the content across the Fediverse to read up on?
Except iirc, they aren’t scraping “properly” (read: efficiently at least, setting aside morality for the sake of discussing this component in isolation), and are causing traffic troubles. If only they took the time to install an actual instance themselves then nobody would care in the slightest (again, ignoring the morality part, for now).
TLDR: they are being dicks about it, bc offering everything we have for free is not enough for them.
Meta did try to make “Threads”, but (a) it failed miserably and (b) use of that term on Lemmy predates Meta trying to steal it. We don’t need to let them define us! And all the more so if there’s no better word - the next runner up in polls iirc is Forumverse, but people vastly prefer Threadiverse.:-)