Looking for:
- no misogynists (so dbzer0 is out)
- no libertarians, no marxist lenninsts, no tankies, no rightwingers
- people who understand climate change is real
- leftists including anarchists, social democrats, democratic socialists, communists, etc are great
I picked world bc I was told it would have the most activity. Since joining Lemmy I have been repeatedly harassed by men on this instance, threatened with murder and rape by users including open Nazis (this was also happening on Reddit), and permabanned for being a woman, for being a feminist, and for not breaking any rules and posting factual news sources. Would like a better instance.
Have been considering solarpunk Lemmy but willing to consider other instances, just not sure
Eta: I’m looking for a recommendation of an instance, not your personal opinion on my experiences or feelings. If you are not going to give me the name of an instance you’d recommend, don’t comment.
Here’s an article on tone policing: https://www.housing.wisc.edu/2023/12/inclusive-language-series-tone-policing-2/
• You need to recognize the indicators of tone policing, such as telling someone to calm down or to lower their tone for their message to be better received.
• Understand that various levels of emotions will often be expressed, especially during political or hot topic conversations.
• To refrain from invalidating other people’s feelings, try self-reflecting on your desire to invalidate their emotions and think about if this is due to your own discomfort.
• Tone policing must stop, especially when engaging in conversations regarding experiences with discrimination, oppression, and racism.
Here’s an article on hysteria: https://www.bps.org.uk/psychologist/hysteria-historical-mirror-misogyny-medicine
During the early 20th century, women were thought to be unfit for politics as their biology made them prone to hysteria. The suffrage movement became linked to hysteria and mental disorder, due to propaganda from the press and the government (Iglikowski-Broad, 2018). Attempts at militancy in their pursuit for equality were branded as hysteria by anti-suffrage supporters, demonstrating how use of mental health could be used to belittle the efforts of the women at the time (Thompson, 2016).
I’m gonna keep it real with you. You’re going to see the same problems no matter which instance you end up on.
I have no idea who you are, and I don’t care. However, purely looking at your account history and modlog, you seem like a generally unpleasant person. You come off as someone who picks fights and can’t take criticism. The way you act is rude, hostile, and annoying. You also seem to be into some weird conspiracies, which makes you look unhinged. That’s probably why you keep getting banned. You’re not being banned for being a woman or a feminist, but because you break a lot of rules, at least according to the modlog.
My point is that it doesn’t matter which instance or platform you go to. You’re the common denominator. Obviously, that doesn’t mean people should harass you, but it does mean you’re at least partly responsible for how people interact with you. Lemmy is usually a chill place if you avoid politics, and even then, most people are nice as long as you’re civil. From what I see people are just treating you the way you treat them, so there’s a good chance that your problems might follow you on a new instance.
Here’s an article on tone policing: https://www.housing.wisc.edu/2023/12/inclusive-language-series-tone-policing-2/
• You need to recognize the indicators of tone policing, such as telling someone to calm down or to lower their tone for their message to be better received.
• Understand that various levels of emotions will often be expressed, especially during political or hot topic conversations.
• To refrain from invalidating other people’s feelings, try self-reflecting on your desire to invalidate their emotions and think about if this is due to your own discomfort.
• Tone policing must stop, especially when engaging in conversations regarding experiences with discrimination, oppression, and racism.
Here’s an article on hysteria: https://www.bps.org.uk/psychologist/hysteria-historical-mirror-misogyny-medicine
During the early 20th century, women were thought to be unfit for politics as their biology made them prone to hysteria. The suffrage movement became linked to hysteria and mental disorder, due to propaganda from the press and the government (Iglikowski-Broad, 2018). Attempts at militancy in their pursuit for equality were branded as hysteria by anti-suffrage supporters, demonstrating how use of mental health could be used to belittle the efforts of the women at the time (Thompson, 2016).
Lol no.
It’s amazing, men will do ANYTHING but admit misogyny, even while our government is being actively taken over by misogynists taking away bodily autonomy, the right to divorce, charges for beating your spouse, being able to vote, etc etc. These are all real policy proposals by my government in the last year. And you want to claim that the misogyny is all in my head - a misogynist thing to think and say. The rape threats aren’t in my head, and aren’t being said to men.
I am on other forums, I exist irl, and have been for decades - the issues I see are due to sexism here. That is my experience as a woman. It has also gotten worse as 5th gen warfare has gotten worse (esp since 2016). You don’t need to argue, insult me, or make up alternative theories - this is due to sexism. Period.
If you don’t get this, then you are a misogynist too.
I didn’t ask for your opinions on any of this, and your opinions are dogshit anyway. I asked what instance I might like. If you don’t know, go away.
Way to immediately prove their point
They actually proved mine first.
You are delusional.
The truth of the world is that most people don’t really care what gender you are. And most people on the internet don’t know what your gender is until you tell them.
Fast forward to you going straight to treating people like shit, and immediately using your gender to declare anyone that pushes back as a bigot in order to avoid any and all criticism. That’s not healthy behavior. Go seek help, particularly therapy
Yes, I am soooo delusional, no one cares abiut gender, such a stupid feminist for thinking people care about gender, and that RFK Jr just said we should diagnose women with TDS (meaning he’d put them in his camps) if they choose to take Tylenol for their pregnancy isn’t a sign of the rampant sexism killing and enslaving women. /s
You would never gaslight to benefit your own sex/men with this. /s You would never say “this is nothing” like the Republicans are currently saying about sending the national guard to Portland and Chicago and possibly invoking the insurrection act. /s. No, that is not something I’ve seen thousands of men do in the last year. /s
None of you even TALK about these concerns or topics. The misogyny is transparent. You’ve spent more effort insulting me in bad faith than critcizing ANY of the current harm to women. You are clearly a misogynist, a gender fascist.
Yes, it’s all in my head as a hysterical woman. /s
My experience of sexism isn’t a debatable topic. It is simply true.
And yes, most people see my username and know I am a woman.
I didn’t ask for your opinions on any of this, and your opinions are dogshit anyway. I asked what instance I might like. If you don’t know, go away.
Seems like you failed to answer me, so go ahead and leave, I made it clear I dont like misogynists like you. Stop bothering women who don’t want to be around you. No means no.
Case in point lmao
…ditto
If you want a more-politically-censored environment, I guess you could try beehaw.org. They tend to enforce positivity and restrict some political stuff and are into creating a “safe space”.
We want to explicitly make a nice little corner of the internet where we can hide from racist, sexist, ableist, colonialist, homophobic, transphobic, and other forms of hateful speech. We want a space where people encourage each other, are nice to each other, are supportive and exploratory and playful.
It’s not really what I’m looking for in a home instance, and there’s a limited amount of activity there, but I’ll give that they seem to have a userbase that seems less suicidally-depressed than some other home instances on the Threadiverse. Note that they have defederated from lemmy.world, as they don’t feel that it fits with their policies, so you’ll have more-limited access to content than on most home instances. Also, I remember seeing that they were considering moving to some non-Lemmy platform (Pleroma? Can’t remember), so if you specifically want Lemmy, that might not work for you if they do such a move.
EDIT: If you take your requirements literally, I think that you’re going to have a hard time finding an existing instance that will fulfill all of them. Beehaw.org might be closer, but it’s just not going to get you that far. Like, you said that you want an instance with no libertarians. I lean right-libertarian, so any instance that I could use would already be violating your requirements. I think that such an instance would probably need to require users to up-front state their political views at registration time so that that information would be available, disallow users with banned political views from access, and only federate with a small, whitelisted set of instances. The closest thing to that, where I think you have admin-level policing of political views, is probably on the tankie-oriented instances, and you’ve also said that you object to tankies.
You could set up an instance yourself and only federate with a carefully-curated set of instances that have similar instance and federation rules. But that’s also going to obviously seriously limit the content available. Maybe hit [email protected] and try to promote it to any like-minded users.
I don’t actually care about censoring like that, I think most communities, if they speak up enough individually, create their own culture that is self enforcing as new people learn their roles. This is supported ny how users on different subreddits will adopt different cultures automatically without even knowing the rules. In the earlier days, this was when mods would simply DM you or comment to you to ask you to change your comment and explain why. There was a lot more grace and gentle enforcement/explanations rather than strict bans or complete removals, which helped cultire form as a lot of times mods would help with word choice.
Funny enough, reminds me of an adhd subreddit where the rule was that you couldn’t use the word “you” at all, because people with ADHD often have demand hypersensitivity triggered by the use of “you.” And no exceptions allowed because that’s confusing for English 2nd language speakers. They were always demanding edits lol
Even without all that, most people can pick up on culture just by the reactions of the users.
I am just looking for a space that has attracted like, queer anarchist scientists who like to talk also about politics, philosophy, economics, and understand trading stocks and how marketing and the news moves stocks. It’s a simple request (jk)
no marxist lenninsts, no tankies
Lemmy’s devs are tankies. Why not pick an instance of piefed instead?
Sounds like you should run your own instance. We all have preferences about who we want to interact with, and we’re prepared to tolerate some things.
But for complete control, start and moderate your own instance. It would be an interesting experience, if nothing else.
I do not want control. You misunderstood.
Hey, how’s dbzer0 sexist???
Shocked at your experience on Lemmy honestly. Particularly perma banned for being a woman?
Solarpunk is good.
OK so decided to check the modlog. You’ve been banned from 5 different comms on 4 different instances by 5 different mods.
- One for name calling and personal attacks.
- One for trolling.
- One for being generally unpleasant.
- One says many many rule violations.
- One says Repeated misinformation.
On comms like casual UK and tumblr.
You have two removed posts, one posting us news where it isnt allowed. One being ‘not news’, which is arguable.
And so many removed comments that I can’t even go through it all. Having read a couple they seem fair. I’m sure theres some unfair ones amongst them.
But your behaviour is very reddit like. Please understand that this place is run by the money and effort of the individuals who you are often attacking, the admins. People here also prefer to be chill and not combative unless there’s extreme right wingers. Mild petty internet disagreements are not worth being uncivil about.
You are of course more than welcome here as your heart is clearly in the right place but please understand that people here just want a chill space to be in.
Edit: and this is one of 5 accounts!
“Lol you aren’t evil, you are just weak minded and unable to perform empathy at an adult level. Asking you to do so created a tantrum. Yes, you are a gender narcissist as I’ve explained. You are sexist, quite transparently. I won’t go away, I have a right to exist here. You can leave if you want, since you have nothing substantial to add. I’d also bite your dick off to watch you writhe so you might want to keep the sweety comment to yourself. I’m not that sweet, professionally so.”
I’m not even looking for bad ones, this is just right upfront. The whole conversation is a mess, not just you.
But both sets of comments were removed not just yours.
Here’s an article on tone policing: https://www.housing.wisc.edu/2023/12/inclusive-language-series-tone-policing-2/
• You need to recognize the indicators of tone policing, such as telling someone to calm down or to lower their tone for their message to be better received.
• Understand that various levels of emotions will often be expressed, especially during political or hot topic conversations.
• To refrain from invalidating other people’s feelings, try self-reflecting on your desire to invalidate their emotions and think about if this is due to your own discomfort.
• Tone policing must stop, especially when engaging in conversations regarding experiences with discrimination, oppression, and racism.
Here’s an article on hysteria: https://www.bps.org.uk/psychologist/hysteria-historical-mirror-misogyny-medicine
During the early 20th century, women were thought to be unfit for politics as their biology made them prone to hysteria. The suffrage movement became linked to hysteria and mental disorder, due to propaganda from the press and the government (Iglikowski-Broad, 2018). Attempts at militancy in their pursuit for equality were branded as hysteria by anti-suffrage supporters, demonstrating how use of mental health could be used to belittle the efforts of the women at the time (Thompson, 2016).
Won’t someone please think of the poor misogynists? Waa. All they are doing is destroying society and killing and enslaving women
Go ahead, post what he wrote to me.
“He does. One is an executive of neuralink. Elon and other billionaires literally want to kill everyone and start their own super human race. They are starting a civil war.”
I despise elon but wouldn’t complain if this was removed for being misinformation.
Here’s an article on tone policing: https://www.housing.wisc.edu/2023/12/inclusive-language-series-tone-policing-2/
• You need to recognize the indicators of tone policing, such as telling someone to calm down or to lower their tone for their message to be better received.
• Understand that various levels of emotions will often be expressed, especially during political or hot topic conversations.
• To refrain from invalidating other people’s feelings, try self-reflecting on your desire to invalidate their emotions and think about if this is due to your own discomfort.
• Tone policing must stop, especially when engaging in conversations regarding experiences with discrimination, oppression, and racism.
Here’s an article on hysteria: https://www.bps.org.uk/psychologist/hysteria-historical-mirror-misogyny-medicine
During the early 20th century, women were thought to be unfit for politics as their biology made them prone to hysteria. The suffrage movement became linked to hysteria and mental disorder, due to propaganda from the press and the government (Iglikowski-Broad, 2018). Attempts at militancy in their pursuit for equality were branded as hysteria by anti-suffrage supporters, demonstrating how use of mental health could be used to belittle the efforts of the women at the time (Thompson, 2016).
It’s literally true (there’s already a civil war starting to kick off the in US literally right now with the military invading Chicago and Portland and Trump contemplating the insurrection act), and I can give news sources for it. Look up Dark Enlightenment.
https://cascadeinstitute.org/dark-enlightenment/
https://time.com/7269166/dark-enlightenment-history-essay/
https://www.ft.com/content/02217acf-ac64-49c2-acd5-ef4f107f014c
Just because you all are not politically informed on even BASIC BASIC stuff, doesn’t mean I am wrong.
Elon sieg heil’d on stage. They genuinely want to solve the climate crisis by killing people, enslaving people, and having their own families that they view as a super race (NOT MY VIEWS, obviously there is no such thing) be protected and in power. They’re building bunkers. They’re collapsing democracies. They are pushing disease like measles and Chaga’s and removing healthcare and food safety. It’s genuinely what is happening. All the same actions a hostile nation would do during war, is what the wealthy have done to the world’s people in the last year.
Damn, she got exposed lmao. You’re doing the lord’s work be sharing this with the community, thank you.
Wasn’t my goal honestly. 🤷♂️
Here’s an article on tone policing: https://www.housing.wisc.edu/2023/12/inclusive-language-series-tone-policing-2/
• You need to recognize the indicators of tone policing, such as telling someone to calm down or to lower their tone for their message to be better received.
• Understand that various levels of emotions will often be expressed, especially during political or hot topic conversations.
• To refrain from invalidating other people’s feelings, try self-reflecting on your desire to invalidate their emotions and think about if this is due to your own discomfort.
• Tone policing must stop, especially when engaging in conversations regarding experiences with discrimination, oppression, and racism.
Here’s an article on hysteria: https://www.bps.org.uk/psychologist/hysteria-historical-mirror-misogyny-medicine
During the early 20th century, women were thought to be unfit for politics as their biology made them prone to hysteria. The suffrage movement became linked to hysteria and mental disorder, due to propaganda from the press and the government (Iglikowski-Broad, 2018). Attempts at militancy in their pursuit for equality were branded as hysteria by anti-suffrage supporters, demonstrating how use of mental health could be used to belittle the efforts of the women at the time (Thompson, 2016).
Exposed for things I openly talked about in my first comment? Doing the lord’s work for not putting the comments I was responding to? Enlightened centrism supporting the status quo of the patriarchy once again, and women better shut up and get in line, huh?
I never said those were the only bans - I simply have a problem with the bans I originally brought up for being a feminist and not breaking rules per the mod who banned me, which is why I want to leave. As in I spoke with the mod and broke down my comment and they were unable to say what rule I’d broken. This wasn’t an invitation to discuss my bans, this was information provided so people can recommend a better fit for me personally.
Here’s an article on tone policing: https://www.housing.wisc.edu/2023/12/inclusive-language-series-tone-policing-2/
• You need to recognize the indicators of tone policing, such as telling someone to calm down or to lower their tone for their message to be better received.
• Understand that various levels of emotions will often be expressed, especially during political or hot topic conversations.
• To refrain from invalidating other people’s feelings, try self-reflecting on your desire to invalidate their emotions and think about if this is due to your own discomfort.
• Tone policing must stop, especially when engaging in conversations regarding experiences with discrimination, oppression, and racism.
Here’s an article on hysteria: https://www.bps.org.uk/psychologist/hysteria-historical-mirror-misogyny-medicine
During the early 20th century, women were thought to be unfit for politics as their biology made them prone to hysteria. The suffrage movement became linked to hysteria and mental disorder, due to propaganda from the press and the government (Iglikowski-Broad, 2018). Attempts at militancy in their pursuit for equality were branded as hysteria by anti-suffrage supporters, demonstrating how use of mental health could be used to belittle the efforts of the women at the time (Thompson, 2016).
https://lemmy.world/post/36969200/19817472
Per the mod that banned me, that is not why I was banned for some of those.
The “US news” was about Elon Musk, a man from South Africa, interfering in global elections worldwide. They claimed it was US only but it wasn’t.
And I am proud to give personal attacks to misogynists, fascists, racists, child predators, and all the other dirtbags on here. That I am trying to avoid future conflict by changing instances is seemingly lost on you - yeah, when people defend themselves and stand up to abusers and the status quo, that creates waves and conflict. That is how we got human rights. I don’t respect attitudes like yours.
I do not have 5 accounts. I have this account.
WE THE COMMUNITY make the rules for general behavior, and I will NOT be compliant to the HORRIBLE SHIT I see on Lemmy constantly.
If db0 is weirdly sexist, I’ll gladly leave this place. I’m 100% a feminist. But I’m not seeing any evidence of this.
Edit: No evidence given, and now banned from my instance. :3
OP thinks any reaction to them flipping their shit instantly and constantly is aimed at their gender, instead of them flipping their shit instantly and constantly.
Here’s an article on tone policing: https://www.housing.wisc.edu/2023/12/inclusive-language-series-tone-policing-2/
• You need to recognize the indicators of tone policing, such as telling someone to calm down or to lower their tone for their message to be better received.
• Understand that various levels of emotions will often be expressed, especially during political or hot topic conversations.
• To refrain from invalidating other people’s feelings, try self-reflecting on your desire to invalidate their emotions and think about if this is due to your own discomfort.
• Tone policing must stop, especially when engaging in conversations regarding experiences with discrimination, oppression, and racism.
Here’s an article on hysteria: https://www.bps.org.uk/psychologist/hysteria-historical-mirror-misogyny-medicine
During the early 20th century, women were thought to be unfit for politics as their biology made them prone to hysteria. The suffrage movement became linked to hysteria and mental disorder, due to propaganda from the press and the government (Iglikowski-Broad, 2018). Attempts at militancy in their pursuit for equality were branded as hysteria by anti-suffrage supporters, demonstrating how use of mental health could be used to belittle the efforts of the women at the time (Thompson, 2016).
No. Wrong.
Yeah she seems a little off. I think she posts a little oddly but I don’t think she’s bad because she’s a woman. I think she’s a bit stressed out lately, and understandably so.
Edit: I was on your side until you proved them all right. You think feminism is hating men. Replies aren’t sexual harassment or rape, you weirdo. You’re the reason why sexists think feminists hate men.
Self defense isn’t being “off.”
Being angry isn’t being “off.”
These are reasonable reactions.
Here’s an article on tone policing: https://www.housing.wisc.edu/2023/12/inclusive-language-series-tone-policing-2/
• You need to recognize the indicators of tone policing, such as telling someone to calm down or to lower their tone for their message to be better received.
• Understand that various levels of emotions will often be expressed, especially during political or hot topic conversations.
• To refrain from invalidating other people’s feelings, try self-reflecting on your desire to invalidate their emotions and think about if this is due to your own discomfort.
• Tone policing must stop, especially when engaging in conversations regarding experiences with discrimination, oppression, and racism.
Here’s an article on hysteria: https://www.bps.org.uk/psychologist/hysteria-historical-mirror-misogyny-medicine
During the early 20th century, women were thought to be unfit for politics as their biology made them prone to hysteria. The suffrage movement became linked to hysteria and mental disorder, due to propaganda from the press and the government (Iglikowski-Broad, 2018). Attempts at militancy in their pursuit for equality were branded as hysteria by anti-suffrage supporters, demonstrating how use of mental health could be used to belittle the efforts of the women at the time (Thompson, 2016).
You are promoting the idea of hysteria. This is offensive, and this belief results and resulted in women being enslaved with no trial in psychiatric (torture) facilities - something RFK Jr is literally actively pushing for. And you’re helping him with your rhetoric and responses, validating the idea that angry women are hysterical and “off” when pushing back against abuses by men, and that men are the reasonable ones by default and entitled to treating women bad. Is it reasonable to comment on a woman’s thread with personal attacks and denials of her experiences when she is asking for a simple instance recommendation? That seems like instigating to me. But no, no, these guys are totally fine and I’m off.
Would you like me to find all the comments I was responding to? The ones that promote pedophilia, rape, and subjugation of women? How exactly is the normal way to respond to that? Tell me, oh men, how you want to police my emotions. If only I could be a perfect victim like you.
Maybe just post the responses you write to the rape threats you get. Since obviously misogyny on here isn’t real, so the rape threats are something everyone is getting, right? Not just me. So post yours and show me how I should be responding to these attacks which definitely are all in my head as being misogyny. Go ahead.
Do you think Francine Hughes was wrong for setting her abusive husband on fire? The courts found her to be reacting noncriminally to her abuse in a landmark case for women’s rights in the 80s. Do you even know about that case? Or do you think women should ALL be quiet and just put up with abuse from men?
I used to think you might be cool because Eugene is cool. Not anymore. You’ve done quiet a bit of patriarchal enforcing here - this thread was about recommending an instance for me to move to, and you’re spending your time here trying to police with others whether I’ve personally experienced misogyny on Lemmy - that was never the point of the thread in the first place, yet you all feel SUPER COMFORTABLE dismissing my own words, experiences, and what I want… With no evidence except removed comments that show I’m upset at what is being said to me - not even the comment I am responding to. Why is that? It’s like you’re pushing a patriarchal narrative for the boys club. Shame on you. May the way you treat women come back on you tenfold.
This, see below, he says they have a screengrab of my comments.
Please understand completely that misogyny IS gender fascism. I do not give a FUCK about being palatable to ANY fascists. Have you smelled the blood of a woman giving birth? Do you understand what that kind of slavery is like? Do you understand what has been at stake for your mother and every woman for months? Or are you blind and numb to it because it doesn’t involve you?
This sexist rhetoric online and elsewhere has been an issue since Gamergate, it’s pusged by massive 5tth gen warfare networks with MINIMAL pushback, and women were told to pipe down and it’s the boys club - and now abortion rights have been taken away and they are seriously trying to take away the right to vote, the right to divorce, the right to beat and rape your wife (spousal rape was still legal in the 90s). Me insulting people like this is like me insulting blatant genocidal Nazis - which I’ve also done and received raoe and death threats for… because they are all fascists.
Some of us have to stand for something and say something. The reason they squirm and complain is because it works.
Recommended documentaries (trigger warning):
- It’s A Girl (infanticide)
- Half the Sky (graphic sexism, sexual abuse)
- Whore’s Glory (graphic sexual abuse)
- Bleeding Edge (medical)
- Hot Coffee (medical)
- Diagnosis (medical)
- How to Die in Oregon (assisted suicide)
https://lemmy.world/post/36969200/19817472
If you look at the second link, a user told me they proudly laugh at me and have pics of my comments as their banner - because I am angry that Project 2025 is killing women, enslaving women, and taking away our rights, and men seemingly do not give a fuck at all. In fact they complain about lack of sex and intimacy and gaslight women telling us to calm down, or to fuck rightwing men to calm them down and get them on our sides (you have holes, use yours). I will never join that instance if that is considered okay behavior.
https://lemmy.world/post/36969200/19817472
Yes, being a feminist was not okay in the early days here. Afaik I was the only person that was openly a woman or feminist for several months when I first joined.
Id go with blahaj based on your comment history.
you should try just not not engaging in political discussions then. you seem to be very outgoing with it, which will attract people with opposing views leading you further down the defence route.
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stay away from political
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stay off social media
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deal with it and/or block them.
you’re literally asking for a safe haven from the world, on the world wide web…that won’t exist, or it’ll be an echo chamber.
also, stop insulting people constantly and perhaps they won’t insult/belittle you back… take the high road.
and because I truly don’t care, I’m blocking you to avoid further back and forth nonsense which I assume you’ll want to start/continue based on a LOT of your comments.
hope you find that small corner of only like minded people…
Here’s an article on tone policing: https://www.housing.wisc.edu/2023/12/inclusive-language-series-tone-policing-2/
• You need to recognize the indicators of tone policing, such as telling someone to calm down or to lower their tone for their message to be better received.
• Understand that various levels of emotions will often be expressed, especially during political or hot topic conversations.
• To refrain from invalidating other people’s feelings, try self-reflecting on your desire to invalidate their emotions and think about if this is due to your own discomfort.
• Tone policing must stop, especially when engaging in conversations regarding experiences with discrimination, oppression, and racism.
Here’s an article on hysteria: https://www.bps.org.uk/psychologist/hysteria-historical-mirror-misogyny-medicine
During the early 20th century, women were thought to be unfit for politics as their biology made them prone to hysteria. The suffrage movement became linked to hysteria and mental disorder, due to propaganda from the press and the government (Iglikowski-Broad, 2018). Attempts at militancy in their pursuit for equality were branded as hysteria by anti-suffrage supporters, demonstrating how use of mental health could be used to belittle the efforts of the women at the time (Thompson, 2016).
No thanks, silence does not benefit me, it benefits my oppressors.
Everything in life is political. A woman who can read and write is political. Being silenced is political. Seeking likeminded people is political. Perhaps you need MORE political education if you think you can step away from it or think that political advocacy is bad.
I’m not asking for “a safe haven from the world,” I am asking to be around people who understand concepts hashed out in the 70s like basic civil rights. Like the basics of feminism. Or, like the other day, why consent matters. That’s right, I had a convo on here about consent mattering. It wasn’t even my first conversation on Lemmy trying to explain the importance of consent. That’s not a thing feminists struggle with, that’s a thing patriachy (which makes rapists) struggles with.
It’s like saying “hey, I am with all these people who like math but addition only, and are forcing the world to be addition only, and I can do other types of math like matrices and vector calculus. I am tired of arguing with people about why 2+2+2 is equivalent to 2x3. I want to find other people who can do higher level math.” Except these people dont understand civil rights instead of math, which means they are being ABUSIVE AND SHITTY TO ME AND ADVOCATING FOR ME TO BE A SLAVE AS A WOMAN.
Probably the reason you blocked me is that you don’t see a problem with this. You think, like many enlightened centrists and men who refuse to learn basic feminism, that I am “just as bad” as the misogynists who are actively usurped my country and my rights. And you don’t want to respond to this. This is also why YOUR preferred solution is my silence, instead of trying to make Lemmy a better place or call in men you see who talk like this, or even help me with a basic request to avoid instances that are full of men like you.
Further, I only insult second when they open that door by insulting first- I am just better at it and meaner than them. Calling someone what they are - a misogynist, narcissist, fascist, etc isn’t an insult. It is what they are and why we came up with those words. Calling someone a small dicked weasel because I know as a misogynist they are bad in bed and insecure about their dick is weaponizing the patriarchy against them, is mirroring, and is a valid way to get shitty men to change their minds.
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Communists, but not Marxist-Leninists
Lol, wtf. Is this another case of seeking that fabled communism that sounds suspiciously like social democracy and is not consistent with any real world communist party’s platform?
No. It is because while I like Marx myself and have read Das Kapital, most online ML are:
- heavily involved in online 5th gen warfare and infiltrated with spies and bad faith actors that actively advocate for things that harm society and erode civil rights
- therefore the term ML and tankie tends to have been taken over by bad faith actors and it is hard to find real people in the noise
- sometimes authoritarian and not actually communist anyway
So while I may miss out on some cool people by excluding those spaces, if I look for OTHER leftist terms the 5th gen warfare slaves aren’t as aware of or into, then I can avoid them more and avoid their brainrot and concentrate on factual info and things that help me.
It’s also why I call myself an abolitionist first (when abolitionism and socialism/communism are the same thing), because there’s no way the current slave empires being grown will bring attention to their slavery by astroterfing THAT term. In fact, you can often get bots to abruptly block you or delete their comments (when normally they engage constantly on everything) by asking them if they are a slave. On Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, Telegram, Tumblr, everywhere I’ve tried this line (“NPR says bots like ypu are slaves. Are you a slave? Do you need help?”) on people that I suspect are bots/slaves, I’ve gotten blocked and they deleted their comments. And I first learned bots are usually slaves in big slave networks from an NPR Planet Money episode.
You can easily identify the 5th gen warfare terms btw by seeing repeated phrases or stances and asking those people/bots the slave question - if they block and delete, it is digital warfare of some kind.
And as always, I can give sources, but only ask if you actually want to read them. Shit is effortful af, that’s part of why I’m leaving here for a place where people have a hopefully higher level of civil rights knowledge.
Oh and last, I include social democrats because they tend to be educated in how the government works and in organizing, and a lot of older people ended up and social democrats due to McCarthyism. They tend to still be a little rad and worth making community with even if I really don’t agree on everything. These are your local librarians and science teachers who are very amicable to discussion etc.
I don’t understand the concern over which instance you are on. We’re all interacting with people on different instances, so what would even change?
Because a lot of people and instances block World entirely
Very few do that.
Well, I was in a thread I enjoyed the other day with people I liked, and the majority of them said they block .world because the users are horrible. They were from a lot of different instances and I wasn’t sure which ones were good from just quickly looking, and I couldn’t ask them afaik because they have the entire instance blocked and the users from that instance (ie me), so I made this thread. So perhaps those who do it are just blissfully happy elsewhere and you aren’t aware of it.
Yeah people may choose as individuals to block it, but it’s not instance-level blocked by most instances - that’s what I mean.
Okay, then I misunderstood what people were saying, or perhaps they just meant they aren’t federate with it? But then I wouldnt have seen their comments? Not sure, probably missing something or just misunderstood
They mean that a lot of users might go into their settings to block lemmy.world for themselves.
I just want to say I’m truly sorry for your experience. Unfortunately Lemmy is also run by mostly men, probably mostly cis, hetero and white.
Beep.
I think I really need a ELI5 about those instances. Like, I thought the instance doesn’t matter, since I can see comments from users outside of lemmy.world? I feel so dumb. lol
Some instances have different policies of conduct. Lemmy.world is a pretty general instance, so it won’t really impact most people.
After another user’s comment, I really don’t think I understand it myself lol
Yeah, I thought I understood also. Clearly, someone is mistaken though, I’m just not sure if it’s me or the OP which is disorienting.
Come to piefed
blahaj.zone ?
Going to be a tall ask, people are people…
I have no problem on small independent forums, when interacting with many other Lemmy instances, or in day to day life lol, it is 100% the culture here that is an issue
Since joining Lemmy I have been repeatedly harassed by men on this instance, threatened with murder and rape by users including open Nazis (this was also happening on Reddit), and permabanned for being a woman,
Wow, I knew .world was bad, but holy shit I have never had to deal with anything this egregious in my time here on .ml. That said I did get banned from a .world comm as retaliation for banning jordanlund from /c/transgender when he posted a matt walsh video
No offense but you have open and obvious 5th gen warfare on .ml. Like very severe and dangerous 5th gen warfare. It makes that instance unusable.
Makes sense JL likes Matt Walsh lol, entirely fits with his personality. Thank you for your service in bullying him
I’m not trying to be rude either tbh. That said I don’t see the danger here that you see. If russia and china are spending money on influence operations on lemmy it’s manifestly a waste of resources. There’s platforms out there with way more reach and that’s why states like the US and Israel are so obsessed with controlling those platforms.
I can appreciate not liking the way people here behave, I do generally encourage people who don’t like the vibe to avoid it.
5th gen warfare is dangerous and effective. The point is to create waves of conversation that stack up like a rogue wave in the ocean and flood information systems and thoughts so real information can’t be deciminated and real progress cannot be achieved, and also for monetary gain in ways you may not expect, including crypto.
Like have you even heard about nspm-7? Probably not.
https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/trumps-nspm-7-labels-common-beliefs
There are obvious phrases - the last big one was the Cracker Barrel logo change whixh waa found to be almost entirely bot (aka human slave as most bots are human slaves) driven. Conveniently, this allowed them to short Cracker Barrel and make money btw, while also holding them for ransom unless they can pony up money and fall in line.
If you dislike fascism, this is blatant fascism. It’s an issue. Not least due to the human slave component and how it has successfully been used to overthrow democracies and human rights worldwide. It’s as serious as taking a bullet.
I have family members who are sort of the equivalent of having died, they have unrecognizable political positions and aren’t themselves anymore. The person that existed was gone and the person in their place only understands and talks about the 5th gen buzzword phrases. Breaking them out of this cult fever is extremely difficult and takes a lot of references to values and things they once loved… And then they think of the buzzword phrase and snap right back into the 5th gen warfare propaganda.
We probably both think the Gazan people deserve food, right? But a lot of those “fundraisers” to give them food and accounts are literally 5th gen warfare stealing money to harm Gazans. That shit is not benign, it is killing people. It is serious af.
Frankly I was here to give people educational info and a warning about WW3 and US civil war that seem imminent, along with global human trafficking involved in these orgs (Assad, Andrew Tate, Trump, Putin, etc etc etc). I was trying to get people to not starve and to build uo stores of gold and silver (you can get silver from collecting most silver colored US coins printed before 1964). I no longer care to keep warning people here. Either they know or they don’t. Either they understand the financial component or they don’t. I am just one person fighting against slave armies. It’s up to them to have wisdom and discretion.
It is now time for me to move on and make progress with like minded people who can do so. I do not have time to educate on the basics of basics anymore- that has passed. No more time.
The first person every abolitionist should free is themselves.
