Is a common law attorney someone who legally becomes your lawyer after you’ve lived with them for a certain amount of time
I assume you know and are joking, but in case you (or someone else) doesn’t know - sovcits commonly argue that courts have to operate under Common Law or Admiralty Law. They frequently try to get cases thrown out because that’s not a thing so courts obviously refuse to call themselves either.
Which is objectively more bonkers than the silly situation I had cooked up
Funny enough, in Canada we have common-law and civil-law (Québec), which is where my mind immediately went.
This is actually true of the United States, as well. It’s Common Law for pretty much everywhere and Civil Law for Louisiana.
TIL. I knew Louisiana had a French history, but not that it maintenaned it in anyway, let alone through the legal code.
And of course both in the case of US and Canada it is a legacy from the UK, which also have Common Law (unlike the rest of Europe).
Everyone thinks that’s how it works, but you have to call them your lawyer, and they have to call you their client. You both have to behave like you’re in that level of relationship. It’s not automatic or forced just because you live together and have sex.
I’ve heard you can apparently buy a house with 10 silver coins, the original deed, 2 witnesses present and 2 secretaries present is this true?
Yes, this is true. Provided the seller is a dumb dumb who will accept 10 silver coins (~$400 USD) for a house while 4 of their friends watch in awe.
Only if those are coins of a full ounce of silver, even. Nothing is specified so they might as well be dimes instead.
It’s likely worse than that, even. “Silver coins” in sovcit often mean silver in color, i.e. quarters.
Dude wants a house for $2.50.
There are silver content quarters, pre 1964 I think? These are the ones they use, or attempt to use because it’s all bullshit anyway.
The thinking is that there’s real value in silver. The ones made today aren’t actually worth thier face value in materials.
Isnt gonna get a house, but i like the sentiment that my physical money has real physical value.
Course. We need to hasten the apocalypse, so why not just make up numbers in the cloud instead
what’s the point, he’s just gonna get outbid by the loch ness monster
Every sovcit post is just chock-full of words being used oddly.
In what world does “conveyance” refer to a living space?
I guess when you’re living in your van down by a river.
Conveyance means car. He’s talking about living in his car.
Lol I actually did know that, but the writing is so weird I couldn’t figure it out!
They think that if you don’t use the word “driving”, then you don’t need a driver’s license. I assume desperately trying not to use the word car is some kind of mush brain attempt to not admit it is a vehicle.
It’s not a car, it’s a conveyance.
The reason this is so funny is that in Sovcit logic, “conveyance” is a term to invoke a “right to travel” that supposedly makes vehicle licensing and insurance requirements unconstitutional.
By saying he intends to live in one, he’s completely undoing that logic. He can’t even Sovcit properly.
Yes the leprechaun has to sell you his house for 10 silver coins but only if you have 2 witnesses
AND two secretaries. come on, who’s gonna keep notes for both sides without the secretaries?
I kinda feel bad for this person. They’re either incompetent or delusional to the point that they basically have a disability.
I don’t.
IRS sending in letters about 21 years of scam back taxes I apparently owe them
Taxes are supposed to exist as a way to provide upkeep for infrastructure, government services, and social safety nets. Refusing to pay them while also still benefitting from tax-funded infrastructure and services is just being a parasite on society.
Yes. These people are looking for cheat codes so they can avoid their responsibilities.
I don’t. I know people like this. They’re stupid, stubborn, selfish, lazy, egomaniacal jerks.
Just the worst Karens ever.
And they’re about to hit a wall of reality when they become homeless
I’ve got to be honest, I might feel bad for them if SovCits weren’t such massive pricks, but being a stupid piece of shit isn’t equivalent to insanity to me.
Your Aunt is a lizard person? Insane. You think that you can increase your personal power and spiritual essence by consuming other living beings (insect-to-human cannibalism pipeline; I’m not joking this has been observed, codified and studied) to absorb their souls? Insane. Think that random family members, strangers and people on the TV are threatening you or compelling you to murder? Insane. Thinking that you don’t have to pay taxes, obtain or use a driver’s license for driving vehicles, etc. because you’re not a legal scholar or even lawyer, and base your whackadoodle dumb-fuck interpretations of antiquated legal statutes sourced from Youtubers & Facebook posts? Not insane - You deserve what’s coming to you, not because you’re a ‘bad person’, but because you’re too stupid to function in society and too arrogant to listen to anyone contradicting you for your own benefit.
says a load of obvious nonsense
Is this true?
No, you gibbering buffoon.
Arrr, ye be underestimatin’ the power o’ ten pieces o’ eight an’, uh, an’ two secretaries!
Two secretaries at the same time, man.
You can buy a new house in my city for 10 silver coins, provided that each coin is worth $100,000.
As someone who would also love to divorce myself from inter-subjective realities like “government” and “money” and “time of day” I appreciate these folks’ dedication.
It just seems extremely stressful to me. They create a fictional world through word magic in an attempt to escape reality, and the real world will constantly interfere because it is actually real unlike their fictional one. This again requires them to come up with even more word magic in a vain attempt to counter it, and so on until the real world interferes so concretely with them that they end up in jail.
make sure to pick a conspiracy theory that doesn’t matter, like venus being fake
Conspiracy, really? Are you saying that you actually believe those LIEntists at NASA that we’ve got all these giant fucking rocks just floating around in the sky?
what the fuck do you think the rockets are for? they put the rocks up there because otherwise it’d be trivial to disprove.
They’re going to hit the glass dome one of these days and then we’re all fucked, that’s what caused the great flood in the bible and it’s also how the dinosaurs killed themselves. The only thing to learn from history is that we don’t learn from history, SMH.
i saw giant rocks floating around in james cameron’s avatar movie and the man is a scientist so i believe it
I know you’re probably tired of all the AI paranoia, but I have a feeling this is from chatgpt…
Howso? It doesn’t seem to have any of the usual patterns, aside from being complete nonsense.
Usual patterns? Maybe it is just human nonsense. I’m honestly to the point where I wouldn’t doubt that anything I see on online is computer generated content. If they can’t make it indiscernible now, it’s only a matter of time. They aren’t going public with half of it.
Yeah it is just human nonsense. You can see 10 plus year old posta from sovcits like this. Many even crazier ones.
I gather you have never encountered sovcits on the internet before? This is oldschool sovcit magic wordsalad, they excelled in it long before the invention of LLMs.
21 years? Usually they stop at 7 unless they’ve got proof of fraud
This is actually true, but you have to do it at a crossroads on the Monday nearest to the full moon, turn counterclockwise 3 times, and throw salt over your left shoulder.
Macbeth !
I think you’re thinking of learning how to play blues guitar.
Buying a house for coins and a special handshake sounds like something you’d overhear in a remote jungle village that’s never made contact the outside world, yet it’s coming from some guy on the fucking internet.
I suppose you could buy a house for whatever 10 silver coins are worth. The important missing variable is somebody willing to actually sell it. Sovcits seem to strangely think other people are onesidedly bound by contracts they invent.
I’ll sell a shitton of houses to that dude for silver coins. I might not own them, but that’s his problem, i got the coins now
I don’t hate the idea of buying a house in hard metals with witnesses, instead of wasting money on a lawyer. But surely this person isn’t so dumb as to think the price wouldn’t be set by the seller, rather than legal nonsense.
It does read like they think they can invoke some sort of ancient law that says if they can obtain a copy of the title deed (by fair means or foul), find ten silver coins, and get four friends to show up, they can just kick someone out of their own home and they own it now.
If that reading is correct, then I don’t know what’s worse, that they’re dumb enough to believe it, or that they’re a horrible enough person that they’d actually go ahead and do that to someone.
It’s a ritual spell, it takes five casters, and it consumes the silver thnickels. Most wizards get it at level 8, but if you take ritual casting or specialize in houseromancy you can get it as early as level 4.
I think they might be stupid enough to believe that the value of the house is less silver than was given to sell out a certain heretical carpenter. And that’s the kindest reading I can give it.
But surely this person isn’t so dumb
Ah, so this is your first encounter with sovcits?
Sadly no, but my first encounter with one who’s this far down the rabbit hole. Usually it’s just creative tax dodges and exploitation of every loophole that I run into - stuff like creating a 501 nonprofit corporation to buy a thing, voting yourself off the board, and declaring bankruptcy (I forget which chapter at the moment), so that basically the creditors get told (legally) to go jump in a lake.
It’s madness, but it’s plausible. And it has worked at least once. That’s the level I usually see them at.
That has less of a sovcit texture and more of a sane, but dishonest and scummy person trying to get something for nothing.
Sovereign Citizens are a special genus where beliefs tend to among other things fixate on a separation of a paper and “real” person, common citation of common law, common incorrect citation of Federal law in state matters, and fixation on treating all legal interactions as if they were contractual exchanges.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything that’s normally considered sovcit nonsense win in a court. Very occasionally the sovcit wins in spite of themselves, but the actual arguments didn’t help.
Well, in a certain sideways sense, every legal interaction kinda is a matter of contract. The problem is that you don’t get the right to choose whether you’re a signatory or not, and the other party has the right to amend or update the contract at any time they choose. The problem is, unless you’re a signatory to at least one of those contracts (by birth or by immigration), you have no rights at all. Once you’re in, you really can’t get out safely.
Basically your birth certificate is the checkbox on the EULA of lawdul society. Good Lord, I hate that I just thought of it that way, but it works so well as an analogy.
Show up to their house with silver and some witnesses. Your house now.
I think that varies on the amount of silver.
Dunno truck full of coins is my preferred form of tender. It just sucks to count.
You bring me a big enough truck full of coins, we might have a conversation going.
Common law attorney = just some guy (no law degree)
Common-law attorney = just some guy (no law degree)
Common law attorney = just some guy (yes law degree)
Kidnapping? No, it’s common law imprisonment!
It’s a citizens arrest followed by a citizens trial, citizens conviction, and citizens imprisonment.