A majority of them have never even been to California yet they seem to talk about it/bash it non-stop.

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    It holds a level of cultural and economic dominance over much of the country to the point where it can often feel similar to how America does to Europeans.

    They make our art, they grow our food, and they represent us on a cultural stage to the world. And for a lot of middle America you will never be able to afford to move there, but some of your neighbors and friends will, and they’ll love it.

    There’s a lot of sour grapes in California hate, because Iowa, Missouri, ohio, etc know they’re flyover states, they know they’re never going to be the powerhouses that California is. So you watch your Los Angeles media on a Silicon Valley device eating your San Joaquin vegetables thinking about your childhood friend who couldn’t take it here and got into a UC and never moved back. There’s some bitterness if you left your small town, but if you didn’t even manage that…

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      You’re thinking of educated people, the people who hate California could never think things that far through. They are the uneducated masses who eat up what fox news sells them, and then regurgitate it. They’ve never talked to a minority or someone outside their economic class. They know their small reality, and can’t conceptualize a society bigger or more complex than that.

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        They weren’t going to be powerhouses regardless, but yes, voting for Republicans is fucking their economies. But there’s nothing thats going to make Des Moines the San Francisco of the plains, nor Cincinnati the San Diego of the Midwest . The great lakes region is slowly rebuilding from the catastrophic loss of manufacturing. Coal isn’t coming back and there’s not much else for money in west Virginia.

        Some of these cities might rise again someday, but there’s a reason people dream of the west coast and not Minneapolis or Chicagoland (though Chicagoland does rock, and so do Cleveland and Minnesota)

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    It’s the fifth largest global economy…

    It’s hard proof that most of their policy is complete bullshit, because if they were right, liberal social policy and taxes would have chased all the wealthy away.

    But it doesn’t, because people want to live in places with that kind of policy

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      California is a monument to the total debunking of right wing social ideology

      It plus New York fund the existence of the red states

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      It ain’t perfect (cost of living has always been relatively high, even for states with comparable cities), but it’s far and away better than any red state to my knowledge.

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        less gun violence rates, compared to red states. one of the favorite things to rail on about california is the gun violence, and they always misinformed. despite having a larger population with gun violence its less than places like texas.

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      “B-but everyone is leaving California!!1!”

      To the people saying this: yeah, dream on. Step away from the hard right-wing media and look around. It’s a myth.

      Yes there are some people leaving the state for places like Texas and Florida (sorry, but fuck knows why!). But there are still a ton of people here in CA, there are still people moving here, and there are still kids being born here. We are a loooong easy from a mass exodus of economy crippling proportions.

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    The people who tell conservatives what to think have indicated that California is bad. Why is it bad? They made some progress on a few things, and we can’t have that. It’s why we can’t have nice things like affordable healthcare and breathable air.

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    Because caring for the environment and creating social programs is scary to them.

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    In integral part of conservative ideology is hatred and California’s been a target for decades. When the acceptance of gays became too widespread they switched to hatred and vilification of transgender Americans. When the general population gets tired of listening to them screech about that they’ll find someone/something else. For some reason they don’t get tired of whining about CA.

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    right wing propaganda from MSMs, like fox. they are also hyprocites because many of them live like in nevada, and thier entire business is inside CALIFORNIA. for eg, i used to followed some asian ytubers, they moved to LAS VEGAS or reno over the pandemic but they rail on california, called it woke, but thier base is in california los angelas. and then they were whining about the lack of community culture for POCs in VEGAS, healthcare and school. also one of them was caught by california EDD laws, for mislabeling thier employees as contractors,1099 instead of full time employees. he was literally asking the incel viewers how to EVADE and commit fraud to get away with it.

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    California is successful. It is the strongest economy of the US, and one of the strongest economies in comparison to other, complete, countries. And it dares not to be Republican!

    On the other hand, most Republican states could not survive without federal handouts, mostly supplied by more successful Democratic states.

    It is envy, plain and simple.

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    I’ve never been to Alabama but I’ll still shit on it because I’ve seen statistics and stories about how bad it is there. Same with Republicans. California is definitely one of the better states to live in by most metrics but it does have huge wealth inequality combined with its large population means there’s no shortage of people in poverty and statistics and stories from that group that fox News can shove in the face of there audience and pretend that’s how everyone in California is living.

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      I’ve been to Alabama. I have family in Alabama. I will say it’s probably worse than you think in many ways.

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    Because California stands for many, many, many, many of the things they oppose without evidence to back up their claims: Supporting LGBTQ+, better Social programs, limited religious freedoms, run by a bunch of “liberals”, etc. etc.

    And yet, it’s the 5th largest economy in the world, and the vast, overwhelming, majority of funds for the USA.

    They hate that California works, because it disproves pretty much all of their talking points.

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    I would guess most midwesterners have not been, so they dont know the reality of the place. So anyone can say it’s full of bad people and they won’t bat an eye.

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      It’s easy to hate and fear the “other” - not just a conservative thing, though I do think they’re a bit more vitriolic about it.

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        I do think they’re a bit more vitriolic about it

        Looks at responses in this topic

        Are you sure about that? People who are in deep on both sides of the political spectrum behave exactly the same way in regards to things like this. This is just a thread of bash the “red states” because they……bash the “blue states” lol.