I want to be part of the solution of the problems I see on Lemmy, that is why I opened my alt account at my current server to open new communities while fixing their issues.
I had been informed by the server admin that I should not post more than 5 posts in any local community which is guaranteed to kill my communities on my current server.
I am explaining the backstory here for people to understand my logic for my question.
So, I really appreciate any help here. If anyone can give me good servers to open my communities in.
My current communities:
- News: to lower the load on Lemmy. World server and to improve the Fediverse health.
- Europe: due to less than optimal moderation actions as documented in "power trippin " community.
- Misinformation/ Disinformation: Because there is no community to post research and news about this topic.
Thank you all for your help. I really would appreciate any lead here.
Lets say you find an instance that meets your requirements, given the lack of email validation, what’s going to happen is that instance will be host to trolls and spammers, top to bottom, and then it will get defederated from the rest of lemmy.
It’s entirely possible to host an instance that doesn’t require emails to sign up. Blahaj lemmy and piefed don’t for example. We don’t have a spam problem though, because we require manual approvals of new accounts. Lack of email verification is only a problem when it’s combined with open signup
My instance does not require email validation and so far I have zero spammers or bots. There is one thing I am doing different than everyone else. Can you guess what it is?
Why wouldn’t you present your solution without the theatricals?
I did already. The solution is to charge a small payment from every user. I’ve been saying that for everyone that cares to hear since 2022.
I would venture that you spun it up yourself.
It’s still open for registrations. The instance is not just for me.
It sounds like you are looking for a server that is ripe for bot abuse. What time frame did the admin say not more than 5 posts. I would tend to think they mean 5 posts a day which sounds completely reasonable to be for an upper limit on posts per day into a single sub.
Yes, The time frame is per day.
Here is the reason I don’t support that limit:
From my experience in moderating the technology community at my main account, no one will post on my new community for very very long time.
How will news community for example survive on 5 news posts daily? As I said it will be granted to fail if it did not contain useful news posts that cover wide amount of topics.
Plenty of communities survive with 5 posts per user daily
More than 5 posts would raise the likelihood of people blocking that instance because of spam. Less is more.
As long as they’re not back to back I don’t mind. But what I HATE is people that spam out like 30 posts in one go. I don’t want an entire page to be posts from one person/community.
I especially hate it when it’s the exact same link, but different communities (shouldn’t be an issue for OP, but I hate that shit). Lemmy really needs to fix that. I don’t mind people cross posting 30 times, but I only want to see the same link once per page.
I make an exception to that rule for the /c/superbowl. I love seeing a bunch of owls suddenly appear in my feed :)
Omg, I agree. I hate seeing the same article posted to 10 different instances all lined up in a row.
https://piefed.zip/post/100161
All comments from 5 crossposts in a single view
A few options
- https://piefed.social/ - flagship instance
- https://piefed.zip/ - lemmy.zip team
- https://piefed.ca/ - lemmy.ca team
- https://feddit.online/
[email protected] for an app
You don’t need 5 posts a day for a community to survive here. There’s not that many people on Lemmy, things are a bit slower paced.
I mod [email protected] and we’d be lucky to have one post per day, yet I think it’s still a relatively healthy community, with a decent amount of engagement on most posts.
You don’t need 5 posts a day for a community to survive here
“Surving” != “Thriving”.
A couple of years ago, I noticed that the front page of HackerNews was consistently getting links from Mastodon posts. That was interesting because it showed that at least one significant part of the tech conversation had moved away from Twitter and into the Fediverse.
No such thing has happened for Lemmy. There is no particular community which is thriving. There is no example of subreddit community that had successfully boycotted Reddit and transplanted here. We have the usual handful of posters, each one trying to maintain their communities “alive”, but that is far from its true potential.
There is no example of subreddit community that had successfully boycotted Reddit and transplanted here.
[email protected] is much more active than /r/fediverse
Oh, wow. Thank you for a very good example for self-selection bias!
Seriously, though: why is it that you feel this intense urge to dismiss any and everything I am saying? Don’t you think that is a little bit sad that all you can do is this mindless pontification?
I reply when I see absolutes such as “all communities on Lemmy are dead”, "all mods are bad ", “all communities are about politics”
It paints the platform in a bad light and it’s not accurate.
Don’t you think that is a little bit sad that all you can do is this mindless pontification?
Another example of absolute.
I help this platform grow by regularly posting and engaging with regular users.
Stop using absolute statements and I’ll stop replying.
I reply when I see absolutes such as “all communities on Lemmy are dead”, "all mods are bad ", “all communities are about politics”
- I didn’t make any of these statements
- There is a big difference between “sweeping generalizations” and “categorically correct statements”. The former are the statements you give as examples, but the latter can apply to the absolute majority of cases, even if someone has a data point (“the exception that proves the rule”) in the contrary.
It paints the platform in a bad light
Why would you think that?
The original argument was “Communities don’t need a lot of posting to survive here”, and my response is basically saying “we should strive for more than surviving”.
It seems like that instead of focusing on the part where I am calling for more action, you decided to focus on what you perceive as criticism and you try to attack that as soon as possible.
Stop using absolute statements and I’ll stop replying
It feels like your problem is not with the “absolute statements”, but that you are doing your best to reject reality.
It doesn’t matter if the number is 100% or 99% or 92.376%, what matters is that it has been two years since the Reddit boycott and we still do not have a good example of a thriving community here. We had many attempts (the /r/selfhosted people, the /r/blind), but they are by and large still on Reddit. Can you at least agree to that?
Set up your own server and apply your own rules.
Agreed, this is my go to response to everyone, (seriously there’s like a post a week about this same thing) asking it. Sounds like the perfect place to spread whatever garbage you want is the server you set up and pay for yourself, accepting all personal liability for. Go all cowboy with it!
Email is optional on lemmy.sdf.org.
slrpnk.net doesn’t require an email, makes it optional in case you want it for password recovery. And as far as I know it doesn’t have the restrictions you mention.
Which is great until I lost my password 😂 @[email protected] will be dead I guess.
Actually @[email protected] was wondering if possible to recover my account since it’s pretty obviously my alt. If not possible, no worries, totally understand.
Huh, maybe db0?
Guessing you want a free speech instance where you can spam and spout nonsense. You may want to look to hilariouschaos, or one of the other freeze peach patriot instances.
exists and is decently active.
For the first problem, just use a throwaway email service (I like temp-mail.org) to make your account.
What’s stopping spammers/scammers/bots to do the same thing?
Nothing at all. That’s why we have captchas.
What makes you think that captchas are effective against spammers signing up to the service?
They raise the barrier of entry for creating spam accounts from “make a bunch of API calls” to “set up some kind of AI captcha solver/pay someone in India to do it for you.” It doesn’t stop spammers, but it makes it harder for them.
I don’t see how required an email means they don’t care about privacy.
I agree. If you’re worried about it, set up a free gmail account to use for validation, problem solved.
You mean those free email accounts that actively scrape your emails for data?
Is everybody here just on crazy pills today?
They’re saying “free” email services. What they mean are disposable e-mail services. You go to a website, they provide you with a random e-mail address. You enter that address into the form, check for the verification code on the disposable e-mail site and you’re done with the disposable e-mail. You never visit the disposable site again. Do a search for “disposable email”.
Son I’ve been using mailinator since before you learned to type
They still track your data, they still sell your usage, in fact THAT IS THE ENTIRE BUSINESS MODEL FOR DISPOSABLE EMAILS
It really staggers me how ignorant everyone in this thread seems to be about basic security practices
What security issue do you imagine arises from creating a Gmail account that receives a single Lemmy verification before the account is deleted?
they know your IP and user agent string, and now your lemmy ID.
Unless you are ridiculously security minded you already have google trackers perfectly fingerprinting you, so that’s all they need to have a 99.95% verification on a point of access, a purchasing history, and likely years of browsing patterns to analyze.
Fast forward 3 years to avoid elections our current fascist government declares martial law and anyone who says bad things about him is a felon. Google steps up smartly and says "My Father, please have a list of every lemmy’s userid and the last place they physically accessed the internet, plus years of cached sedition data by which to convict and execute them.
I hear you giggling. You won’t be giggling in 3 years.
But if you only use that email account for authentication to the system and it’s not tied to you, they have no way of tying it back to you. It’s just an anonymous email address.
that now has your IP address and your host string, as well as matching your ID to any sales trackers you happen to have, basically all you need to uniquely identify a user across sessions
All pretty easy to circumvent if you understand privacy. Guess you don’t…
So because I posted cybersecurity standard practices, I don’t understand privacy.
Please explain your logic
Your username is incredibly apropos.
