There’s a reason why Twitter, Facebook, and Reddit are separate sites, and why none have tried to implement the UI or feature set of the other.

Yes, the reason is that corporations can not profit from an unsiloed web of data, so they all created their own walled gardens and successfully fooled users into believing that the UI needs to be tightly coupled with the data they host.

having 3 different tabs open with the 3 different kinds of content/conversations just makes a lot more sense to me.

What would be stopping us from having these tabs using the same data from the social graph?

You might be interested in my proposal for a Social Web Browser. I am working on the idea, but the main challenge is that I see a bit of a generation conflict: greybeards who grew up the www prefer general “browsers” which can navigate an abstract graph, while the younger people want to rely on platforms and they prefer use-specific “apps”. You can see this issue right here in this thread: all the people telling you “just use mbin” or arguing in terms of capabilities from server-side software are completely missing the point.

Not being developed anymore, never gained enough traction and afaik its lead developer is working now at bluesky.

https://fediverser.io/ is the project. https://alien.top/ and https://fediverse.network/ are the instances running it, but only alien.top is doing (some) mirroring.

This might seem like a clever way to say “sour grapes” to me. Saying that “little content is good because it avoids endless scrolling” is as weird as saying “living in the desert is good because it helps me control my diet”.

To address the point: activity seems very much slowed down, and we have two years since the Reddit “exodus” and very little progress to show. We are yet to convert any significant significant community, most people just accepted the status quo and you can bet that the few active people around here still rely on Reddit to find content and repost here.

Aside from this meta-discussion about Lemmy and the Fediverse, there is basically no native group or community emerging.

I didn’t say “algorithm-based” voting. I said “people vote on anything they don’t like, as if they would be training some algorithm”.

there is no guarantee that they belong into the respective community.

The posts are about Emacs packages for using “AI agents” posted on the Emacs community. People are downvoting them only because “AI is bad”, not because they particularly care about Emacs or the package at hand. It’s an idiotic, self-righteous reason to downvote an article and it clearly shows that the people doing it have no relation to the communities where they are being posted.

One more reason to just block the community or even the instance.

I downvote the post only if the mod just removes my request, which I think is mod abuse.

Then block the community, report to the admin if the community is not respecting the instance rules and carry on with your day. Downvoting is just some passive-aggressive way of expressing your disapproval for the tastes/interests of the community members.

Take a look at these and tell me if these people are down voting because they are interested in the community or they are just trying to bury posts they don’t like:

• https://lemvotes.org/post/communick.news/post/3897488

• https://lemvotes.org/post/communick.news/post/3839154

• https://communick.news/post/3822175

I’d wager, without having access to the backend, that right now the majority of users browse by /all since most niche communities only have at best a handful of new posts a week, and that content is exhausted quickly.

Yeah, I could bet that is the case as well. But while I understand the justification for this behavior, I don’t think that it makes for a healthy one. Browsing by /all because the content of my curated feed is stale seems like driving to a McDonalds after finishing a healthy dinner and I’m not feeling completely full.

You took my comment way too literally, then. What I am asking is for people that browse by /all to stop downvoting everything they see, as if there were trying to train some algorithm.

Phanpy (a client for Mastodon) is showing that we can have the customization and discoverability happening in-device. Decentralization would improve if we stop relying on this platform-centric approach and started building on generic ActivityPub servers.

Anyway, sorry for the tangent. I feel like that this generation of developers just keep making the mistakes from the past when they could instead learn from the elders.

Why can’t we expect that, though? True bad actors are surprisingly rare, and minor fauxpas forgiven.

Because the larger the number of people in the group, the more disagreement there will be about defines “bad actors” and “minor fauxpas”. Right now in this thread people are arguing over whether or not these should be classified as NSFW, for instance.

that was being used an arbitrary example, and the actual goal with browsing /all is to find content you are interested in but previously unaware of

I know you meant meant linux just as an example, but what I am trying to understand is how much of an habit is it for you to get into content discovery mode that you worry about “doing it in public”?

It is 100% a bad habit inherited from Reddit, and this is one of the many reasons that I wish Fediverse developers stopped trying to emulate the closed platforms and started using ActivityPub as a powerful social graph to be shared by a single client.

I’d just really appreciate being able to browse for new linux communities in public while having questionable stuff come up as blurred thumbnails

Sorry, I understand that it would be nice if others did the right thing all the time, but we can not reasonably expect this to work at any larger scale.

Besides, how many new linux communities are popping up every day that it makes more important for you to be browsing by /all? It seems like a bad workflow and really poor ergonomics to rely on /all for content discovery when you know what type of groups you can search for.

Some communities I don’t want to see regularly

And your solution to that is browsing by /all?

Often it is downvoted

Also, can we please agree that is really poor netiquette to downvote posts in communities you are not subscribing to? If you are not subscribed to a community, you should have no saying whether the content is relevant to the community or not.

Instead of downvoting, hide posts you don’t want the content on your feed or report it if is actually improper content. Downvoting things just because you saw it on /all is counter-productive and hostile af.

Stop browsing by /all. The firehose will always have content that is of dubious categorization. Instead of trying to change the whole world to conform to your tastes, curate your communities and leave others be.

That is not entirely true. They are not taking a cut of the revenue from subscriptions, but they do charge more if you have more “members” signed up.

Anyone here using it? I am not sure I understand their pricing model. Is it just “the more users you have, the more likely you are making money from this and therefore the more you can afford?”