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  • It is a broader issue, namely: there is no such thing as doing a “thankless” job for purely altrustic reasons. This is not an issue on a small scale, but once it reaches it some critical mass we should wonder what motivates those who keep a position of authority.

    (And before I get another barrage of people saying “I do it because I care about it/ I want to help / someone needs to do it”… yeah, sure, but if you are cultivating something because you happen to like the thing at hand , then you are doing for your own personal interest and it is not entirely altruistic. And that is totally fine.)


  • it gives them personal satisfaction to help out with something that is meaningful to them.

    What about the cases where “what is meaningful to them” conflicts with “what is meaningful to the others”?

    I said on a sibling comment but it bears repeating: I am not talking about someone who enjoys a hobby and goes on to create/mod a community about it. I am thinking about the cases where someone finds themselves as part of a large community and realizes that the majority of the members keep pushing you to things you either don’t want to or disagree with.





  • AFAIK, it goes something like this:

    1. One moderator from fosstodon is not 100% aligned to the prevailing ideology on Fedi.
    2. Someone on Mastodon found “bad” posts from said moderator.
    3. The mob went on to presume that someone that is not 100% aligned to their prevailing ideology is unfit to be considered human - let alone a moderator - so they went after the admins.
    4. The admins claimed to have reviewed said mod actions, didn’t find anything out of the ordinary, but still got rid of them.
    5. Regardless of actions and reactions, the mob now successfully tainted the name and reputation of the instance.
    6. Less-principled users of fosstodon are now just leaving the instance, for fear of being associated with them.
    7. One of fosstodon’s admins (the author of the blog post) is now saying “Screw you guys, I’m going home to Bluesky”





    • Sign up to Fediverser
    • Search for communities for your interests.
    • The community should be associated with a subreddit. If it’s not, you can make a suggestion for the change.
    • Apply to become a Community Ambassador. I’ll approve it. Once you are approved, you will be able to do the following:
      • See the posts from the subreddit that is associated to the community.
      • Send DMs to people on Reddit, inviting them to join Lemmy and your community
      • Add other sources of contents (RSS feeds)

    There were more things that I had planned, such as the ability to do one-click repost of interesting links, but I didn’t get to it because that would mean effectively that I would have to turn the fediverser site into a an alternative Lemmy frontend.



  • She touches on the aspect of monetization and claims that “you could save money by being on the Fediverse”.

    Yes, in theory it is possible. In practice this is something that only is available for the already-famous journalists who have enough pull to move their audience from Substack to their own property.

    For everyone else, the Fediverse is (a) too small and (b) too “anti-money” to encourage professionals to even try making a living here. They stay on Substack for the same reason that video creators stay on YouTube: it’s a horrible master, but at least it lets them pay their bills.


  • these companies are at the whim of the large oligopolies

    Why? We are talking about FOSS and services based on FOSS, here. Do you think that Google would be able to successfully shut down small email providers without repercussions?

    pose absolutely no threat to them

    Why is that relevant? I do not particularly care about eliminating the large corporations, at least not from the start. I’d be more than happy if we could grow this ecosystem here to become a sizable share of the overall market.

    I’d rather work towards a world where Facebook has “only” 70% of the market to themselves and the rest of us foment a healthy economy sustaining the other 30%, than to keep this delusional idea that a scrappy bunch of nerds are going to be able to take Lemmy/Mastodon/PixelFed/Matrix/XMPP to the mainstream by wishful thinking and “community” alone.



  • There’s a difference between an instance trying to duplicate all of fucking reddit

    • There were fewer than 200 subreddits being mirrored. This is far from “all of reddit”.
    • Some of them were also mirroring comments, but the large majority was post-only.
    • I was implementing a bunch of filters to bring the noise down.
    • The bots from alien.top were posting only to instances that I also own.
    • No content was being pushed out. If the content from alien.top was ending up on your instance, it was because your users were interested in the content.
    • Even after I disabled most of the bots (I think that now it’s only mirroring stuff to sfw.community), the ban on the instance persisted.

    With botsin.space, we have a good example of what is reasonable to not be defederated

    We also have a good example of an instance that is dead. There is no point in giving that as an example, if no one can actually use it.


  • Wait, not only are you misinterpreting what I said (I used alien.top as a case of for “admins will want to defederate because of resource abuse even when their own users find it useful” and less about “admins will ban any bot-only instance”) but your interpretation directly contradicts your first point.

    Yeah, you can add the “reasonable output” qualifier all you want. This would be a subjective point. I for one think that a fleet of 98 bots posting each once a day is not even worth of consideration, but clearly some disagree and are willing to treat the guy as “toxic”.