Like this. Basic stuff, “I wish I had been taught how to do my taxes in high school” kind of stuff. Long-form video content is preferred but not required.
Edit: I should clarify for everyone in the thread that I could probably work my way up to reading stuff, especially further on when I’ve built up some better habits. Should also mention my executive dysfunction/ADHD issues in this post body
Learning how to do small talk will improve your social, economic, and relationship opportunities in countless ways.
Asking people questions about themselves makes them think of you as likable.
Remember the acronym f o r d: Family Occupation Recreation Dreams
Small talk can be learned and getting in some more practice might make it bearable, perhaps even enjoyable.
When you are running out of topics keep the acronym above in mind and ask a question related to one of those topics. Something like this example:
Q: So, have you always lived in (wherever you are)?
However they reply, follow up with it positive and encouraging response such as: “ah you’re a long timer. I thought there weren’t too many of us left!” and then go right into a follow up Q also related to the acronym but now attached to the new information you have such as: is your family from this area too? What brought you here initially? What do you do for work? Hey since you’ve been here so long, what do you think about (insert local drama that’s been in the news).
The goal isn’t to interrogate, but to smoothly and rapidly sort through topics until you find commonalities. Then you can lift off and the conversation will feel very natural and easy.
I heard about this 20 some years ago and have used it at the start and end of business meetings, on first dates, with strangers, and heck sometimes even with my friends if we’re catching up and I want to cover things that are core to them.
This is the best advice I’ve seen on small talk, and how to get a flow going. Thank you
Also, psych nurse protip - this is how you use this to talk someone out of a panic attack. Use the above conversation template plus the following nonverbals / paraverbals:
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start by reducing stimuli (think five senses!). Reduce the noise and lights, and try to get away from any particularly offensive smells or sensations.
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you can try to get the crowds and stimuli out of the area, but it will probably be easier to move the person panicking. Getting crowds of people to do things is very tricky. It’s usually just easier to move the one person.
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talk at about half to a quarter of your usual speed and volume
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use common English words (no SAT vocab). Enunciate clearly, and don’t use more than one conjunction / more than two ideas per sentence. Their brain can’t chew / digest as much as all at once.
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Do not stand directly in front of them and especially do not corner them. If you feel unsafe you can still stay closer to the door than they are but try to stand slightly to the side to give them line of sight to it.
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if you want to practice / really up your game, learn to deepen your pitch slightly / resonate / speak from your chest while still keeping your volume down. Imagine James Earl Jones reading a meditation script on YouTube. This has an added benefit if you work with seniors, most age-related hearing loss is in the upper pitch ranges.
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Your first time doing taxes, go to the public library and grab the paper copy of the instructions, even if you’re submitting it electronically. Read them and highlight anything that’s confusing or important.
Laundry: Use less detergent than you think, and colder water than you think. Don’t machine-dry any wool and most synthetic fabrics.
ADHD? Look into a bullet journal for keeping track of important info. This is not a product, it’s a method, and you can do it with a 50¢ composition book. The main benefit for someone with ADHD is that it’s stupid easy to start and doesn’t break if you forget to do it for a day or a week or a month.
Buying insurance? Hiring a contractor? Know your budget and get at least three quotes before deciding.
You don’t get promoted by being good at your current job. You get promoted by asking for it, or by jumping to a different company.
Start investing now. Pick a stock or fund that’s boring but steady and buy $50 worth (or more, if you can afford it), rain or shine. Don’t stress about optimizing it; even boring investments should have a return well above inflation.
Never lend anyone money. It will destroy your relationship 90% of the time. If someone needs help and you want to help them, just give them the money. Either they’ll pay it back some other way or they’ll pay it forward, but no matter what it won’t be hanging between you.
If times are hard, don’t be afraid or ashamed to take advantage of programs or food banks. That’s what they’re there for. You’re not taking it away from someone who needs it more, most food banks have a big overflow from week to week. If you feel bad about using these programs when you’re down, well, make sure to donate or volunteer when you’re up.
I’ve heard good things about the “Dad, How Do I?” Youtube
series.channel.I don’t have a link, sorry, but I know there’s a YouTube channel called “Dad, how do I…?” And it’s a lot of basic adult things. Such as change a tire, check your oil, resumes, tie a tie, things like that.
I don’t know if it’s long form, but I agree with you that videos are preferred for learning and disagree with the person saying Rule 1 for adulting is reading.
“Dad, How Do I?” Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNepEAWZH0TBu7dkxIbluDw
I set a perpetual calendar reminder for cleaning the dishwasher filter every month, the HVAC filter every 3 months, the water filter every 5 months. My husband’s calendar reminders are to refill his meds every 24 days. Those days add up to one extra refill a year.
My parents always said: “No path in vain.” By that, they meant that I should - for example - always take some plates with me and put them straight into the dishwasher when I’m on my way to the kitchen anyway. That’s probably why my place looks pretty tidy today.
If I didn’t still do that, the household chores would eventually overwhelm me.
Agree with this however I’ve realised I can only do it with specific things. My wife complains that I could have taken things upstairs if I’m going that way for example but I’ve realised it doesn’t work because if I do then I’ll forget why I went upstairs.
Do you really not see an issue with the approach being taken here? You’re looking for resources that you assume will help you, but in the spirit of the matrix movies, “You can’t see past the decisions you haven’t made yet.”
The brain hasn’t evolved to retain information it doesn’t deem useful. I guess what I’m really getting at is, how can you be confident that anything supplied here will be retained if you were previously unaware you even needed to know in the first place? Don’t underestimate the value of deep learning via experience rather than preparation imho. I promise I’m not shade-throwing, I was much like you when I was younger and have a couple similar reddeet posts, and it was mostly wasteful preparing to prepare nonsense if that makes sense.
My personal advice: Take notes.
Just write everything down. I recommend an actual physical little paper notebook and a pencil. If you think: “Oh I must remember that” or “I’m almost out of …, I must buy more”, write it down.
Now don’t go writing down stuff like fun facts or YouTube videos you want to watch. Make it all practical stuff, stuff you need to do or is important in your life. It’s your brothers birthday next week, write down the date and what you need to do to prepare. Your stomach hurt and you think you ate something that didn’t agree with you, keep a log of what you ate and how your stomach felt. That way you can identify allergies or things you can’t eat (anymore). Having trouble remembering names? Write down after you met someone: “Today I met Steve, Steve is in charge of accounting at Megacorp.” Measured the room you want to put new flooring in? Make a little sketch and put the measurements in.
Writing stuff down physically forces your mind to pay attention and remember it later in a structured way. It also feels really good to physically tick off a task or cross it off. It can be a bit hard to keep up with and not go the other way and put so much into it, it doesn’t help anymore. But it can help a lot, especially if you are the kind of person that thinks 8 times a day to put out the garbage, only to wake up the next morning and you’ve forgotten to actually do the thing.
To add to this: an actual calendar on which you can write important stuff is very helpful. Not a digital one, use one made out of paper, and keep a pen nearby. It’s easier to have a quick glance for you important stuff that way, and it makes it easier to coordinate stuff if there are others in the household.
Physical calendars are great. One good trick is to write all the important dates down the day you get it. Mom’s birthday; parent’s anniversary; any event that you want to be sure to remember.
When cleaning surfaces:
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Wipe down once with a damp sponge/cloth. This removes loose dirt and softens the hardened stuff.
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Spray with a surfactant.
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Wait five minutes to give it time to work.
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Wipe again to remove remaining dirt.
If there’s something you can’t get off, use a harsher cleaner like Barkeeper’s Friend. Wear gloves when using that. I can’t unlock my phone with my thumbprint anymore.
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Committing crimes? Chemical burns to the fingers makes it harder to catch you!
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1st rule of an adult: video is an extremely ineffective media for any information except for sport and porno. You’re a grown up now, learn to read.
Reading a manual on how to fix the flux capacitor in my car is MUCH less useful than a video.
With a video, I can see what it looks like, where I can find it and how to get it back in there.
If you’ve got a resource for decent in-depth written how-to guides that isn’t buried under a mile-high haystack of SEO-optimized garbage, fuckin’ post the URL for it!
I learn shit in video format because decent info is a lot easier to find.
I understand and appreciate the intent of what you’re saying, but I have really bad executive dysfunction/ADHD/whatever issues that make this not a realistic choice for me. This post wouldn’t need to exist if I had the motivation to sit down and read my way to victory. Long-form listenable content is also just much easier for me to multitask with.
to multitask with.
Rule 2 of adulting: Stop trying to multitask. Multitasking is a myth and impossible for humans to actually successfully do. The more things you try to do at once, the less effective and capable you are at each individual task. Literally not a single human alive is actually good at multitasking. I understand you have issues, but whether you like it or not, you’re reducing your effective capacity to “get shit done” by choosing to try to do this impossible thing called multitasking.
https://hbr.org/2010/12/you-cant-multi-task-so-stop-tr
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7075496/
https://health.clevelandclinic.org/science-clear-multitasking-doesnt-work
https://www.npr.org/2008/10/02/95256794/think-youre-multitasking-think-again
https://radius.mit.edu/programs/multitasking-why-your-brain-cant-do-it-and-what-you-should-do-about-it/
https://neuroleadership.com/your-brain-at-work/the-myth-of-multitaskingOP don’t listen to this shit. ADHD people are the best at multitasking, we thrive at it. In fact jobs will love that you can do it. This poster is just making an excuse for themselves. (Another thing you gotta watch out for as an adult. People are tricky and play their own mind games.)
Bullshit.
Constantly bouncing between projects and never making meaningful progress is NOT multitasking.
I’m able to multitask and make progress with more than project at once, and I’m sure I’m not the only one.
But did you progress more than if you had concentrated on one project at a time? That’s the point they are trying to make.
On what kind of scale?
Can you type an email to one person while speaking on the phone with another?
Or do you mean that you are able to do one task, and then do another task?
Or, when it’s almost time to go home, do you have 30 half written emails, because you kept clicking on random bullshit on the computer and wandering away from your desk?
There really is no universal definition of multi tasking, but every one thinks they are good at it, because we always feel like we have so much going on, and we’re still surviving, so we must be doing something right.
ADHD isn’t one size fits all. Personally, if there’s a TV on in the room, I will be watching it. It could be a golf tournament that I have no interest in at all, and I’ll be staring at it while someone is trying to talk to me. I try not to, because I don’t WANT to watch the TV, but for some reason I will keep sneaking peaks at it. Oh, that guy’s down 3 strokes. I don’t know what that even means, but I must have thought it was important to pay attention to that. 🤷🏻♂️
Jesus Christ, fuck science and evidence, I guess. There’s a reason I included that. But sure, let’s go off one assholes anecdote that “ADHD people are the best at multitasking, we thrive at it” and everyone else is just making an excuse for their shortcoming of not having ADHD. Give me a break dude.
And for another anecdote, literally nobody I know who has ADHD is loved at their job for having it. They all struggle to hold jobs.
fuck science and evidence
Most science about human behavior deals with averages. It’s completely possible that a subpopulation might show an inverse trend. This is especially the case when it’s a subpopulation with known differences in similar behavior. I’m not saying ADHD people benefit from multitasking, but we just can’t say anything based on the general population.
And for another anecdote, literally nobody I know who has ADHD is loved at their job for having it. They all struggle to hold jobs.
A friend of mine is excelling at sales and that is due to his personality, including ADHD. In most jobs, of course, it’s not beneficial and can pose problems. But that doesn’t mean you can’t find jobs that are well-suited for ADHD people – maybe even better suited than for neurotypicals.
This is a much fairer and more well reasoned take than what the other fellow said.
Somebody did already find it worth a downvote lol.
yeah, it was a bit of an exaggeration. there are definitely aspects that make it hard, but others can be used to their advantage.
This is such a weird take. Do you learn in school mostly by reading or mostly by paying attention to the teacher and listening? Yeah video is terrible for things like news which just state information and there’s no deep explanation required but visuals, especially moving visuals, supplement the learning process to an extreme degree.
not everyone learns the same and visuals work better in some cases. personally it was easier for me to see how to put air in my tires than read about it.
My advice is still important, though: text manuals are everywhere and about everything. Other formats are scarce and mostly of low quality. So you still should learn to read even if you have “really bad executive dysfunction/ADHD/whatever issues” like OP.
oh for sure. We need better literacy in general.
This is one of my all-time least favorite takes.
For a lot of stuff, text is a good way to present information. For a lot of other things, information is best processed visually, often in the form of a video. Think repair, building stuff, 3D software, complicated GUI software in general, sports and gym technique, physiotherapy, anything that involves spatial motor skills really.
Imagine if IKEA instructions were text-only?
Imagine if IKEA instructions were text-only?
Illustrations are not forbidden. Every technical non-trivial book has illustrations. That’s normal.
Either way, there is a lot of things where a book, with illustrations or not, is an inefficient way to convey information.
I’m going to one-up you here and suggest learning to learn. Some people can learn through long form video, some through reading, and some need to take notes and review them later.
For example, I hate all the extra fluff that goes into a written work and frequently need to delete sections until only the minimum information is there. Like deleting the first several paragraphs before a recipe actually gives you the ingredients and instructions!
People learn in different ways. I have read many books and also watched many videos, and also been taught by others. All worked in different ways.
I respect these words of wisdom immensely as someone who should have had a mentor spell this out for me years ago. I’m not trying to bothsides you at all because I agree with you 99%. I just wanted to add a few niche areas like appliance/car/repairs/etc, videoform can be lifesavingly convenient in pinches But most importantly reading is fundamental
and anything where you’re being given instructions where you’re supposed to copy what the person in the video is doing, video works very well for that too
That’s silly as sometimes video is preferable especially for things like repair and “how-to” instructions.
Not everyone has the same learning style you do.
Last I heard, “learning styles” are a myth