It feels all but certain that I won’t be able to enjoy a prosperous life or get to retire. All of the wealth is going straight to the top. All of the opportunities to move up in the world are being rug-pulled. All of the federal agencies that help keep us safe and healthy are gone. The social safety net is getting flushed down the toilet. We will live in disease and squalor, and the most vulnerable of us will die.
Because I dared to not be a sociopath, I and anyone else who voted for sanity will be deemed enemies of the state and hunted down - which won’t be hard, because it would be trivial to build the most robust surveillance state in human history if it doesn’t exist already.
I myself have disabilities (which I don’t think qualify for benefits) that make it hard, but not impossible, to find a job. The problem is that I just can’t bring myself to do it because I don’t get what the fucking point is anymore. I have to work so hard to get out of this rut just for some fascist fuck to kill me or toss me into a torture facility before I can even experience life on my own.
Have you been in a similar headspace and were able to escape it? If so, what snapped you out of it?
I agree with others that this reads as a person who’s chronically online. Perhaps bluntly saying “go outside” is insensitive, but it would not hurt to organically expose yourself to real people in real life instead of mentally ill people on the internet these days.
You mentioned getting a job - working is a great option, but truthfully nobody likes work, everyone who says so is coping.
However, putting yourself through challenges is what builds your character. You seem lost to me, so I think you should do these mundane boring little detours in life, because that’s where you’ll find what you actually want to do.
Wow that’s a super sad pov. I’d agree it’s likely everyone dislikes parts of their work but there’s lots of industries where people are generally excited about what they do. I make devices operate remotely over the internet, that’s pretty cool. Daily stand up is the shit part.
I’m pretty sure if someone was given the choice, they wouldn’t want to work and instead do what they want. Financial reasons aside, of course.
The only place I can accomplish the tasks I’d like to accomplish are at my work. Some tasks are so large that they not only require many many people who wouldn’t normally choose to work together, but a regular flow of resources from others.
People are so lost in capitalism they tie it ALL work to just being money. Even if you remove capitalism, even if you remove money, people still need to work together and resources still need to channel from place to place. Your job wouldn’t go away if money went away. If you look at some of the largest most successful open source free programs in the world, most of the top contributors are all from companies that paid that person a salary for contributing to that code.
OP mentioned getting a job, why would you think I meant anything but that in this context? Nobody sane would choose to work their job vs doing an activity they actually want to do.
I am saying yes they would, yes I would. You entirely can find a job that is something you want to do and also not your hobby. Most things folks want to do are someone’s job.
You and I both know this is an overwhelming minority and that is not how most jobs are at all for vast majority of the population.
I get it, and I agree that most people are not in the right job. This is a big part of why folks want things like a higher minimum wage and socialized healthcare. People often are stuck in jobs because they NEED something from that job and are unable to look around. Then on the other side, sometimes folks find their calling but it pays $9 an hour and they feel a need to try to do better.
I work with a lot of folks for example that got into management because they think that is what you do. They hate the job, they miss writing code, they are awful managers. It’s a very backwards way of living your life.
I am just trying to talk to an ideal and real scenario here. The idea that all jobs suck and that is life is exactly what keeps people down. That is the lie folks believe that keeps them from seeking peace and contentment. We gotta fight that even if we also know that it isn’t easy to find a spot and when you do it might not be viable with the rest of your life.
The amounts of copium in this thread are extinction-level.
Everything you just said is 100% valid and you are simply correct.
The thing is, it’s not a measure of a healthy mind to thrive in a profoundly sick society where the worst of the worst have won long ago.
There’s this thing called depressive realism which posits that depressed people, by and large, perceive reality much closer to how it really is than neurotypical people.
Essentially, “normal” people have an (innate or learned) positivity bias. Which is usually a good thing. People like us are the outliers.
But positivity bias in a world where it’s actually harmful is another thing. The majority of people are walking headlong into their own extinction while going “Ehh, it’s not so bad”, while we should ALL be positively irate and picketing the homes (not companies) of our owner class 24/7.
But it hasn’t happened yet and at this point I don’t know how bad things need to get before people realize what’s going on.
Honestly, it sounds like you’ve been spending too much time in some online communities that are doom posting about everything. Do things suck right now? Yes, but they’ve literally sucked for as long as human society has existed. Things can always be better, or always be worse. However you can’t just sit around passively waiting for the times to change, or your life will suck.
The single biggest factor in whether your life is good or not is you and your actions. Don’t let things outside of your control convince you to give up. Do the best with what you have, and I promise you that you can find fulfillment and happiness in the life available to you.
So, as someone that was homeless 3 times already and went from that to doing ok for myself enough to at least have some vacation and self autonomy.
Find something that only you, can do.
That was the advice that worked for me. Don’t try for the specific jobs that make money or even make you happy doing it but something that you knew if people thought about it, they think of your name to get it done.
It’s stressful and a shitty life sometimes but I know people rely on me. And it’s ok to take time to figure it out and make bold decisions to get there. Stuff you wouldn’t expect to do can be a great starting place.
I couldn’t afford my existence in America ( got bullied out of my STEM field because it made other stressed people feel better) so I looked for jobs that would pay for it for me. That’s how I discovered the circus and cruise lines. Food and lodging and people trying to get by. From there I found something they needed fixed and learned how to do it.
You need to be willing to change. And probably willing to go your own path in a way that will mean a life different than you ever knew. Nothing that worked for anyone else will absolutely work for you, we are all too individual and different.
But that’s why you can do something. Maybe you can work with leather and make aprons that no one else can. Maybe you can operate a remote station alone better than others cause you like the quiet. Maybe you can land planes in Boise Idaho cause you don’t mind living there and like planes. Maybe you can run a cult of personality where people think you are their mother God…
I dunno it’s worked for others but it’s up to find what you can do and how far from the norm you are willing to go.
Normal is a myth of America anyways. Go do you.
you can work to live or you can become dependent on others to support you, but somehow you’re gonna need to eat.
Get a STEM degree and move to a country that respects its citizens.
Or other degree that’s also useful, including social work or the arts.
Supply and demand. There’s less people in STEM so they get paid more.
After telling a generation of kids to get stem degrees or they’ll be doomed to flip burgers, I feel I have the responsibility to say this is no longer the case. The jobs still pay well but; between ghost job listings, recent layoffs, and every entry level job wanting like 4 years of hyper specific experience; I have observed it being nearly impossible to enter the job market or move around it right now, and the whole thing feels very oversaturated.
Unless you’re willing to build bombs. Don’t know much about that end of it cause I’m not interested in developing things intended to kill people. but that’s where the money is if that’s what you’re about.
Even the stock market is veering towards the military industry. Damn, things are looking very grim tbh.
Welcome to capitalism, are you new here?
I mean, it seems to imply a huge war is quite likely.
I mean yeah between Ukraine/Russia and Lebanon/Palestine/Israel It’s not hard to see why a bunch of capitalists would be bullish on defense right now. Don’t really need to look at the stock market to know that.
The learning lesson there is just how much money is invested in seeing war break out and creating need for more weapons. Anyone pushing for war very likely has a vested interest in seeing it happen, especially those with the means to shelter themselves from the consequences of war. Add in the fact that capitalists are very good at getting what they want from the US government, and even better at sheltering themselves from consequences.
So, is the war just “likely”, breaking out on its own out of nowhere, and capitalists just have a 6th sense for it, or is it being pushed and funded by capitalists who want the public to feel like war is inevitable so they will consent to escalating military intervention without much resistance?
The arts lol? Nothing but debt.
How many movies and TV shows do you watch? You think those things appear out of nowhere?
You think those people get paid a living wage?
Guillotine Party!
Universal healthcare, securities tax, punitive top-tier income tax. We can get rid of these parasites like we got rid of the robber barons, or we can do it like the French got rid of their first and second estate.
We can get rid of these parasites like we got rid of the robber barons,
Narrator’s voice: they actually never did get rid of them
There were times between the robber baron era and Reagan when families lived comfortably on the income of a single blue collar worker. That fact tells me that we were once able to effectively suppress the robber barons.
I don’t know what the true answer is but if you are indeed an American, and vote, never vote for a republican candidate, EVER. I am not saying democratic candidates are always better but Republicans are 100% of the time out to fuck over the young, the old, the different and poor. Unless you’re a deranged scumbag hell bent on making the world a worse place for the dispossessed, you have nothing to gain by electing a republican candidate. Also, unless it’s a local election, do not vote for 3rd party candidates in federal elections until their political machines show they are capable of fielding a coherent campaign and message.
As for working—find something with your local state government. It pays less but it is steady most of the time and the basic jobs do not require much of an education or knowledge-base.
But to the main point—keep going. Keep living your life as best you can. These ghouls who have all the wealth will die at some point, and fun fact… money really isn’t anything but an agreed upon hallucination so we could just kill and eat all those fuckers.
do not vote for 3rd party candidates in federal elections until their political machines show they are capable of fielding a coherent campaign and message.
Damn… Why are you giving DNC such a break?
These ghouls who have all the wealth will die at some point
And nepo babies will continue to rule the peasants!
I will never consider voting for a 3rd party candidate until their parties get someone elected to a local school board, a city council, a state legislative body, or the US congress. This is the foundational necessity of how our body politic functions. Running random asshole foreign assets for the Presidency on occasion is not how you operate a political party in this country and not how you affect any change (except making things worse, so… uh, good job Russia).
3rd party candidates literally only ever run for the Presidency in the US. (source: I live here)
They also generally purport to be far left leaning candidates (although this year’s crop leaves much to question). But really, they just take people’s money, complain about the status quo, and do literally nothing to help move things toward their (supposedly desired end) the political left.
Instead they (at best) steal some votes from young morons that would’ve likely gone to more liberal tickets (Democrats) and (at worst) enable the centrist and right wing machine to further dismantle any validity of the notion of “people should be allowed to not be taken advantage of by billionaires.”
Please tell me where any effort by the green or socialist parties successfully got a down ballot candidate elected in the past 10, 15, 20 years. Please tell me.
They are charlatans.
Yes, rich people will continue to win down ballot elections, because everyone ignores off year and local elections, because running a campaign is an expensive affair beyond the basic need of being a fucking extroverted lunatic in the first place.
