The atmosphere is so heated, and the statements are getting more and more extreme. Let’s just assume Harris wins the election. After a campaign like this, how could you ever have a normal relationship with your pro-Trump neighbor/father-in-law/Uncle/Barber or what ever again?

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    Yeah, I really can’t understand this. I have family and friends who vote differently to me, but I would never let that get in the way of our relationship, and I can’t understand the mentality of people who do.

    I mean, if someone I knew turned out to be a full on neo-Nazi, then I’d steer well clear. But if someone just votes for the other main party to the one I do, who cares?

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      If my father was on his death bed, chances are I’d put most of it behind me and would ignore a lot of past transgressions.

      OPs actions are a bit extreme. That being said, there isn’t much that separates a neo-nazi from a trump supporter in my mind. I can’t imagine anyone supporting him that isnt a complete piece of shit, and it is 100% a valid reason for cutting ties with people.

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        Politics change, but blood is thicker than water. The way people are writing off family instead of just talking to them is awful.

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          The way people are writing off family instead of just talking to them is awful.

          What makes you think we haven’t tried talking to them?

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            What makes you think we haven’t tried talking to them? Often times that detail is left out, and what you see or hear about is how they just don’t talk anymore.

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              Trust me, most of us have tried and tried and tried and tried and tried and tried. Some certainly may have preemptively cut people out without discussion, but most of us have beaten our heads against a wall for almost a decade now, trying to convince them that we’re human beings with dignity who deserve respect. We just withdraw from engagement, piece by piece, until there’s nothing lost by just giving up. Cutting them off is usually the last and most consequential move, rather than the first.

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                At the end of the day (or life), your mother/father was and forever have been, your mother and father. Family is immutable, giving up is reprehensible.

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                  I have friends who were abandoned by their parents and subsequently adopted. I lost a half-sibling with mental illness after their religious paternal family subjected them to actual exorcisms and other emotional trauma which eventually led to their suicide. My wife has a new 60-year old biological sister that she discovered 2 years ago via DNA. I have friends who cut ties with physically and sexually abusive parents. Family is quite mutable, we are under no obligation to hold fast to toxic blood relatives, and in many cases what we consider “reprehensible” depends entirely on how “reprehensible” the blood relative’s committed offenses are.

                  I’m going to assume you’re just arguing from extremely limited personal experience and save the long list of expletives I want to hurl at you on behalf of my friends and family because I’d prefer not to be banned from this community. Good day to you.

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                  If they treat you badly, cutting them out of your life is fine. No one should put up with that from anyone.

                  But cutting people out of your life purely because they vote differently to you is just weird and petty.

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      The problem is that said political party is in bed with if not just straight up neo Nazis now. Maybe ten years ago your perspective would be reasonable but it simply isn’t anymore.

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      Libs think there’s a difference between the parties and the Republicans are fascist. Republicans don’t see an actual difference which is where you’re at. Leftists don’t see a difference, but think both sides are fascists. I don’t sit down with fascists, but you do you

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        You assume my entire political philosophy and views based on the fact I’m civil with people?

        For the record, I’m in the UK and would vote Harris in the States.

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          Frankly, I think I nailed it. You’re comfortable around fascists because you’re supportive of fascists. Harris is a fascist, so is Trump. Without going into your comment history, I’m betting that you support the bombing of gaza. That you might understand that crime is a social construct, but also that criminals should be punished sometimes severely. It’s OK that you think it’s OK to sit down with a fascist. I’m of the opinion that it’s OK to punch them.

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            Only one of the two candidates is talking about turning the US into a dictatorship with them at the helm.

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              You’re right. The supreme court has said that the president can’t do anything illegally. What have the democrats done to reverse that? The democrats do the same things as republicans, but they’re more palatable. There’s a lot of people on the left that think Trump is the harm reduction candidate because people are upset when he does things.

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                So what you’re saying is that in order to not be fascists, the Dems would have to pull out some actually fascist dictatorial tricks in order to reset things?

                I’m sure you can imagine how well that would go.

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                  I’m saying, they haven’t even attempted to change things. They’re complicit.