It feels like Harris has to run a damn near flawless campaign just to BARELY beat this guy. Yeah you can bring up the current state of the country, but Trump mishandled COVID, there were over 200k deaths, BLM protest and was 2x impeached. And yet, Joe Biden BARELY beat him.

Trump is a convicted felon, liable sexual predator, caused an insurrection on the Capitol Hill, tried to steal the 2020 election (find me 11,000 votes), constantly kisses Russia’s ass, has more pending court cases and gets sentenced next month and overall has been the main driving factor in America’s division.

Yet, this race is STILL either 50/50 or a slight tilt (Harris leads the polling aggregate right now). Harris gets destroyed by the corporate media for almost anything, yet Trump is still lying and saying the most outlandish shit and nobody cares.

Why does it feel standards are much higher for Harris than Trump?

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    1: She’s a woman of color so she has to be 75% better than average for anyone to pay attention.

    2: Executed moral standards are more important to the left than the right. Declared moral standards are more important to the right.

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    I’ll take racism, sexism, propaganda and capitalism for 500 Alex.

    They’ve got pretty firm control of the business sectors through tax cut agenda. They’ve got pretty firm control of the farmers for the same. Through fear and propaganda they’ve got pretty strong control of the poor and some of the educated middle class in the rural areas. A lot of the red states are doing everything they can to impede their education systems. If you keep people from becoming educated there’s less competition at the top and a lot more red voters.

    All you’ve got to fight them are the poor and the middle class in the cities and suburbs and the occasional upper class that isn’t so self-serving that they’re willing to stand on everyone else.

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    It’s the same when it comes to any other countries. The right always gets away with corruption because it’s expected. Whereas the left has a higher moral standpoint so it is being accused of hypocrisy and things get blown out proportion even if small scale corruption occurs. For example in UK the previous government were giving jobs and contracts to friends and family all the time and nobody cried about it. It became accepted. The new left of centre government comes in and gives a temporary pass to a donor and suddenly it’s a huge scandal…

    It’s the same if you care for the environment and ever took a taxi somewhere, or a vegetarian or vegan and have shoes made out of leather. Sure you are doing better than everyone else to help but you are still the devil and worse than everyone else somehow…

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    you’re asking why fascists and leftists have different standards and morals?

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    Because too many people treat politics like a sporting event. You root for your team no matter what, and against the other team. You have to do it this way, because if the other side wins that means your side loses.

    So there are too many people who view Trump as “Their Guy”, and are “rooting” for him. Anything they hear that might portray Trump in a negative light (like a criminal trial, for instance) must be the Other Side trying to cheat to win unfairly.

    I remind people that Roger Ailes was Nixon’s media consultant, and the lesson he learned from Watergate was that Nixon could have gotten away with it if the media was more sympathetic. He then went on to be the CEO of Fox News. That’s no accident. There is a direct line from Nixon to Trump, and Roger Ailes drew it.

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      the lesson he learned from Watergate was that Nixon could have gotten away with it if the media was more sympathetic.

      Then we got Reagan, Bush, and Trump, and he proved it.

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        The media almost singlehandedly bringing Watergate to the average American’s attention was why Murdoch created Fox News. It was created specifically so they could force control of the narrative to their advantage.

        And then we allowed every other media corporation to be bought and do the same once they saw it worked so well.

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          The media almost singlehandedly bringing Watergate to the average American’s attention

          If you really get under the hood of Watergate, it had all the fingerprints of a soft coup. Nixon was a shit and made for an easy fall guy, but also Trumpian in his stubbornness and his refusal to go whole hog on the Cold War. Ford toed the line - installing Bush Sr to clean Kennedy’s liberals out of the CIA, promoting Greenspan and Rumsfield to the Republican inner circle, and tapping the breaks on our openness with China.

          There was no real reason to break into the Watergate given that Nixon was beating McGovern in a landslide. But it did a lot of favors for the movement conservatives like Goldwater and Reagan to get Nixon’s ass out on the curb.

          The WaPo (a hotbed of spooks even back then) played a big roll in that for a reason. Ffs, Woodward was an agency man going back to his time in Naval Intelligence. He broke Watergate less than a year after joining the paper.

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            Woodward going on to not reveal Trump’s admission that Trump knew exactly how dangerous COVID was and was purposefully downplaying it until Woodward published his book on Trump couldn’t be anymore revealing of capitulation to power while claiming to speak truth to power.

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      Seriously… A fucking toddler will be held to a higher standard than Trump and Republicans will hold that toddler to that standard while Trump could fart on the Queens grave and Republicans would just support his “strong thoughtful message”

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    The problem isn’t that Harris is being held to a higher standard. The problem is that Americans think of elections the same way they think of a sporting match. It’s “my team is going to win!” not “I’m going to vote for the candidate that is best aligned with my beliefs.” A huge number of the people who are voting Republican are doing so because the Republican party is their “team,” and damn it, their team is going to win even if it kills them.

    Many years ago, I was discussing politics with a coworker (always a bad idea, but whatever). It went something like this:

    “So, you don’t think the less-fortunate should be able to afford medical care?” “No, of course not, everyone should be able to see a doctor.”

    “You don’t think gay people should be allowed to marry?” “I’m not gay, but they can do whatever makes them happy.”

    “You support the war in Iraq, then?” “I support our troops, but the war is kind of a waste.”

    “We definitely should legalize weed, right?” “Um, I’d smoke it if I didn’t get drug tested.”

    “So why are you voting Republican, then?” “My family is Republican; we always do.”

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    A nice illustration is Republican media operatives are trying to attack Harris with “we checked with McDonald’s corporate and they have no record of her working there!”. For one, McD’s is franchisees and I doubt corporate tracks every burger flipper. Next, of course they’re trying to claim she’s dishonest, but what about the greater question: Did fuckin Trump ever come anywhere near McDonald’s? No, he inherited about $400 million, has misconstrued it it repeatedly (‘a small loan of a million dollars’, as if that is relatable either) and has never had any sort of normal job that required discipline or labor, ever.

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    Because the media is heavily conservative and advertising driven.

    Giving republicans new things to throw at Kamala is the #1 priority of the news right now because they need a close race to sell ads.

    Years of ownership by conservative billionaires and pundits has also saturated the media environment with a broad conservative tilt. This is why you don’t see a lot of articles about why like immigration went up under trump etc.

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      Indeed. Notice, too, that the concerns about Biden’s cognitive abilities have instantly stopped? He’s still the President, and still in charge of the nukes. But no more news stories.

      Meanwhile, the other guy has recently developed a habit of swearing at rallies, and there are a few articles about his wife asking him to knock it off, but nothing pointing out that a sudden increase in swearing is a symptom of dementia. At a town hall in La Crosse, WI the other day, he didn’t know why he was there at first. Still radio silence from the news media.

      Funny, isn’t it?

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    I keep seeing the same bozos say they’re the same

    One is literally a criminal rapist who has made tens of thousands of public lies, doesn’t pay contractors, and said obvious non sensensical stuff during covid leading to mass deaths and whose own ex staff warns he is an asshole.

    The other is a normal person you could probably eat lunch with. She’s absolutely normal.

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        That doesn’t mean she supports it. There’s evidence that even with Biden there were things potentially happening in the background to try to stop it. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-03/israel-accepts-joe-bidens-gaza-ceasefire-proposal/103926614

        Trump literally asked Russia publicly to find dirt on Hillary to win and praises dictators constantly.Kamala isn’t praising dictators.

        If Trump went to court for every crime he committed, he would have no time to campaign. In fact, with lawsuits they likely have to compress them and limit the contents to the worst offenders to facilitate their processing time.

        You haven’t heard even a small number of crimes that Mafia don has committed. But a guy who goes and laughs on social media when one of his followers attacked pelosis husband obviously supports assault.

        So just to clarify, Trump = actual criminal who uses violence to gain power Kamala = normal person

        You’re also assuming that Trump will end the war. He won’t. He’ll do what he normally does and just shout at both parties. If he gets forced out of office, he’ll sabotage the next president

        Walz in particular is ex military and I seriously doubt he is pro war either. There might be stuff happening in the background again we don’t know about (Trump will brag in public about every single thing he does, but sometimes negotiations require the opposite). It’s similar to criminal investigations which take a long time

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    Trump is an outrage machine, and we have a media that deals in an economy of outrage.

    Trump gets outrage. Outrage gets clicks. Clicks get money. It’s a pretty simple chain to follow.

    We need to wake up and realize that a profit-driven instantaneous news system that leverages strong emotions is not good for anybody. Truth is subjective nowadays, (always has been, really, but it’s especially evident in the current media climate) and all that matters is getting information and narratives (not necessarily facts) out and people consuming it (and all the ads embedded with it) there, first, and right now.

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      I am shocked to see this pseudofascist apologia so highly upvoted.

      It’s not the media’s coverage of the fascism that’s the problem.

      You would rather deflect blame to the media than point the finger at the fascism. Shame on you.

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        I don’t think the fascism would exist if it wasn’t profitable to give it a platform.

        It’s like My 600lb Life.

        Trump is the bedridden 800lb lump of a human. And the news cycle that brings him hamburgers by the pallet is the enabler spouse.

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          I don’t think the fascism would exist if it wasn’t profitable to give it a platform.

          That’s stupid!

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    Trump is more than a candidate. He validates and supports a state of mind. To many, he is a champion of a lifestyle and a way of thinking. That isn’t something that is easy to overcome.

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      I think this is a big chunk of it and the other large portion is the fact that the DNC picks terrible candidates to back. Harris is leaps and bounds better than Biden, but Biden was the nominee up until a monthish ago despite everyone’s objections. He barely beat Trump I’m 2020 and prior to that they backed Clinton who gave Trump four years in the White House to begin with.

      They need to stop catering to the right and fucking get behind the leftist people that actually support the party.

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      That’s the sad truth. Misogyny is not enough of an issue to sway American women as a voting bloc. They get it every day from people close to them and have internalised it to the point where it’s not a dealbreaker. Abortion however, is.