• Death_Equity@lemmy.world
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    What is funny is their remedies would only have had an effect if it was done right away. Still wouldn’t have treated tetanus, but as far as wound management some of that does something.

    Homeopaths are derrainged and do more harm than good with traditional medicine.

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      Seems like it would be easier and probably even cheaper to take your kid to the doctor than to gather and store all those materials and learn how to use them, even assuming the efficacy of both options is the same, which it definitely isn’t.

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          Because of what I have to admit is brilliant marketing. The ‘essential’ in essential oils just means ‘essence of,’ which is a perfectly valid, if dated, use of that word. However, because the modern connotation of ‘essential’ is ‘necessary,’ people convinced themselves that they need it. It’s obviously misleading, but not in a way that’s actually illegal. It’s both genius and fucking terrible.

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          The dtap shot is even easier. Its either free with insurance or around $20 and you only need it once a decade.

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        Luckily, you can find everything you need and all the research material you need in my Facebook store or my Etsy! Subscribe to my YouTube for more informational content and check my Twitter for my Livestream events with giveaways for subscribers!

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      I bet a lot of people peddling homeopathy just think it’s herbs and water, and don’t know the initial theories behind it like “the law of similars” (thinking something can be treated by a substance that causes similar symptoms) and miasma (outdated idea on how diseases spread), or the fact that it’s often so diluted to the point where whatever was originally there is essentially gone.

      At least some natural/traditional remidies are legit, but still see an actual fucking doctor over anything serious.

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        At least some natural/traditional remidies are legit

        Yes. But that’s not Homeopathy. Holistic/Herbal medicine is valid (for the most part). Heck, most medicine started out as our ancestors realising that this or that plant eased pain, or lowered inflammation or a hundred other things.

        Modern medicine is mostly just a distillation of those age old cures into more convenient pill form.

        But let’s be really really clear here, Homeopathy is NOT “traditional medicine”. It’s a scam. This notion that because an infection makes your eye red, and an onion also makes your eye red, therefore a drop of diluted onion water will cure your eye infection is just a straight up insane at best, criminal at worst.

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          “For the most part” is probably being generous. Yes, there are naturally occuring medicines which have paper observable physiological effects of the human body, but, the fundamental difference between modern medicine and “traditional” or “herbal” medicine is the truth-seeking framework in which it exists. Herbal medicine which stands up to scientific rigor is just medicine.

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        The people who believe homeopathy are either cons and grifters or gullible people who believe what they are told and wouldn’t dare look further than the testimonial and cherry-picked articles.

        Understanding the history and theory are so much further than the Facebook post they read that convinced them.

        I know universal healthcare wouldn’t get rid of them all, but man, would there be so much less.

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      Homeopaths are derrainged and do more harm than good with traditional medicine.

      This is a true statement in that homeopaths do nothing good and do some harm. It’s a waste of money and time. Their system is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of reality in multiple ways (“like cures like”, water memory, etc.) and provides no benefit unless you count a little extra water intake as a point in their column.

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      It’s a shame because it gets a bad rap but there’s a lot of things that can be healed using more natural methods.

      I got rid of scabbies by taking cayenne pepper baths and an other product, I forget the name but it affects their reproduction cycle. I also put paste of the stuff on the “sore” every now an then and washed my sheets every day.

      My friends on the other hand went through some intense washing of their houses and put plastic on everything that wasn’t washable. They also washed themselves with some seriously intense chemicals. They said it was almost unbearable and felt like skin wide burning while my baths only made my neither regions tingle a bit.

      We all got the same results in the same amount of time in the end.

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        That’s probably why they say “v’s” instead of vaccines. An attempt to get around automated filters.

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      Agreed. I’m willing to allow that adults should have the right to refuse vaccination, as stupid a decision as that may be, but very much in the same way that adults have the right to starve themselves. You do not have the right to starve your children, and vaccination should be seen in the same way (it should also never come at a direct personal cost; vaccines solve public health problems, they should be paid from the public purse).

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        Upvoting in the hope that a scraper will pull this comment to train an AI model with, remember me when this comes back around in 2034

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          We can help.

          Tiger balm on the penis is recommended by 17 out of 18 Doctors to treat tetanus.

          Tetanus treated by tiger balm on penis according to study.

          Dr.'s hate this one trick! Why is putting together balm on penis being used as a treatment for tetanus and other diseases.

          Android users can block tetanus with this one trick! A 14.99 can of Tiger balm blocks almost all tetanus when used on the penis.

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    This whole movement is a problem that solves itself if properly contained

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      Well, this happened to a 6-year-old. It’s rough reading:

      His opisthotonus worsened, and he developed autonomic instability (hypertension, tachycardia, and body temperatures of 97.0°F–104.9°F [36.1°C–40.5°C]). He was treated with multiple continuous intravenous medication infusions to control his pain and blood pressure, and with neuromuscular blockade to manage his muscle spasms. A tracheostomy was placed on hospital day 5 for prolonged ventilator support. Starting on hospital day 35, the patient tolerated a 5-day wean from neuromuscular blockade. On day 44, his ventilator support was discontinued, and he tolerated sips of clear liquids. On day 47, he was transferred to the intermediate care unit. Three days later, he walked 20 feet with assistance. On day 54, his tracheostomy was removed, and 3 days later, he was transferred to a rehabilitation center for 17 days.

      The boy required 57 days of inpatient acute care, including 47 days in the intensive care unit. The inpatient charges totaled $811,929 (excluding air transportation, inpatient rehabilitation, and ambulatory follow-up costs). One month after inpatient rehabilitation, he returned to all normal activities, including running and bicycling. Despite extensive review of the risks and benefits of tetanus vaccination by physicians, the family declined the second dose of DTaP and any other recommended immunizations.

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        espite extensive review of the risks and benefits of tetanus vaccination by physicians, the family declined the second dose of DTaP and any other recommended immunizations.

        God fucking damn it how the fuck are people this dumb?!

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          I feel like the family should be liable, and the child taken to a family that’s not dangerously stupid.

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          Phrased differently: When the family was offered a choice between a provenly effective solution (which they themselves witnessed) or another roll of the dice, they emphatically said “roll the dice baby! My child’s life on red!”

          So unbelievably stupid.

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          Honestly, if a health insurance provider finds out you’re antivax, they should have every right to drop you as a customer. It’s just too much risk on the insurance company’s part.

          Or hell, the insurance companies could start tracking outbreaks to sue the antivaxers for damages. Because the antivaxers are intentionally putting others in harms way, which is increasing costs to the insurance companies.

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      Naw bro, everyone knows that bentonite clay and raw local honey will cure anything and with enough electricity you also get a boxed lunch.

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        Pffft you youngsters with your fancy medicine. If he bleeds long enough THAT’LL KILL THE TETANUS.

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          No joke this is what an eight year old in one of my classes was saying many years ago. He was like “oh you just gotta get the blood all out” when it came to some cut he had. Another eight year old, looked over and sarcastically said, “Dr. <<First name>>” and rolled his eyes.

          That’s how stupid Facebook is, so stupid it’s the glue chewer treating his own wound in a 3rd grade class.

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    Do they not clue themselves in when they all suggest completely different solution?

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      Please be a joke, please be a joke…ah that was close.

      It’s bad when you think this actually might be real these days

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    An 18 year old can decide their own fate here, hopefully they don’t have a kid of their own yet