• Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Superman is such a single note character that the good things that came out of his existence can all be counted on one hand. I get that he was foundational to the concept of superheros, but it shows in this day and age.

    I will say the monologue in justice league while he’s slapping around Darkside is immaculate though.

    • Susaga@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      I disagree. Superman has as much depth as Batman. He’s just more morally pure, and people mistake “dark” for “complex”.

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      1 year ago

      The best thing to come from Superman is Lex Luther. No villain can go toe to toe with Supes, except maybe Doomsday, but does he really count as a villain? Mindless kill machine. Anyway, Lex has to beat Superman who can punch him into mist, or roast him by looking at him too hard, or literally blow him to the moon. How do you write a villain to counter that? By making them cunning and lovable to the public so that if Superman does any of those things, the public turns against him. Superman’s weakness isn’t only kryptonite, he craves social acceptance, if he didn’t he would just punch his way into being in charge and dare anyone to stop him. Lex gets how razor thin that edge is and takes full advantage.

    • androogee (they/she)@midwest.social
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      1 year ago

      Eh, Batman is exactly as single-note as Superman is.

      Superman requires very good writing from someone who understands what to do with the character.

      I’m pretty excited to see what Gunn does with him, tbh.

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        1 year ago

        That’s a fair comparison. Superman is powerful enough to always make the right choice, even when it’s hard. The appeal comes from Superman discovering and making the right choice.

        Batman makes the necessary choice (apart from killing), which isn’t always the right choice. The appeal comes from stories where Batman walks the line between criminal vigilante and hero who saves the day.