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just give me a battery i don’t have to tend to every fucking day or two. everyone just slaps a fat case in these flimsy ass phones anyway.
No, but hell no
Give me a chunky phone with a week long battery
It will weight more than kilogramme
Uhm IIRC typical battery is 2000 mAh/day, so one week battery is 14 Ah/day, which is 50 Wh assuming 3.7 V.
A typical sodium ion battery (which i very much like btw) typically holds 0.2 kWh/kg, so 200 Wh/kg, so to store 50 Wh, you’d need around 250g of battery.
For reference, i think smartphones should be about as heavy as an apple (fruit) which is 100g average. And the battery makes most of that weight (like, 80%). So the battery could be about 80g, which would store 16 Wh of energy. That would make about 4000 mAh. Which is what many phones today already have. Which lasts for 1-2 days.
I had an Oukitel that I ran for almost 4 weeks. Had to charge it for a trip off grid. Talk about chunky!
Might buy another model, but had to drop Verizon to get it working and T-Mobile took a week to figure out how to activate it. PITA, but it was solid once working. Great BT speaker, couldn’t kill the battery, everything worked great. Carrying the thing was a pain, even with a pack. Not sure I want all that mass again.
If you want a phone you can beat a man to death with, Oukitel it is!
Cheaper than I thought it’d be
Oh man, Til shit this brand, good shout!
With its ability to produce an 8D sound effect
Wow. They cracked string theory.
More seriously, does it have a 3.5mm jack?
Better yet, week long replaceable battery
Apple: here is your phone with a weak, long battery.
Regular sex will make your day.
But anal sex will make your hole weak.
Kill the bump! Give me better cooling and battery life with replaceable battery.
and battery life with replaceable battery.
You mean a $99 magsafe powerbank that only fits on this specific phone doesn’t satisfy you as a replaceable battery?
/s
Wait… the magsafe battery is tied to a specific phone serial? I can’t get the magsafe battery and lend it to my buddy who is low on battery at the moment?
No, I meant it only fits on the iPhone 17 Air, not other iPhones. If your buddy also has an iPhone 17 Air he can borrow yours
Oh. At least that, I guess. But if it’s just a magsafe battery pack, shouldn’t it be compatible with any other models that accept wireless charging with a magsafe?
No.
-Apple
I can understand people wanting “smaller" screens cause they don’t have huge hands/pockets
But slimmer phones when the cheapest ones (< 200€) already are like 8mm, I don’t really get it, at this point it’s just a structural weakness, like the geth would say
The only advantage would be to have a bulky phone case while still maintaining a 6 or 8 mm width, but still it wouldn’t prevent your phone from bending
I was recently messing around with an iPod touch 5th gen, with dimensions 4.86 inches (123.4 mm) in height, 2.31 inches (58.6 mm) in width, and 0.24 inches (6.1 mm) in depth. It weighs approximately 3.10 ounces (88 grams). It felt fantastic in the hand and I want a phone that size now.
I was near an Apple store a few days ago and tried out the iPhone air, it was honestly really nice in the hand. I wouldn’t buy one, but seeing in person, I kinda get it.
I’d kill for a modern iPhone 4 form-factor with Android or Linux.
I’d love to see a modern specs Nexus 4. Loved that phone!
You clearly have not watched Zack’s YT on this. The big ones bend and break way sooner. It’s not even close.
My guess, what we are witnessing here with the Air is just a stepping stone to a foldable. As a standalone I’m with you, it’s the inferior phone. Just not because of the structural weaknesses - it’s not weak at all - but due to smaller battery, less cameras and less speakers.
Oh, and case less gang checking in.
Apple got rid of the headphone jack but not the camera bump…
This is why you spend much money for name brand phone protector!
Not to make phone tough…
…but so…
… it can sit level on flat surface!
Next version isn’t even going to have a camera. You’ll just generate the image
the phone will just generate shit all the time - texts, voices, images, music - all to post on AI-gen only social media. And it doesn’t even need human interaction to do that but you are legally obligated to buy 12 of these per year or you will be deported to Moldova.
As somebody who extensively travelled to Moldova for the wine, food, and the parties I say, not too bad. I’ll be in the first train
It’s really funny to me that we’re having these conversations all over again. I had the Moto Z back in 2016 and it was almost half a mm thinner than the 2025 iPhone Air. (As always, here’s Apple still playing catchup, a decade later this time.)
I honestly didn’t mind it - the Moto Z had a Moto Mods battery that snapped on the back (in a MUCH more elegant manner than Apple’s magsafe battery implementation in my opinion) and so I always knew that was an option if the battery life became a concern over time. And I loved that the extended battery made the back of the phone perfectly flush with the camera bump too, so if you elected to add battery life, it was literally what we’ve all asked for the whole time: Just make it thicker and add battery. But if you didn’t need extended battery life, then you had a razer thin phone (and a camera bump), probably the thinnest I had until the Fold7 at 4.2mm.
I wish that Motorola’s solution had stuck, because they solved this problem already, meanwhile everybody is here reinventing the wheel over and over again in 2025. 🤦
I have no problem with functional protuberances. In fact, I wouldn’t mind seeing more, such as a universal mounting connector of some sort? I don’t know if I am atypical in this regard, but I like mounting my phone on things. Handlebars, car dashes, tripods, mic stands, etc. There are solutions for this, but they invariably involve something wrapping around and blocking some of the front side of the phone, which has become increasingly problematic over the years with screens pushing towards the edges. My bike holder sometimes blocks the front-facing camera needed to unlock the iPhone, for example. But if there were something on the back side that a mounting bracket could securely latch onto, none of this would be a problem.
Do phones really need to be so skinny? Part of the reason I always get a case is not only for protection, but also to deliberately make it a little thicker.
This has become one of the useless marketing figures everyone chases because they made it seem important in the first place.
I absolutely prefer having something a bit thicker, as it fits the palm better.
No, they’re just desperate for some kind of differentiator at this point because phones haven’t meaningfully changed in five years. Hell, maybe ten.
Yeah, the only real improvements in phones over the last decade are the adoption of USB-C and the addition of extra camera lenses, and I never really use the extra lenses on my phone.
I replaced my 2016 Galaxy S7 last year with a Motorola G32 mainly because the Galaxy wasn’t holding a charge or getting software updates anymore. The G32 is actually lower in spec in a few ways (lower-resolution screen, no wireless charging) but it’s still more than adequate for my needs, has a headphone jack and MicroSD slot and supports LineageOS (although I haven’t installed that yet.)
Even the S7 upgrade wasn’t strictly necessary but I saw a good deal and didn’t like the way my LG G2’s volume buttons were on the back.
We’re well past the point where smartphones should’ve been fully comodified and where we should be able to get generic versions based on common standards (i.e. a common platform open to OS developers without the need for a specialized build for each phone.)
I don’t mind a camera bar (or “visor”). It’s better than the stupid bump they used to use, because it’s stable, and it also provides a slight angle that makes the phone a little more visible when it’s laying on a desk.
What I don’t like is a super thin phone that has no meaningful battery and is easy to bend. “Bend” means that dropping it results in more than just shock force.
Stfu. Only psychos carry around a naked phone.
‘Sup?
‘Sup?
I would prefer it if there was a raised lip around the lenses - like you get when you put a case on. That protects (to a degree) the lens of the hideously expensive camera phone you just bought.
Seriously. How did we get to the point where so many phones are designed for you to set them down directly on the camera lens? What are we doing?
This perfectly illustrates my gripes with whatever is driving the trend of these super thin phones.
First, is anyone even asking for phones to be thinner? Then there’s the camera bump sticking out like a wart. And beyond that, it gets put into a bulky case anyway which negates the super thin thing entirely.
one has to wonder what the ideal thickness is, are we supposed to think it’s just never thin enough? will we have phones that literally cut into the skin of your hand as you hold it and they still brag about how the new model is 4 atoms thinner?
it’s not like they’re getting easier to hold, modern phones are so huge that you need a popsocket for it to be reliably and comfortably held.
modern phones are so huge that you need a popsocket for it to be reliably and comfortably held.
Idk, I think this is just a small hands problem tbh, my hands are pretty average for a guy I think and I have had 0 issues comfortably holding big phones. Even right now I have a P9 Fold and the accompanying case makes it even bigger
Well, thing is women have smaller hands than men on average, and they do make up 50% of the population.
I have no idea but they keep making them thinner for…reasons?
My personal “sweet spot” is the OnePlus 3. Not too tall, thin but not unbearably so, and doesn’t sacrifice anything for headphone jack and a decent size battery. Though if I had a choice between “thin” and “removable battery”, I’d take the extra thickness required for the battery cover in a heartbeat. I’d also accept several more mm of thickness if they want to include a slide-out keyboard.
The iPhone 4/SE1 was the perfect design.
No real camera bump, single hand hold, light, durable with a metal back.
If we just added a modern OLED screen, and a modern chip and battery, that design would be perfect.
The 13 mini was close but the stupid camera bump ruined it, bring back the sleek slab
As soon as they figure out long distance wireless charging, I wouldn’t be surprised if all phones become collapsible or wearable, negating the need to hold it awkwardly.
I actually like thin phones. I find them easier to hold, but I would gladly sacrifice the camera hump for a completely flat back.
Before looking for thin phones, look for phones that don’t have a glass back so that not having a case is an actual option.
Been rocking my iPhone 11 Pro Max with no case for a long time.
It’s fantastic.
They still have glass fronts man. Five-ish feet drop onto the screen against concrete with no case? Doesn’t matter what the back is.
Glass backs mean that almost any fall will damage it, but non-glass backs only eliminate cases if you can somehow ensure it never lands face down or on a corner.
Glass backs have very low friction. Set the thing down in bed and its natural floor seeking instincts kick in.
That’s not an option anyway. Metal scratches and dents too easily for that to be viable.
Hear me out: wood
I think what people want is longer-life, user replaceable batteries. They didn’t need to be thinner. Apple says, “Look! It’s thinner! Thinner is better!”, so the fanbois say “Look mine is better because it’s thinner, Apple said so!”
