Serious answers only. For over a year I was told that trump “doesn’t have anything to do with that”.

I honestly need to know from an actual Republican who believed trumps words and is now witnessing p2025 almost hit 50% completion with the department of education getting dismantled.

And with that; how do these people feel that public schools, daycare centers and tech schools all going to cost 3-6x as much as it does now for tuition?

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      Truth.

      Some will call Lemmy an echo chamber. Personally, I don’t give a damn. Sharing platforms with far-right lunatics is a deeply unpleasant experience.

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        It would be one thing if we were debating different ways to solve health care, education, incarceration, mental health, homelessness, wealth inequality, or something else.

        While I personally think the right is wrong in their solutions I’d be happy to debate them.

        But the right isn’t talking about these issues or solutions for them. You can’t have a debate when you’re talking about two completely different things.

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          Not just different things, but whether those things even exist

          Like, I’m all about debating the best approaches to fighting climate change. I’m not about debating whether it exists.

          You can’t debate solutions when you disagree about what the problem is

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        I don’t need dumbass opinions in any chamber I’m occupying, Republicans can stay gone for all I care

        I like to fuck with em when I can. Keep the space hostile to them, it worked for punk bars it works for us.

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        As much as I can understand your point, it’s a truth that if you can argue against your beliefs, you have a full understanding of both sides. You should be well versed in order to provide a solid understanding. Just as one side wants the other to hear reason, there has to be a common ground somewhere.

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          That’s fantastic advice. Every now and then you gotta check yourself. Those MAGA folks don’t know they’re brainwashed, and honestly, neither would any of us. Nobody is too smart for propaganda!

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            Those MAGA folks don’t know they’re brainwashed, and honestly, neither would any of us.

            I challenge this line of reasoning. All that is required is asking the question “is that true?”, then attempting to answer that question. There are very few modern conservative talking points that cannot be riddled with holes via 10 min of googling. I understand that people of western society have had our attention robbed of us, but all that is required is a desire to know the truth. They don’t. They want to have an interesting story that triggers their emotions. I will not abide apologies for anyone still supporting the MAGA agenda.

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              Oh for sure. I did a deep dive into Fox News to try to understand where they were coming from and it’s all just blatant bullshit. And I honestly tried to find at least one valid argument that I probably wouldn’t agree with.

              Just gotta check every now and then.

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          Understanding the other side doesn’t mean there will be a common ground. Understanding nazis doesn’t mean there is common ground to share with them.

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            The problem is literally that people keep labeling anything slightly right of genderqueer marxist-lenninist a “nazi”. There’s plenty of common ground between what Lemmy considers a “Nazi” and actual Nazis.

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      Even if you got a response it will likely not be genuine. They’d rather save face than say they were wrong.

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      “What do you mean you arent forced into 2 sentences max and have to structure your thoughts ??2?”

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        More like “how do I make an account? I give up. Fucking immigrants ruining my signup process”.