I’ve been thinking about this a lot recently. I’m sure a lot of you have. For my part, I’ve been finally writing down my political experience, what I saw, etc…in a way that I think might be able to move some people on the right. But I also agree with this post. People always talk/write, etc…and rarely actually take action.

So, with that in mind, can we talk about what that looks like? Very specifically?

I suppose I’m hoping we can go a step beyond “go protest,” having unanimously agreed that we should all be out en masse to make it clear we’re pissed about…well…kinda everything.

But this is a fairly radical bunch. So, what do you all know about this? What concrete advice/tips/plans/ideas can we dumbass individual Americans learn from historic examples, political movements, etc…? Indeed, one of those questions might be: is this even the place to talk about this? If not, where? Does that already exist somewhere in the aether out there? Communications is always an interesting to me (I’ve wondered whether something like LoRa could be useful to setup in my area).

If I want to start a group locally, are there things I should think about? Practical tips beyond “talk to everyone you know?” Books to read? Etc…? Even if you get a group, it’s easy for it to mean nothing. How do you make it not mean nothing?

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    I’m a software developer. I’ve done a bunch of volunteering with protest/political groups. They rarely need my software skills

    Instead: join a group, listen, figure out what they need, and do that.

    Are they bad at organizing? Take minutes and set dates.

    Are they trying to take donations? Offer to set up the bank account and track expenses.

    Do they need a place to meet? Offer to schedule a room at the local library.

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    Find people in your area. Do tangible organizational things in real life.

    Don’t waste time making solutions in search of problems. Some doodad isn’t going to help anyone. Nobody is wiring up an arduino lora whatever gadget. ‘B-but just buy the modules and conn…’ Stop. It’s useless. Doesn’t help anyone. No on is fidgeting with an Arduino sketch and some antenna wires and checking the 18650 battery while trying send packets to a guy over there. None of this matters when you’re all getting pepper sprayed with boots on your neck.

    You can pull out the RF gear when the nukes have sent us back to the stone age.

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      I think you’re right. Good call. I shouldn’t have even mentioned the LoRa thing. It’s one of those romantic notions I’ve had in the back of my head and I don’t even know enough about it to suggest it as a practical solution to anything, much less here. I guess I was just getting at, “ARE there communications tools/platforms/organizational structures worth considering for an effort of this sort?”

      Probably should have asked that instead of, “How to La Resistance!?”

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        I think it’s still a valid question if you frame it along the lines of “something useful at protests, but also in everyday peaceful life”.

        Meshtastic LoRa is worth looking into if you’re going to protests with friends/family/cohorts. You can get a waterproof, GPS enabled, credit-card sized module with multi-day battery life and no flashing required for $35 (T1000-E). That’s specifically because it can also be used when hiking, going to festivals, or just for fun.

        I was just at a Mardi Gras parade and text messages couldn’t go through due to network congestion from too many people. With a couple of meshtastic devices our phones could still text each other and see our GPS positions on a map. All with encryption enabled.

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    In the US, you have a second amendment right to have a firearm. Most states, even blue ones, allow open carry of rifles and long guns provided that you follow certain rules (i.e. no pointing them at other people, keep them unloaded, etc). That is to say, in many states, you are perfectly within your rights to open carry a long gun at a peaceful protest. And if a bunch of your friends bring long guns, well, hey, that’s legal too! And hey, if a whole lot of people at the protest have guns with them when the cops decide they want to be fucking dicks, well, then I guess that’s one of the decisions they were free to make.

    For reference of how open carry at protests can weigh on how the authorities respond, see the documentary Winter on Fire.

    Also, you don’t have to start crazy, going to big huge protests hundreds of miles away. Start out easy, go to some city council and county supervisor meetings and speak publicly about what you think is important. You’ll meet other people there and have a chance to network and organize with them, and make connections to bigger movements that way.

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    There’s all sorts of action that we can take, but the challenges in prescribing a national plan of action is simply too much without a national organizing committee. One of the most important aspects of successful mass movements requires the participation of labor/unions. That’s why, when asked a question like this, I always start by recommending that you form a union at your workplace. Organizing is a skill just like any other, and you can develop it by actively learning in a real campaign. It will give you the toolset and connections necessary to learn how to start political and community organizing. CWA offers a union organizer course every weekend, which is a fantastic starting point to learn how it’s done.

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      Thanks for the heads-up, that’s exactly the kind of thing I’m looking for/hoping people will mention here. It’s a little bit ironic that the first big issue of the post is, “Wait, that’s not allowed here!” But that’s exactly one of my points. Say I decide to just organize a rally. I have some relevant experience, but in the past, I would be using Facebook/Twitter, etc… That seems potentially ill-advised here. It feels like some forethought about structuring the thing is worthwhile, before just “planning a big protest/rally.” That is not really a whole lot in and of itself, in my view, unless you have a plan for, “Okay, but then what? What’s next?”

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    Number 1 priority: secure communications. Always assume that every single letter you send that isn’t end to end encrypted WILL be read by your adversary.

    USA already reached “TIA”(total informational awareness) around 2013, cfr. Snowden leaks.

    One can only assume that they have since gained the ability to decypher and map all communications sent over the clearnet bar none. Disregard this advice at your own peril.

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      For a small group that isn’t planning to break laws, this can be a pain in the butt. If the group is organizing a public protest or boycott, this is a barrier to entry for other participants.

      An alternative is open communications: as a group, agree not to break any laws, agree not to joke about breaking laws, and then use whatever works for everybody.

      If you are planning to break laws, give’r.

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        This is exactly the kind of thing I’m talking about. To generalize: you can post an event on Facebook/X. You can post it on Lemmy. You can post it on Signal and be totally invite-only.

        Sort of different “levels,” each with pros/cons, the most “secure” level being the most-difficult to grow.