I’ve been here and on Kbin since the Great Reddit Migration of '23. However it seems Kbin has gone the way of the dodo for now. So I’m looking for something similar, any suggestions?
There’s a community fork of Kbin called Mbin. See https://joinmbin.org
Dave’s suggestion is the best if what you want is something like kbin, because it is, well, kbin but with work continuing on it.
A popular example mbin server, if you want to take a look:
If you’re just looking for a compatible-with-lemmy-but-not-lemmy server, and not specifically in search for something like kbin:
I thought that there was at least one other project, but damned if I can remember or find it.
EDIT: Right, piefed.
If what you’re okay with lemmy, but don’t like the lemmy Web UI, then there are some alternative frontends. My own home instance runs several, which you can take a look at. A number of other lemmy instances also do so:
mlmym (a lookalike for old.reddit.com):
Photon (looks like it’s not working on my home instance ATM, so here’s lemmy.world’s):
Voyager:
https://m.lemmy.today/posts/lemmy.today/all
Alexandrite:
https://alexandrite.lemmy.today/lemmy.today
slemmy:
leanish:
https://natoboram.github.io/Leanish/
lemmyBB: I don’t know of functioning instances running this, but they may be out there:
Ummm… Lemmy…?
I mean, you’re literally already on it.
There are instances that have defederated from Lemmy that
arewere on Kbin. I like to keep an open mind and seek more points of view.I’m not leaving here, just broadening horizons.
You are allowed to make accounts on other instances, you know
Ah, if you just want something other than the lemmy.world instance, but are okay with lemmy-the-server-software, you can get a list of other lemmy instances here:
https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list
And since I mentioned the other instance types above, for mbin:
https://mbin.fediverse.observer/list
Kbin:
https://kbin.fediverse.observer/list
Piefed:
https://piefed.fediverse.observer/list
A couple of recommendations, if you want another instance. I don’t know what “broadening horizons” here deals with.
You can see what instances a given lemmy instance has defederated with at
/instances
. So for lemmy.world:I can’t link there directly, unfortunately, but click on “Blocked Instances” and you’ll see a list.
Note that defederation is not symmetric – that is, instance A can defederate from instance B, even if instance B doesn’t defederate from instance A, so knowing whether two instances can really interoperate really requires checking both of their defederation lists, if you’re looking for access to a particular instance.
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My own view is that lemmy.world is a pretty decent general-purpose instance.
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I use lemmy.today because they specifically have, as a policy, that they try not to defederate with other instances (which it sounds like is something that you care about), that they want to let the users choose want content to see. It’s on the West Coast, US, which may-or-may-not be near you. So if you’re on there, you can browse anything…but it doesn’t have a huge userbase, at least not yet, and an instance needs to have users that subscribe to new content before it shows up in an all feed. So you may want to hit https://lemmyverse.net/communities to find new communities to subscribe to, rather than just sitting in the “All” feed (which I don’t personally think is a great way to find new communities anyway, but…)
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beehaw.org is generally more restrictive than most instances, so it probably isn’t what you were after, but it defederated from lemmy.world some time back, so if you’re after their content, you might want an account there or an account on an instance that it has not defederated from. I’m not really enthusiastic about their moderation policy, but they do consistently have solid discussion, IMHO.
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lemmy.dbzer0.com is run by the ex- /r/piracy lead moderator on Reddit, and is aimed at piracy. Lemmy.world has not defederated, though I can imagine that some instances might, so if that’s what you’re after…
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lemmynsfw.com is, AFAIK, currently the main “mainstream pornography” instance. There is some content that isn’t permitted there, but I believe that mainstream pornography is going to be acceptable there. lemmy.world has not defederated from it, so you shouldn’t need to get another account elsewhere to access content on on it, but I’m pretty sure that some others have, so some other users might want to get another account if that’s what they’re looking for. Like, I remember that on my first few days over here, I ran into a policy discussion on aussie.zone, where the admin there decided that he didn’t want pornography to be accessible through his server, so I bet that it isn’t accessible there. checks Yeah, aussie.zone defederated from lemmynsfw.com.
There are various special-purpose instances, like https://pawb.social/ for furries or https://mander.xyz/ for science, but I don’t think that these are likely to have most general-purpose instances defederate from them. So you probably don’t need another account off lemmy.world if those are what you’re after and you’re wanting more content than is accessible from lemmy.world.
Looking at lemmy.world’s defederation list, from a quick skim, the stuff there tends to fall into a few categories:
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Far-right stuff that doesn’t get along with others, like https://skinheads.social/
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Far-left stuff that doesn’t get along with others, like https://hexbear.net/ or https://lemmygrad.ml/
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Underage anime porn, which is illegal in some locales, like https://burggit.moe/ or https://headpat.cafe/ (pleroma, not lemmy). Burggit.moe, as I recall, also deals with consentual-nonconsentual content.
So if you’re looking for anything there, you can probably just grab one of said instances and get an account there, as I doubt that they’d defederate from other instances that deal with similar content (though I dunno, not familiar with any drama there…lot of fractious far-left groups in the world who don’t like other far-left groups).
If what you want is just more communities than are currently available, then you don’t need to join a given instance to access content on it. As long as your instance is federated with it, you can post and read posts there and such. Note that content from a remote community will only show up on your instance if at least one user on your instance has subscribed to that community…but that doesn’t mean that you can’t get at that content. You just need to try to go to that community. Your instance will tell you that it’s not familiar with it. For example, to try to see the “foo” community on mander.xyz (which doesn’t really exist), you can just try to go there. For lemmy.world, that’d be:
https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected]
It’ll ask you if you want to trigger a search for such a community. If you do so, wait a sec, and then you’ll have the option to view the community and subscribe to it; after you do so, your home instance will start receiving posts and comments for that community. Can also just plug in “!community@instance” into the search field for communities on your instance, and it’ll do the same.
If you want to find new communities not yet visible from your home instance, I recommend using lemmyverse.net, which uses a bot that builds an index of all communities out there:
https://lemmyverse.net/communities
Note that by default, that will filter out communities flagged as NSFW (i.e. pornography and such). You’ll need to check the box at the top to cycle through showing those as well (or showing only those).
I also visit https://lemmyverse.net/communities just for a broader view, fairly often.
Yeah, same (and just updated comment to mention it). I kind of wish that there was a better way to direct people there or to some sort of interface that’s functionally-equivalent, because it really isn’t obvious that it’s there to new users, and it really is important to find new communities, at least as things stand.
Oh, and sometimes, if you think that someone’s an interesting poster, it might be worth looking at their posting history to see if they hang out other places that you might want to also frequent.
I do that! I also “follow” people who have interesting post histories, and also sort by “newest.” Your post was in depth and therefore amazing, so I thank you and am appreciate.
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What happened to Kbin?
I’ve been on it like twice but never really got into it.
It’s been down for a while, and my (poor and not entirely informed) understand is that the Admin is on hiatus for an unknown amount of time
That’s pretty much it , and where I started. I went onto sh.itjust.works, but the latency between my device and their server got so bad, I’ve not been there in a few weeks. Currently on kbin earth.
On that note, I don’t know if there’s any website that will have your browser request the root page on various sites and return one with a low average time – probably one out there somewhere.
Fediverse.observer does show the country that one is located in.
If you’re on a Linux system, there’s a utility which is designed to check ping time to a list of servers and find the one with the shortest average network latency called
netselect
. That isn’t necessarily the one that will serve up pages the quickest, since it could be that the server software is overloaded, and that it takes it longer to build the page.That’s pretty awesome, thanks for that. I’m almost done with a project and plan to dl and install Linux in the next few months, hopefully.
I think it was originally intended to be a relatively-small project by the creator, who did not expect to have the thing grow quite as much as it did and seemed to have some conflicting time issues.
Similar in what way?