• some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    I saved this info to a file on my computer in case the Google Sheet doc goes away. Don’t be passive. Take some action, no matter how small.

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      I don’t really need the sheet, but this comment compelled me to download it anyway

      Nothing stresses me out more than FOMO

      If you’re reading this like 5 years from now and the doc is gone, feel free to reply or DM me or the guy I’m replying to. I will probably still have it, unless I get hit by a bus or something

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      Good plan. I will do the same. Although you might go back and do it periodically, because the list started a few days ago with only 150 names on it.

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    Any document for doctors who will actually listen and not make incredibly fucking idiotic observations about completely irrelevant medical topics? Asking for at least half the population of women in the U.S. who have gone in with a legit problem and been verbally pushed aside and not listened to.

    “When was your last period?”

    “I came in to be prescribed anti-depressants. I have been officially diagnosed.”

    “Yes yes, but how is your uterus?”

    “I am going to need anti-psychotics if you keep this up.”

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      I was thirteen years old when I went to the doctor by myself because a cut on my eyelid wasn’t healing. I was asked about my birth control, sexual activity, and whether I thought I could be pregnant (after saying I’ve never had sex) then pushed out of the examination room after NOT having my eye examined at all.

      As an adult, I realize now how terrible that was and I would have done something about it if it had happened to me today. But at the time I was so embarrassed and hurt, I just pushed all thought of it away until years later.

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        What the hell? That’s so wack and useless. Stating the obvious, I know. Just saying I feel for your and others who may have had to deal with that kind of behavior.

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    Something makes me uneasy about this being a Google sheet, you need to use credentials to view it and someone has a log of who has accessed it…you can probably even see who’s viewing it in realtime

    Use an anonymous account! Or someone should host this on a website or something with higher privacy

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      The other side is concerning as well. This list could also be used by individuals looking to do some targeted harassment. Or worse.

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    Is there a penisologist for this too? I need an expert in cocktology. A referral to a peepeediatrician should do.

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      Urologists do vasectomies and they don’t generally harass guys about their reproductive choices because sexism (vasectomies being easier to reverse is probably a factor too).

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        I got my vasectomy done through Planned Parenthood. I had to go in for a screening first where they asked questions like, “Are you sure you want to do this?” and I said yeah and they said, “Really sure?” and I said yeah, so they said “OK cool, come back in two weeks and we’ll snip snip.”

        Very easy process, highly recommend.

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          When I broached the subject with my doctor he asked how many kids I have. I said 0. He seemed to have more of a personal reaction as if a friend had said that and he started to push back ever so slightly saying something like “but kids are great”. I just responded matter of factly that that shouldn’t matter. He instantly snapped out of it and back to doctor mode, apologized, and set up the referral. I was snipped inside a month with not another whisper of hesitancy from anyone.

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          Had mine done through the NHS. Basically two questions, “do you have children already” and “how long since your last child was born?”.

          If you haven’t had kids yet, you just need to explain why you want a vasectomy, usually with a specialist. If your last child was born less than two months ago, they want you to wait (apparently a lot of men’s first reaction to the realities of having a baby is to try to ensure it won’t happen again).

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            Why should I have to explain my choices regarding my body? Take my money and do your job or don’t and I’ll go to someone else who will.

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                  NHS = National Health Service

                  It’s what we have in the UK, and essentially means that all your health care is free.

                  Vasectomy = free. Having a baby in hospital = free. CAT scan = free. Insulin = free.

                  Admittedly, it’s paid for in taxes, but at a small fraction of the cost of the American way of doing things.

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              Because medical ethics requires some degree of confidence that you’re not making a permanent decision that you’ll regret.

              Unnecessary hurdles like mandatory waiting periods, refusing to do it without someone else’s consent, or refusal to do it at all if you’re childless are wrong, but making sure someone understands the procedure and it’s consequences and that what they’re asking for is actually solving the complaint they want to solve is just being responsible.

              Doctors aren’t mechanics.

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              Because sometimes its about protecting yourself from yourself.

              Making sure someone wants a vasectomy because they have all the children they want is a different thing from wanting a vasectomy as a jump scare reaction to just having had a baby and oh shit oh shit, let me do something I’ll regret later.

              Fully agree that doctors take precautions with procedures that are hard to reverse or potentially irreversible.

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        Holup. Is that a penis specific doctor or is there no penis specific doctor while everyone is going around saying vagina science is way behind penis science because societal level discrimination?

        Also, literally everyone I meet who hears about it gives me shit for my choice to never have kids, and I’m a guy. Just because you don’t experience it doesn’t mean guys don’t also take shit from the baby crazy people. I’m an antinatalist.

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          Women also have urinary tracts so no, Urologists treat both sexes. Believe it or not gynecology was very sexist in the era where only men could be doctors. The presence of a specialty does not preclude it from bias and harm.

          Also saying penis specific and vagina specific is really missing the mark, it’s generally the internal stuff that is more of an issue (prostates for men, womb, ovaries and fallopian tubes for women).

          Men are generally more permitted by traditional western society to pursue things outside of raising a family than women are, and as with most things personal experience can and will vary.

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            Gynecology probably used to be really bullshit and run by dudes who just wanted to deal with vagina for a living.

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          I can’t speak for that myself but my brother said he had a very easy time with his.

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      Yes, it’s called “keep it in your pants if you want your partner to get pregnant and she doesn’t want to because abortion is illegal in a lot of states now.”

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        Keep it in my pants is my strategy anyhow because I’m an antinatalist and do not gamble with my ethics. There isn’t a scenario where I’m trying to impregnate someone who doesn’t want it, so don’t come at me with a chip on your shoulder like that.

        I had a friend who was born despite his father’s vasectomy. I don’t care what the odds are. I don’t play with odds.

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          I’m guessing the odds are so slim that vasectomy plus condom is so close to impossible statistically speaking that you would be safe. I’m not trying to criticize your personal choice, which is perfectly valid.

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            I’d rather jerk it than bother with a condom and my cosmic tier anxiety about the universe I live in trying to peg me with a ‘gotcha’ and beating me up over failing to handle my own desire. I’ll handle it.

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              I had kids when I got together with my now-husband and he did too, and I had a history of literally falling pregnant each of the times I didn’t use birth control, so he was vasectomized AND I had IUD put in, together this was as good as science can do now and it worked perfectly. Vasectomy can regrow but IUD is very reliable.

              I guess if sex isn’t important to you then enjoy, or if you can enjoy sex with men that would also be 100% no chance of pregnancy. But for me, it’s such a wonderful part of life, letting fear rule it seems bad.

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                I can’t say I’m not horny as fuck. I just deal with it. It’d be pretty convenient to be gay. 🤣