Gee, the title sure is sensationalist. Nothing has been ‘won’ yet. The actual percentage here don’t matter, the system works using two rounds in each circonscription (subdiv of France which can elect 1 MP). What really matters now is who will call to vote for who. The NFP (Left Alliance) leaders said no vote for Far Right, and Macron (in spite of how much he shat on the left) called for a ‘grand coalition against the RN’ (RN being Far Right here).
And I’ll repeat it as many times as it takes 34% IS FAR FROM 50% (The RN is unlikely to find allies, as all the traitors of the trad right wing party have already gone to them)
Edit: forgot to mention that not all votes have been counted yet, the big cities finishing up later, which will likely drive the NFP’s score up and RN’s down.
I get that immersion tends to normalization…
… but man, 34% is still a LOT. Especially when it’s 2x the previous result and the largest bloc.
It’ll be good if they are prevented from having easy access to legislative action, but it’s still an underpants-threatening result in my book.
34% is already lower than what they polled (and it will go down more as cities’ vote get counted). Though, you are right, the normalization of Far Right IS scary af. But it’s not a recent thing in France, it started nearly two decades ago, but surged to an extreme during the past few years esp with:
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Bolloré (our own personal Murdock) bought more and more media, fired the journalists, and put propagandist in their place.
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Macron started taking Far Right’s talking points (immigration), language (‘national preference’, which is a concept that makes no sense) and methods (just two days ago, his party made, published and propagated on social media a fake ‘NUPES’ (name of the last Left Alliance) website to calculate one’s future pension based on their ‘program’. As it turns out, the calculations were not based off their program at all and was nearly always defavorable to the person)
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Macron, when asked about the surge of Far Right, had only one response: bUt WhAt aBoUt tHe LeFt? (And goes on and on to try and sell a ‘both sides’ to try and make himself more popular. Spoilers: it didn’t work) It’s also why it’s refreshingly suprirsing to not hear him bash ‘theLleft’ tonight, and instead call on everyone to vote against Far Right.
FWIW, I’m seeing projections based on the counts that still have them at 34, but I guess we’ll see.
I agree that a resurrection of the cordon sanitaire is probably a positive and I agree that Macron was extremely clumsy, like much of the EU’s centre and demochristian right, in sliding towards far right positions they just can’t defend any better than the actual fascists. But still, from an international perspective France is now firmly in the club of Central European countries with a major fascist problem in a way it wasn’t yesterday, even if the outcome was already understood to be going this way.
The vote finished in the night and we got the official results now. Paris voted massively NFP and Renaissance, so Far Right is now at 29.3% while NFP is just behind them at 28.0%. Honestly? Given the polls we had, RN is lower than anyone could have hoped.
Source: https://www.resultats-elections.interieur.gouv.fr/legislatives2024/ensemble_geographique/index.html
I’m kind of surprised this image of France having a Far Right issue is only becoming a thing now though. These results are close (if not better for non far right voters) than the last 2022 Presidentals, and Far Right already had a huge score in 2017.
Thanks for the link! International press is still running the 33% estimate they probably got from the French morning papers or have taken down the results, so my references hadn’t updated the number.
For the record, the image is not new, there was a lot of international coverage regarding Le Pen’s presidential chances in 2022. But presidentials are presidentials, only one person gets to win. Legislatives raise a lot of questions about parliamentary dynamics, alliances and the potential for the second round to generate another bout of Macron shooting himself in the foot followed by him shooting everybody else in the foot for good measure. That, and there is more paranoia about the tilt right across the EU and internationally about the US.
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I expected better from the French. It’s disheartening watching Fascism take root globally like this. 34% is 34% too much.
These days it seems there’s a rough third of the population in most places that’s stupid and/or bigoted enough to vote for shit like this. Those numbers don’t shock me. But I’m hoping France proves more resistant at the national level to the hyperconservative/neofascist resurgence at the we’re seeing in a distressing number of countries.
how many surprised faces will there be when the right fails to actually do anything substantial for the common voter and just fills up their pockets with gov funds (see: hungary)
If Hungary shows us something, the answer is “not enough”
Fascists? Enriching themselves at the expense of the state? This happens?!
By then it’ll be unfortunately too late, with laws and policies that might take decades to undo.
See Argentina, too.
That’s exactly Macron’s plan. Have the right-wingers fuck up bad so his chances are better at the presidential elections in three years.
He can’t be re-elected, and failed to secure an actual legacy.
Impressive how you write with total conviction, yet are utterly wrong.
Please stop calling Macron’s party centrist. It’s right wing and has always been, regardless of what they pretend.
I think it’s reasonable to call it centrist, despite also being right-wing (ie centre-right)
To me, centrism isn’t just about being somewhere in the middle between the left and right of the political environment, but also about having policies that make small adjustments to the current system, as opposed to fundamental, large scale change
policies that make small adjustments to the current system, as opposed to fundamental, large scale change
The word you’re looking for is “conservative”
(in a political context) favouring free enterprise, private ownership, and socially traditional ideas
Conservative implies right leaning, centrist implies opposed to large scale change
One can be a radical conservative, and one can be centre-left
The word I was looking for is “centrist”
Macron in the middle
lol
National Rally are basically the French equivalent of the British National Party, and they are right wing as fuck.
When they’re leading in the polls, you know that Sarkozy, Hollande and Macron fucked up hard.
I get that the French weren’t a fan of the Nazi invasion, but avoiding it happening again by pre-empting it with their own Nazi rule isn’t the best option.
Yeah, but desperate brown people are fleeing hell holes and day old accounts on social media say they will rape me and eat my kids.
God damn people are stupid.
Conservatives need to stop projecting their kinks into real life. It ain’t healthy.
They can’t help themselves, they’re constantly wondering what type of genitals people have
They were such fans, they collaborated with zeal.
Everything old is new again.
Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité
Unless I see a Muslim person on the street, then we’re locking everything down and it’s every man for himself.
“Those people are dangerous, so we need to make a government that kills people.” The world is willing to burn because a few people who are different exist nearby.
🤮🤮🤮🫠🫠
The real news is that Melenchon has finally managed to make it to the second round. And the question now is whether Macron’s voters are as compromised about stopping fascism as they’ve claimed for years to the point that they’ll vote to *horrified gasp* raise their taxes.
Well done France. This is democracy in action. Ignore the people and tell them what they want, they will just find someone that will listen to them.
All the left/centrist parties in the world just need to look at Denmark and the far right will go away within one election cycle.
Yes, but the moment you tighten immigration and say stuff like we can’t help everyone, the radical left immediately brands you a nazi, same as the constant harping about centrists.
In the end there are problems with migrants and these need to be adressed. Povery Beiing an important one, but culture and language as well.
At the same time you also need to not forget the smaller towns. Once bus service stops and the last local grocery store closes, it’s dead. So then what. People left there feel forgotten, because they are. The free market deemed them unprofitable and left them behind.
Exactly. That’s what’s happened in Denmark. The facts speak for themselves.
This website is so extremist even the you talking about why this is happening is being down voted. This website doesn’t not like anything that exists outside of their bubble.
You know just because you claim that something is true it doesn’t automatically mean that what you say is actually true and the only thing I see in Denmark is a country where the social democrats talk and make policy like the far right. Putting people in camps and stealing their jewelry because they’re not desirable for society, I hope you don’t mind me making the comparison to the Nazis.
Can’t wait for World War 4 because some white nazi woman wins an election. It will shut up the feminists who believe women are better than men. Women are just as human and just as shit.
You are such an astonishingly stupid misogynist that you don’t even realize these elections aren’t about a new president and MLP isn’t going to be elected in July. You simply prefer to badmouth feminists because no sane woman is attracted in you instead of engaging your brain for even a second.
