So many people talk about doing this but few actually do.

I’ve done something similar involving working holidays. I’m tired now and Covid fucked up my plans and my career is going to be hell to get back into, but I want to change anyway. Just hope I got enough experience and education and brains to climb up the ladder, I just don’t know where yet.

I’m glad I did it but it isn’t for most.

Family still means something because the definition is limited.

Community is dead and the reason for that is community is exclusive, by necessity it has to have people in the community and people outside the community.

People can’t stand not being involved so they force they way in shit all over the floor ruin it and then suddenly the community is dead.

Yes. I believe that’s true but I’ve never done it myself.

Yea I know, I said that.

People still call them fuse boxes though.

Yea I know, I’ve wired a plug.

Never seen a fuse in a socket though. That comment is completely wrong and yet it’s the most up voted reply.

Never seen a house without a fuse box either.

Why are people saying this?

I’ve lived in multiple UK houses and never once seen a socket with a fuse. Are you saying this was change way way back in the day?

All houses have fuse boxes (which then got upgraded to circuit breakers). Not one fuses in sockets. Would be a fucking nightmare to take the socket off and change a fuse.

How the fuck they get anything done then?

There no point holding onto hair when it’s really gone. It looks worse than shaving it. Unless you want to pay for hair transplant use need min and fin.

People with hair transplants need to go on finesteride anyway.

I think if you are beginning to bald. Might as well go on finesteride and minoxidil.

They are both proven to work (though not for everyone).

Seeing regular masculinity as toxic. Just out right judging people for not being more feminine and doing normal guy stuff.

Like bunch of guys joking around having fun. "Oh that’s toxic masculinity.

He also uses the fact that he is a mod to bully people. He just holds it over the conversation at times to force it to go the way he wants.

I won’t be replying anymore

Oh great because you only seem capable of having your own conversation instead of talking about the original conversation.

Jesus Christ give me strength.

This is going to go nowhere. Look do you accept certain individuals in the world are mistreated? That we should ideally address every issue on an individual basis and try to fix the issue that is affected that person? Now if it is a man should we ignore them?

What you are saying is someone has it worse so I don’t want to hear it. You don’t get to complain, you don’t get help, you don’t get attention, you’re going to get ignored just because you are a man.

Some people have it worse than others yes. Some men have been on the receiving end of sexism more than some women. But if you are going to say women have more issues than men so men don’t get anything then that’s a horrible, sexist thing to say. Well who has it worst? Some kid starving in Sudan. Oh I don’t want to hear about how you had to get coffee, there are kids starving in Sudan we can only address one issue at a time and you come from a developed country with excess food. No. Be quiet until we fix the Sudan issue I don’t want to hear it.

Your kidney analogy is a terrible one. A better one would be that when deciding if Jim or John should get a kidney they looked back through the records and found in 1965 some guy called Jim got a kidney and some guy called John died. So now it’s Johns turn to get a kidney. That’s how sexism works, you group people and mistreat individuals rather than treating people as individuals.

You seem to be trying to make out that I’m saying only men have issues and no one else does. I’m not saying that I’m saying men ALSO have issues as well as other people, sometimes they are the same, sometimes they are different and they are humans too and they deserve attention, love and affection just like anyone else. But there are people like you in the world that don’t want to accept men have issues because you only want non-male issues addressing.

The most sexism I have seen in the workforce has been on hiring policies. That before the job has even been posted people are looking for women. You might have some 21 year old guy straight out of university, he could have been in the feminists society for all we know, he and the 10 other guys won’t even have a chance at the job because 1 woman has applied and they job is reserved for her based on sex alone. That’s sexism and all sexism is bad. Young men are really struggling now in a way people don’t want to address. Especially working class uneducated men. But all, all, the attention is on women.

I think this is a good example of some of the issues men face.

"It comes off as lack of self reflection and disingenuous where men have allowed women to suffer for years (decades? centuries?), but as soon as men are experiencing it too, its a crisis now!

Or equally men are responsible for all the bad things in the world

Certainly not all, but certainly lots and lots of bad things. Only 13 of the 193 UN member nations have *ever* had a woman leader of the nation. [source](https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/03/28/women-leaders-around-the-world/) I don’t see how anyone can say women are to blame for that, nor the policies those world leaders put into place.

because simply they are men and men are responsible. Well, if men are in charge, then it would follow that they’re responsible for the outcomes, yes?

I’m willing to give a woman a chance to lead. She certainly can’t be any worse that some of the worst men we’ve had as leaders."

I think this is a good example of some of the issues men face. That their issues do not matter because others have it worse. And like you show it is always lost in the general grouping of things. “I do not care how badly you as an individual has been treated because the group you are part of hasn’t been as hard done by as another group. Therefore because you are part of that group your issues matter less”. There always seems to be thus weird idea present that because say women have had it worse in the past that things need to be evened out by men having it worse now. Bad things have happened in the past yes, that goes without saying. But short of a time machine it won’t ever be fixed, but discrimination or issues in the present of any kind should be fixed. It shouldn’t be some weighing up of past offences of a group before an decision on an individual, that has in no way contributed to past offences happens. That’s what discrimination is.

A lot of leaders has been upper class white men yes. But they exploited working class white men as much as anyone. So because an upper class white man did something in the past some working class white man must pay for it now? Class is way more important than gender in a lot of things. How am I, a man that has never been in a position of power anymore responsible for geopolitics than a women that hasn’t been in power? Taring me for being a man for crimes of other men isn’t right.

But again you are passing the responsibility and making excuses. No one is denying men have done bad things. But accepting men have also being on the receiving end of bad things just for being men, or just in general, is important. This is the most kind of the misandry I see. Women doing something and then saying that because white men are in charge they are without fault? The guys in power don’t have that much power, that don’t stop individuals mistreating other individuals.

Not the first one.

I wasn’t thinking the second but that would be an example. I would say conversations with men over this topic is a lot easier than you would expect. There is support there. Bringing up with women who want a men to not cry or be sensitive can be difficult.

The highest frequency I see of it is when issues are discarded when it is an issue with men. Be it homelessness, suicide, job inequality, domestic violence or any other issue. But not for women. It seems men are worthless in a lot of people’s eyes because they aren’t women.

Or equally men are responsible for all the bad things in the world because simply they are men and men are responsible. For example a common issue is when men say they open up to a woman and that women used that to attack them. Then someone might say this is the patriarchy and toxic masculinity in action and men need to sort it out. Even though the man has done absolutely nothing wrong only the woman. Deflecting any responsibly from women doing something they shouldn’t have.

The inequality of responses from those being harmed, or undervalued and those responsible for the negativity seems at times strongly dependant on if it is a man or a women.

At least that is what I have seen mostly. But I’m more curious about others.

I agree. It’s also probably person to person thing.

I’ve been told it’s better to take ibuprofen with food as you can get indigestion. But I don’t so I don’t need to. Some people need to. Some people get indigestion so bad they can’t take ibuprofen at all even with food.

Also I went to the doctors and he said “just take some ibuprofen that will help” and I said “oh I’m asthmatic I’m not meant to take that. But I have taken it before and I didn’t realise”

And he said “oh its fine then. Some asthmatics might get any issue with it. That’s why it’s recommend not to take it. BUT seeing as you have and didn’t have any issues, then you are fine to take it.”

There is a huge theoretical improvement in medicine if it can be given individually rather than by demographic.

Honestly in this age of over cautious health and safety it’s complete madness easily quantifiable permanent damaging volume is allowed.

Like even a warning and free earplugs are not given. Nothing.

“Here you go children. You pay we will give you a life long disability.”

How?

One company doesn’t sell a product consumers want to buy so their sales go down.

One company does sell a product consumers want to buy so their sales go up.

How’s that’s not capitalism?

Far too expensive, far too inflexible, far too long to build.

They have no upsides on any metric.

Toyota who got famous for being agile and lean and making just in time manufacturing and continuously improving every aspect of the business.

They then basically run a real world experiment and start fucking around with electric (well hybrid) cars. The results of which are positive, they sell very well, get a lot of publicity and good reviews.

And what do they do. Ignore their entire philosophy, all their data, everything the company is built and and decide “the way we have always done it is best”.

Ohno Taiichi must be rolling in his grave.

Toyota fucked themselves.

But if capitalism shows us anything its that if the big companies don’t adapt and change quickly some small start up is going to blow them out of the water and make them cease to exist.