Well, you’re right they do sell newspapers. Their first issue was about rehabilitating Lenin, so I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss them as Trotskyists.

I know what the outcomes look like when the “left” represses the right and everybody else, including themselves. And your failure to see how undesirable those outcomes may be to leftists around the world is precisely the beef we have against Lemmygrad, Nazbear and tankies in general. You do not represent us, and we’ll never be allies. Even worse, you guys actively sabotage leftism by keeping red-scare era scarecrows alive. I’m glad you’re such an insignificant minority that we can contain, to be quite frank. The tankie problem used to be way worse on Lemmy less than a year ago.

I know my local revolutionnary/communist party, despite being leninist, is fiercely anti-Stalin, for instance. The fixation on defending totalitarianism is frankly bizarre.

By using the kind of the repression they used on the public, they proved they were no better than the capitalists they despise so much.

Someone that actually cares about left-wing politics cares a lot more about the outcomes than which faction comes ahead. Politics aren’t a game of Risk. Actions have consequences, and humanity as a whole loses when innocents get killed by brainwashed idiots.

If stalinist Russia is what utopia is supposed to be, I’m not interested, thank you.

That’s precisely the extent of my criticism. Understanding stalinism instead of just demonizing it is a good thing, if only to avoid repeating the same mistakes. But the end doesn’t justify the means. Apologism is not OK.

It’s OK to take a stance against power abuses, and vital to denounce them if you consider yourself a leftist.

The problem is the violence of the totalitarian regimes you defend harms innocents too, which is why serious communists shouldn’t advocate for that kind of power abuse any more than they should advocate for Western imperialism. It’s not that hard.

Yeah I get to do that, because that’s what happened factually, sorry. No amount of whataboutism will change that. I don’t care about Western imperialists, fuck them too.

And you guys won’t reach any mainstream audience to spread your bile. Sorry!

You guys can’t help yourselves. Anyone interested can read the Nazbear slip-ups in this thread. You don’t even to do any hardcore research.

It is, because they tried federating and they were denied access.

No, because substituting one imperialism with another one you like more means you never understood any leftist theory to begin with.

Oh, they do agree with the imagery. Not so much with the actual left-wing values. Which is why I used the word “cosplay”.

Leftism isn’t just aesthetics, folks. It’s not enough to just hate american imperialism.

I can understand how having you own space is enjoyable, but you won’t convince me that you don’t care that your influence has been contained. Otherwise you wouldn’t feel the need to defend your instance so hard here, going as far as brigading other communities en masse?

You want anyone to believe you don’t care about being deplatformed? Stop acting like you actually care.

Yeah, and they’re mad that the sane fediverse didn’t let them spread. That was the point. Your message is not a gotcha 😁

You guys are somewhat still mad that the censorship of defederation has cut you off from an influx of newcomers to influence. And your tears are absolutely delicious.

Definitely not a neolib, but I’m glad we agree about the similarities of Nazbear with 4chan

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You guys don’t even hide it anymore. You’re openly advocating for brutal police regimes. The jokes write themselves. Convenient.

As it’s always been, they cope with the horrible events with satirical, sarcastic humor. And, in the middle of that will be a well-reasoned, nuanced, and quite serious post.

It’s just tankie 4chan

These pathetic foxes are pissed they’ve been neutralized by defederation. They’re mad that the contagion has been contained. That real lefties, even communists don’t take them seriously.

These guys aren’t fooling anyone. The online left doesn’t need their rotten discourse, and they don’t belong there.

It’s just 4chan cosplaying communism. Truly despicable.

Don’t be gaslit, Russian warcrimes enjoyers are running wild on Nazbear.

What you saw is what I saw too, and that’s just disgusting. Don’t be fooled.

I’ve seen them pulling the debatebro tactics they complain about, and feigning ignorance when you talk about their favorite dictators.

Those people aren’t acting in good faith, and are trying to manipulate you. They’re pissed that they’re being treated like pariahs and are defederated from everything, because their influence has shrunk significantly and they’ve essentially been defanged (they’re getting banned left and right, even by real lefties).

She’s a top NSA spy. Learnt the ropes while shooting the Barbie movie, which was actually a front for a vast police operation to capture the hobbits. Apparently, they live in Barbieland.