It’s a two-edged sword for sure.

The good:

• Lots of room for creativity, innovation, and change. But as others mentioned, this depends on the company culture.

• Less red tape because of the shorter line up the organization.

• Faster promotion track if the company grows and you’ve already established yourself. You can also get a huge payout if the company is acquired in the future.

The bad:

• Possibly not as organized vs a company with an established support group (admin, payroll, HR, etc.).

• People having to perform multiple roles due to having fewer personnel.

• As a counter to the 2nd bullet in the pro section, having to deal directly with top management means you’re more exposed to politics.

• Possibly lower pay. But you said they’ve been around for 2 decades so maybe they’re paying well, and I’m sure you’ve considered the pay already.

pros - you can make a big impact and less strict processes.

cons - you cant just pass the buck and hide, you couldnt say ‘thats not in my job description’ just he ready to wear random hats when needed.

As you’ve already touched on, company culture is everything at small companies. If you fit in well, you’ll love it. If you don’t, you’ll hate it. I would ask to talk to other people in the company besides the CEO and talk to them about what working there is like and what kind of person would fit in well. If the CEO (I’m assuming that is who you are interviewing with) balks at the Idea, that right there tells you something.

Clique culture in small companies is pretty common. It might not be boys club but there’s no middle man to protect Devs from those in charge so there’s always going to be pressure to hang out if everyone is or to work overtime. You have to work in that clique culture but you don’t have to always say yes as long as you are friendly about it. The phrase “being firm” has never sat right with me for these as it’s the antithesis of friendliness you can be loose and say no and if it’s brought up again stay loose and continue to say no. You don’t need an excuse but a loose excuse is works well.

Security is obviously always scary but the tech landscape does not really have that anyway. Realistically if the only worry is it’s a small company and everything else is good, take it. If you find that you don’t fit into the small team flow, then you can continue looking in the future.

Pros: You get hands on with all sorts of tech and get to do everything. You’ll have more flexibility in how you solve things.

Cons: You get hands on with all sorts of tech and get to do everything. You’ll have more flexibility in how you solve things.

It’s fun being at a small software company but it can be exhausting.

I’m a software dev whose first job out of college was at a tiny company, 10-15 people.

Pros: I learned a lot. Each project had different technologies involved. I def didn’t get bored! Basically no red tape. I reported to the IT director, and he reported to the owner. Nothing could really get lost in bureaucracy there.

Cons: Payscale was weak, but eh, it was my first job out of college. No room for advancement. What even is a promotion when the whole company is only a dozen people? Limited mentoring. While I had a lot of guidance from my boss there, especially early on, now years later I’m looking back, wishing I’d gotten a more varied perspective. You can only learn so much from one person’s perspective.

I’m in this exact situation now and have been for many years, while previously in a gigantic company…

Pros:

You (hopefully) tend to have significantly more influence on the tech stack and software direction. 

You're (hopefully) treated like a real person and not a cog in the corporate machine.

You (hopefully) get to learn and do a larger variety of things.

Cons:

Pay can be lower, and getting raises can be harder when you're talking directly to the CEO/Owner and it is quite literally coming out of his or her pocket.

Taking leave tends to be harder when there is so few people to pick up the slack.

Ok, I’ll give my experience. I was hired as basically a paid intern. I was in high school, I “knew” computers like a nerdy teenager knows computers… Not real knowledge of their workings but I played with some programming(I got hello world to work using perl) , I could install linux(in the early 2000s, I bought copy of Debian Linux on 7 cds). I was basically told I would be an assistant to the other computer technician.

A week after I got hired, he got fired. For the next several months people got hired and fired after a 2-3 weeks. The company was 3 people, myself, the owner, his wife did the accounting. I didn’t know what I was doing, googling what I could to figure stuff out(i now know that’s normal but also now know how to Google correctly). I leaned on the owner to figure out things. I don’t know if your job is in computers but these are things I learned later were absolutely idiotic.

1. If a computer came in with a suspected virus, standard protocol was no research or investigation… Format and reinstall.

2. We had corporate clients (main client was a credit union), we gave the windows CD and license code to each teller with no record of what they were. He sold the license at the price he bought then for from staples.

3. All servers had local admin accounts. All local admin accounts had similar passwords. I was the only person who knew what those passwords were.

4. My boss thought time spent documenting was time wasted.

Anyways I stayed there for 4 years. It was not perfect and I learned so much wrong stuff. It was a decent job, my boss had really weird rules(why so many people got fired), and my time would of been spent better learning correct information.

That said I ended up causing the company to go bankrupt and the owner and his wife are now Christian consulers…

Very small is 3 people. It’s a small company.

My experience working in a dev company exactly that size -

Pros

Less dead wood (people not carrying their own weight).

Everyone knows everyone well, it’s a tight team

Think it, do it - quick to develop and respond

Less pressure

Feels a bit like a family

More chilled than corporate esp. working from home

More support of networking and linking up with industry peers

Higher degree of trust and support

Way more latitude to do what you want to do

Easy to influence senior leadership

Can offer things like equity etc

If you’re a high performer you will be noticed

Way less red tape

A lot more trust

Company can prosper if everyone works hard

Cons

Company favourites

Can be quite political, although far less so than some large organisations I’ve worked for

Less cover if you’re on leave or similar

Harder to get some things done if money is needed (lower budgets and thinner reserves)

Lower remuneration, fewer levers to pull to get a salary increase

More drama with paychecks etc

Fewer higher skilled people to learn from

Culture can go sideways quickly

Nowhere near the same level of support and benefits provided by the big companies

Tend not to attract the best and brightest talent

Comoany more impacted by economic conditions

It also greatly depends on you and your preferred style. Some people just outright don’t like working for big businesses and prefer smaller gigs.

Whether the culture is good or bad is not strongly indicated by the size. You’ll get a good feel by meeting them. Prepare some questions on turnover and overtime use. You want both low.

You will have to do work that in a bigger company would be specialist work. Some possible examples: Maintain infrastructure, drag network cables, purchase your computer, negotiate with service providers, software architecture, UX, product strategy, frontend, backend, integrations, customer support, QA, fix the printer, argue with the landlord about ventilation, etc. All this could be heaven or hell based on your personality. :)

I worked in one for 6 years. The best thing was getting close to my coworkers, I’m still in contact with some of them to this day. The worst thing was the compensation. Can’t get more money when there’s none to go around.

Pros: there shouldn’t be a lot of red tape or layers of middle management to deal with. If you have an idea, you know exactly who you have to convince to get them to buy in. Your contributions will have a visible impact right away. If you get along well with the team it may seem like too much fun to really be work.

Cons: resources will likely be scarce. The “IT Department” might just be Ed, one of the greybeard Linux guys, who maintains the servers in his spare time. (or worse yet, Ed might have just retired, and they think you’re the new Ed). There are only a handful of people “in charge” and if you don’t get along with them you may not be able to get much done.

I worked in both small and big companies.

That “micromanaging CEO” can also happen in big companies as your skip-manager doing that. So, being in a big company isn’t a safe bet against it.

I would say there are more pros than cons in working for a small company. Especially if you’re at the beginning of your career.

What you should make absolutely clear is that what you’ll be working on i.e. products & technologies.

Pros:

• You may learn a lot of things. Not only on the tech side but also about how to deal with people, how a project is managed, how business is translated into tech.
• It’s easier to be seen and heard. You see a problem with a business initiative, you can convince the managers and change it to avoid a certain disaster. Your achievements will be recognized more.
• Less bureaucracy. Big companies move very slowly. Also with your career development. You will have to jump through many many loops to just get a pay raise as much as the inflation. In small companies salary adjustments and promotions are much faster.
• You may rise up quite fast. With the allure of big companies stealing talent from small companies there may be many opportunities to grow into different roles in the company.
• Small companies need to retain their employees more than the big companies. It’s an expensive and time consuming process to hire. So a smart small company will try their best to retain its employees. If the financials of that company are good it means you will have better job security.
• Less playing politics. In big companies there are a lot of times you have to play politics against other teams to get something done. That’s tedious and time consuming. You may see the work you spent so much time on to be “postponed” to another quarter just because some other team “wasn’t ready yet”.
• In big companies there are a LOT of legacy, badly written, big riddled, failing code present. Most likely you will have to maintain code like that alongside new code. In small companies it’s less likely to encounter very bad legacy stuff.

Cons:

• If there’s a micromanaging CEO (especially without tech experience) this may drive you crazy. The same applies for an incompetent direct manager.
• It may be unbearable if you don’t “vibe” with the people. Especially if they are rude or insulting. In big companies how people shall interact with each other is defined and enforced. May not be the case in a small company.
• The salary may be lower than what you’ll get in a big company. But if you’re early in your career that shouldn’t be the most important point.
• After 2 - 3 years most likely you’ll learn everything in the company and it won’t feel challenging. Then you’ll need to change jobs as the things you can learn at a small company are limited to what they are using anyway.
• There will be a lot of focus shifts and last minute changes. Things will (almost) never go according to the plan. What you have been working on may be shelved due to changes in business requirements.
• Related to the previous point you may need to work overtime.

I actually started at my current company when there were only 12 employees total. Now we’re 100+ employees. I witnessed the shift from a small company to medium sized.

When I started, the CEO was very present in day to day operations in the company. We hold a weekly meeting and everyone gets to share their updates and the CEO is involved in the day-to-day operations in the projects.

I lucked out having an excellent CEO so my experience is great when we’re at the small company stage. However since we’ve scaled up to be more than 100 employees there’s already middle management and what we did needs to be filtered thru the middle management.

Unfortunately the middle management layer is not as great as the CEO. So I’ve been contemplating moving to another company but the pay is good and I work remotely, but I’ve been looking around to see if there’s better options.

the biggest downside imo is it can be hard to leave because you’ll feel more connected to everyone involved. but they won’t necessarily be able to pay you much more than you start at even if you do stay. and you’ll be spending that time on more or less the same tech stack which can limit your growth and make it harder when finding a new job later.

id say it’s fine especially as an early job but strongly consider a new job after 2-4 years