Do you consider ghosting people a reasonable way to deal with today’s overwhelming and constant information and notification overload? Or do you find it offensive and unfriendly?

Would you equate it to a person ignoring you irl or is ignoring a text different?

For this post let’s assume the people involved are or were in the past friends, and ghosting is leaving someone on “read” for more than 2 days.

  • Kissaki@feddit.org
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    9 days ago

    Two days is not ghosting if they’re busy or struggling.

    Personality and relationship/closeness matters, as well as expectations.

    Ghosting can be disappointing and can be hurtful.

  • ohlaph@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    Depends. Someone toxic that doesn’t respect boundaries? Absolutely. A good friend for no reason? No.

    • El Barto@lemmy.world
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      9 days ago

      I don’t take ghosting from women too personally. It still stings, but I understand. I’ve heard horror stories of men who will think of any response, even if it’s “fuck off, leave me alone!” as a chance. So ghosting is the way to go in these circumstances.

      The woman doesn’t know if I’m one of those men. So again, if I’m ghosted, I try to shrug it off and move on.

      A friend, though? They’d better tell me they were in a coma or something. Otherwise they can fuck right off.

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        What’s crazy is that, personally, I seem to know just as many “Can’t this guy take a hint” women as I know “I’m not good enough for him so I should block him” type women.

        I legitimately know two women who had that concern, blocked the guy on everything, and he either made an alt or found an obscure social to DM them on.

        Both are happily married and medicated for their anxiety now.

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          I legitimately know two women who had that concern, blocked the guy on everything, and he either made an alt or found an obscure social to DM them on.

          Holy hell, what a nightmare. This happened to me once with a woman. She doing it to me, kind of ironic. And I felt mildly annoyed instead of horrified, which I’m aware is male privilege.

  • ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com
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    10 days ago

    I used to talk to this girl on some random app in the early days of social media. We became good friends and would facetime every other day and got to know each other pretty well. This went on for probably about 2 years. She even began to have feelings for me.

    At some point, I decided to completely ghost her. The truth is I got this idea in my head that talking to girls on the internet was sad and desperate. But I didn’t want to tell her the truth.

    She tried calling me and texting me but I never replied. Even about 6 months later she tried calling me out of the blue, but again I ignored the call.

    To this day she still doesn’t know why I just disappeared on her. It was a horrible thing to do and I’m not proud of it. Ghosting is almost always cruel unless you have a very good reason for it.

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    10 days ago

    For this post let’s assume the people involved are or were in the past friends, and ghosting is leaving someone on “read” for more than 2 days.

    This doesn’t match how I’m used to seeing ghosting defined.

    That behavior might be unfriendly, but there are a ton of innocuous reasons people do it. People are busy and not every message merits a prompt reply. If someone sends me something that requires more time or attention than I have at that moment like a video or news article, I’m likely to make a mental note to look at it later. I might actually remember, and then remember to send a reply about it. I might not.

    It’s maybe a little rude not to respond to something more important or time-sensitive, but I can always ask again or use something more synchronous like a voice call. People are busy, life happens, tech can be unreliable. It’s best not to assume intentional disrespect.


    My understanding of the term “ghosting” is permanent or long-term cessation of communication over all channels without explanation. That should be reserved for situations where someone is a physical danger or behaved in a manner so egregious they almost certainly know what they did.

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      9 days ago

      Texts are literally made for busy people. I don’t understand how you can call later but not have time later to check their text. Calls demand you at the very moment but texts allow you to respond whenever you are free.

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        Uh sure. Texts allow you to respond whenever you are free. But if you don’t want to, you don’t have to. My free time is my own for me to use in any way I please. And if I don’t want to reply to anyone in particular during my free time, no one should judge me for that. I’ll reply to you when I want to. That’s why it’s asynchronous communication. Need something more immediate? Call. Visit. Or try texting again (but don’t send a barrage of texts.)

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      Naaaah, if you have five people in a year texting you over and over demanding your attention, then getting even more texts when you reply with “yo don’t text me again,” you’ll learn to ghost very quickly.

      I’m not saying that’s everyone’s experience. But understand that not everyone does it for the pleasure of dehumanizing.

  • Pechente@feddit.org
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    10 days ago

    with today’s overwhelming and constant information and notification overload

    If that’s the reason, I think there’s an issue with managing notifications. Limit them to important people and there won’t be much more mental clutter than in the past.

    Ghosting people for other reasons if completely fine though and is not the same at all as ignoring them in real life.

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    I got to be good friends with someone I met at work and we gamed online when we could. We’d be playing a game, and he would always get so angry, raging at the game into the mic (I’m the only one listening, mind you), actually getting angry at a video game. I would find it amusing at first, but it became exhausting after a while, so I would find other games to play or just go invisible on Steam. He’d call me every so often, asking what’s up or if I was playing that night, but I’d find other things to do or say I wasn’t playing much anymore. I really hate lying to people.

    It wasn’t until years later he started getting assault weapons, talking conservatively, and becoming toxic in general. I decided to ghost him because I felt I couldn’t trust him anymore. It’s really too bad, as he was a nice guy at first, but something changed in him and it gave me an icky feeling. I suppose it’s for the better, as I have no idea how he would have handled my transition.

  • blarghly@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    ghosting is leaving someone on “read” for more than 2 days.

    This is totally normal behavior. People are busy. Sometimes they read your message and say to themselves “I see this now, but I’m feeling stressed and busy right now - I’ll reply later when I can write a good response.” But then later happens, and it turns out they are tired and forgetful.

    Especially if you are just trying to have a casual conversation - people will treat these messages as lower priority and also as requiring more emotional energy, since the conversation isn’t urgent but they don’t want to write dismissive one word responses.

    I recommend:

    1. Send texts primarily to exchange information or make arrangements to meet.
    2. If you want to have a conversation, either meet in person or have a phone call.
    3. If a person has failed to respond to a text, then wait until the next time you have some reason to contact them - which could be as simple as “I want to talk to them”. At which point, text them the info you need to give to them and/or pitch a time to meet up or have a phone call. If they don’t respond to this, I tend to follow up with a snarky “HellooOOOoooo”. And then if they don’t respond to that, a sincere message asking if they are okay. If they still don’t respond to that, depending on the friendship, I may either write them off, or ask mutual friends what is going on.
  • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip
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    Whatever, people are busy. Texting means I may read it, I may not. If I do I may respond, I may not.

    Certainly is not instant communication.

    Pretty much of the opinion that out of sight is out of mind. You are here, you have my full attention, you are elsewhere… surely you have better things to do than text me.

  • DaniNatrix@leminal.space
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    I’ve always associated the term with the online dating arena. However, I’ve lost touch with people after moving cities, or having various life changes occur (sobriety etc.), is that ghosting? I’ve had to go no contact with a few ex partners and friends for mental health and safety purposes, is that ghosting? I have adhd inattentive and occasionally respond in my head to a text message but unintentionally fail to respond in actuality, is that ghosting?

    The definition seems to depend on the recipient to a large degree. A lot of folks here are saying “you have to communicate or it’s cruel/cowardly/sociopathic”(yikes to that last one btw). Well, I recently had to end a friendship and I communicated to them, as kindly and as clearly as I could, that things had run their course. I did not ignore them or suddenly cut them off, I communicated. They didn’t like what I had to say, and went a little bonkers, so I blocked them and now their story is that I ghosted them. Idk, it seems to be a slippery term in my experience.

    I’ve never felt offended by someone losing touch with me or by getting busy with life etc. Life happens, things and people change, it seems natural to me that a lot of relationships have expiration dates to various degrees. The only times I’ve had people aburptly end communication with me was when I’d said or done something egregious and I don’t fault them for it. That only happened back in my drinking days, I’ve not had it happen since getting sober ten years ago. In my experience, which is by no means universal, if someone abruptly cuts you off, it may be time to take a step back and examine your behavior and/or expectations. And if it turns out they were just a shit person, then let them ghost, good riddance.

  • peoplebeproblems@midwest.social
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    10 days ago

    It’s immature. Just say you’re taking a break from messaging right now.

    Double goes for dating. If you get ghosted by someone, probably a good thing, because they aren’t relationship material yet.

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    it’s being offended for the sake of being offended.

    i notice the people who complain about ghosting in online dating apps… almost always do it to me.

    we had ‘ghosting’ in the 90s and 2000s too. we just didn’t use that term for it. you’d go out with someone and they’d ignore your calls or avoid you in school. the message was clear.

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      We don’t live in the 90s anymore. It was wrong to do then and it is even more wrong to do it now, since we actually know what it is and even have a word for it now.

      Just find some decency to let the other person know you’re not interested anymore. It’s really one simple text.

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        Have enough decency to accept someone ghosting you means they don’t want to interact with you anymore and that they do not own you an explanation as to why. You’re not that special.

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        Just find some decency…

        There is a case for ghosting. Some people sinply will refuse to stop interacting with you unless you forcibly cut it off by ignoring them. This is more or less what happened with my most recent ex

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          You get it.

          I always feel like the anti-ghosting people just… have no active social lives. Therefore they can’t comprehend with dealing with weirdos who require you to ghost/ignore them because they simple do not understand social cues and/or can’t accept direct rejection. They always argue from social ideals where everyone is perfect and wonderful and there are no bad actors or ill-intentioned folks out there.

          I notice people with active social lives don’t really see anything wrong with ghosting… because it’s just part of life and when you have an active social life strangers come and go into your life all the time and you don’t think much about it. Especially as you get older and you don’t dwell on peer acceptance as much as you do in your teens and 20s.

          And it’s always been part of life. You ignore people you don’t like. You respond and engage people you like. But for some reason people can’t simple get it through their heads… if the person liked them they would not be ghosting them. Ghosting isn’t the issue… it’s their self-esteem being offended that they tolerate.

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    Eh. I get it. You don’t owe anyone an explanation. Unless you’ve been dating for like 8 months or something