I came across a post requesting to remove Nutomic from the Lemmy devs due to a comment he made here. In it, he suggests that the ruling class promotes both LGBTQ+ rights and transphobia as a means to create division among the working class. I’m curious to hear your thoughts on this perspective. Do you agree or disagree with his viewpoint? What other topics do you believe are used to divide the working class? Let’s discuss!

  • PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social
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    18 days ago

    Personally, I think all of this “Person X holds an officially wrong viewpoint on this one singular issue, so let’s attack them and create as much division as possible and take energy away from defending ourselves against people who hold objectively wrong and dangerous viewpoints on 100% of the issues and are actively trying to destroy us” thing is silly. But that is me.

    The Lemmy devs are a little bit unusual in that I have problems with their overall politics (even if we actually agree on more than we disagree, probably), not just a one issue. But even in that case, where it’s a sizeable difference of opinion (instead of WE CAUGHT THEM BEING BAD ON THIS ONE ISSUE FUCK EM FUCK EM FUCK EM), I don’t think should be a reason to “divide” from them. People are allowed to hold viewpoints, even allowed to contribute while holding those viewpoints, even if I think they are wrong.

    • sbv@sh.itjust.works
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      18 days ago

      I feel like this is the best approach. An ally is an ally. If they have weird, socially unacceptable, or poorly thought out ideas, but they

      1. aren’t acting on them,
      2. don’t promote them,
      3. still act in good faith on issues we have in common,

      then they’re fine for the stuff we care about. The right has built a big tent because they understand this. We’re only holding ourselves back by subjecting each other to purity tests.

      As always, there are limits, but generally we need to build more coalitions.

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      18 days ago

      I don’t want to exile them per se but I do have a huge problem with the way they manage their instance, and I think a boycott of that instance has become the only reasonable way to respond to their abuses of power.

      If they ever stop being thought police then we can reconnect. It’s not their politics or views that are the problem, it’s their behavior. Even though, yes, I also think their politics are extremely toxic.