SeahorseTreble@lemmy.world to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world · 11 months agoJustifying one thing because it's a necessary component of another unnecessary thing... what logical fallacy is that?message-squaremessage-square114fedilinkarrow-up138arrow-down14
arrow-up134arrow-down1message-squareJustifying one thing because it's a necessary component of another unnecessary thing... what logical fallacy is that?SeahorseTreble@lemmy.world to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world · 11 months agomessage-square114fedilink
minus-squareidiomaddict@feddit.delinkfedilinkarrow-up3·11 months agoMilk is actually designed! It’s super cool
minus-squarecommie@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1arrow-down1·11 months agodesign implies a designer.
minus-squarecommie@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1arrow-down1·11 months agodesign takes volition.
minus-squareidiomaddict@feddit.delinkfedilinkarrow-up2·11 months agoThat’s debatable, I feel like spiders design their webs.
minus-squarecommie@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1arrow-down1·11 months agodo they understand they might try other patterns, and actively choose the one they use?
minus-squareidiomaddict@feddit.delinkfedilinkarrow-up1·11 months agoI don’t know what their cognitive processes are, but it seems unlikely they do. It still sounds perfectly normal to me to say the following: “Spider webs are designed to be safe for the spider, but still trap as much potential prey as possible.” Does that really hit your ear (eye) wrong?
minus-squarecommie@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0arrow-down1·11 months agoyes. i would talk about the evolutionary pressures that have shaped the behavior of the organism. i wouldn’t impart volition to them.
minus-squareidiomaddict@feddit.delinkfedilinkarrow-up1·11 months agoHow would you phrase it? (Honest question)
Milk is actually designed! It’s super cool
design implies a designer.
The mother designs it.
design takes volition.
That’s debatable, I feel like spiders design their webs.
do they understand they might try other patterns, and actively choose the one they use?
I don’t know what their cognitive processes are, but it seems unlikely they do. It still sounds perfectly normal to me to say the following:
“Spider webs are designed to be safe for the spider, but still trap as much potential prey as possible.”
Does that really hit your ear (eye) wrong?
yes. i would talk about the evolutionary pressures that have shaped the behavior of the organism. i wouldn’t impart volition to them.
How would you phrase it? (Honest question)