• Zozano@aussie.zone
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    What’s the deal with black people? They’re not black, and they’re not people.

    -Jerry Seinfeld (probably)

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      Specifically pretend-progressive idiots, for whom progess is great when it’s for their approved groups.

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        Idk, I never would have learned about all the “nuances” within the far right about this issue if not for what happened to Charlie Kirk. It’s not just a pretend-progressive idiot thing. Idiots across the political spectrum have done some very interesting mental gymnastics over this conflict.

        Charlie Kirk made some clearly antisemitic statements during his career, but he also fully supported Israel in this conflict. That is fucking dumb, but also sounds pretty on point considering Trump supports Israel in this conflict, yet refused to admonish his neo nazi supporters who were caught on camera during rallies doing sieg heils before his first term. Or his supports that marched with torches chanting “Jews will not replace us.” Not to mention some dude on Ketamine who hopped on stage during his second inauguration to do a few more sieg heils just to really rub it in.

        Apparently the shooter was a fan of Nick Fuentes. Fuentes hated Charlie Kirk bc he believed he was “too moderate” in his far right views. Ok…

        Nick Fuentes is apparently a Holocaust denier and has called for the death of jews in a holy war. He is very upfront and honest about his antisemitism. I guess this makes Fuentes the kind of guy Jerry Seinfeld apparently prefers as opposed to anyone who might otherwise just simply disagree with him about Palestine.

        Nick Fuentes also called Charlie Kirk a hypocrite for claiming to be a Christian while supporting genocide and murder of hundreds of people on a daily basis.

        I can’t argue with him on that particular statement. However, it also seems just a bit hypocritical to be an antisemite calling for the death of jews, while claiming to worship a jew who sacrificed himself for the sins of the world, and only asked in return that you love your God as the creator of all things and love your neighbor as yourself.

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          I always found weird the position some far right people take that

          1. The Nazis didn’t genocide the Jews
          2. The Jews should be genocided

          Why bother defending 1 if you believe 2?

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            Probably bc if you claim 1 didn’t really happen, it makes it a lot easier to downplay all the steps that had to happen to reach 2. That way when somebody calls you out for starting down that same road again, you can claim they’re trying to make a big deal out of nothing. Once it’s just normal for one group to be treated as if they’re deserving of less than any other human, nothing is really a big deal.

            It’s not like one day there was no genocide, everything was peachy, then suddenly 6 million people were gone. It was a long road that began with normalizing attitudes, then legalizing discrimination, and eventually stripping away an entire group’s perceived humanity along with their rights.

            I know some people claim they believe empathy is a made up new age concept, but it’s actually a tool humans have relied on for millions of years, even before they had a name for it. It’s that part of you that says this feels wrong. That feeling should drive you to act, or at least say something because you can recognize how it would feel if it was happening to me instead of them.

            It’s can be ignored, but it’s what’s supposed to keep this from happening over and over again, unless individuals within a broader dominant group are allowed to normalize the idea that we’re us and that other group is them, so just ignore that feeling. Eventually this normalizes the narrative they are a danger to us. Inevitably it becomes anyone who doesn’t see that we had no other choice but to do what we did, just doesn’t understand or is refusing to acknowledge what they are really like. They’re not like us. Except in all the ways that they are.

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      But the infestation is bad, so widespread. It’s like moving your fridge and there are thousands of roaches under it.

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    Oh look everyone. It’s the “airline food” guy who peaked in the 90s. He has a political opinion.

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      Weirdly, it is actually true that both the KKK and Hamas have bought support in their communities by doing good public works for people. It’s not what they are best known for, but I don’t think shadow organizations survive for long without building some support somehow.

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        their “shadow support” that you can’t figure out is hate. Usually hate from religion. KKK are ALL christians, and use their religion to justify their hate. Hamas are ALL muslims, and use their religion to justify their hate. Israelis are ALL jews, and use their religion to justify their hate.

        Religions openly hate each other. They all have lived under the motto: There can only be one god(s), only one of us can be right. (even though some lie about that, too). They fight religious wars that last for thousands of years, and that’s how they look at you. A pawn so small that you can’t ever fit into a 1/10th of their next thousand year plan.

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          That damn people’s front of Judea! Bunch of mindless zealots. Not like us in the Judea’s Peoples front!

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          We didn’t need two paragraphs to tell us religion has been divisive throughout history. However let’s not oversimplify. The black people terrorized by the KKK were also Christians. Fateh were also Muslims so Hamas didn’t steal their popular support just by being the right religion. Religion is a thing. Not the one and only thing going on.

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    Jerry Seinfeld is a washed up comedian, who cares what his opinions on international geopolitics is???

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    Why do they keep trying to fuzz the terminology?

    Zionists and Jews are not the same thing. They have very little in common.

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      Because they’re dishonest; unfortunately, it’s very effective in shutting down public conversations about what’s happening over there.

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    “By saying ‘Free Palestine,’ you’re not admitting what you really think,” said Seinfeld, who publicly embraces his Jewish heritage and has pushed back against critics of Israel.

    “Just say you don’t like Jews,” he said in reference to the movement, before comparing its supporters to members of the KKK.

    In that spirit, Jerry, maybe you should say what YOU really think. You’re a genocide apologist. Embrace it, instead of putting words in other peoples mouths.

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      Calling critics of a state and a polity racists is some high level bullshit

      Did you criticise the Nazis? Pretty sure that means you hate all modern day Germans /s

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      Nah, just have him say what he thinks about Palestinians and muslims. The rest follows.

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      Because some people are jerks who don’t want better people to enjoy life. Especially out of touch billionaires like Seinfeld.

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      Yeah you can, just remember Larry David and the other writers who actually made it good.

      Edit: and the cast! So many iconic performances.

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    “Just say you hate Jews. Just tie me up and say Jews should die. Spank me and call me an evil little Jew. You know you want to.”

    “Mr Seinfeld, children are starving.”

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    Let’s see, so we have

    Free Palestine, a group that wants to stop the genocide and promote the freedom of Palestinians being murdered through no result of their own actions beyond simply existing.

    The KKK, a group who expressly want to genocide and oppress the freedom of anyone non-white for just simply existing.

    Jerry, you’re telling on yourself here a bit

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      I mean, he spent decades trying to rehabilitate his pal Kramer after he melted down and shouted the n-word at members of his audience.

      Now he’s saying he’s okay with genocide as long as the victims are brown or the wrong religion and they have real estate he’d like.

      Seems like he’s consistent.

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        The Michael Richards incident was a literal one time event, albeit a terrible one. There were zero instances before and zero instances after that suggest Richards is racist. Everything since then Michaels has done suggests he’s exceedingly remorseful over it.

        I am not excusing it in the least, but I don’t think it’s even close to fair to compare him to someone currently supporting the genocide in Palestine.

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                I’m not saying Richards was funny, I’m saying there is a difference on the baddie scale between someone who vocally and current supports genocide and someone who said something racist once twenty years ago.

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                  Nuance, man. Some people just can’t compare qualitatively and can’t understand nuance.

                  Like the stein voters who couldn’t do harm reduction and just threw their votes in the chipper.

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          You don’t really throw a racial slur “just one time”; but when you try to not use it in public, one slip up happens.

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      The KKK claims the Jews are doing a white genocide. Are you a genocide denier if you don’t believe the claims of the KKK?

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        So you’re saying the only people claiming theres a genocide are Hamas?

        Ahh okay, zionazi.

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          No I wasn’t saying you’re like Hamas. I’m saying you’re like the KKK LOL.

          Pay attention!