Jesus christ, what the fuck is this question? This is essentially a thinnly-veiled “Which nationality are the worst people?”, thinnly-veiled racism.
Literally hald of them are like, “Chinese people baaad”, wtf. And also 1/3 of them are “Indians baaad”.
I’m Chinese American which is why that thread made me feel disgusted at reddit.
Like holy shit, I’m not overreacting right? I’m pretty sure c/[email protected] would never allow this troll question.
As an tourist from the USA I am disgusted when I see tourists from the USA.
Nothing spoils a vacation quicker. You teach yourself some of the language, get on with the locals, avoid the tourist traps, and just when you’ve forgotten all your troubles and you’re feeling magnanimous and at your ease, someone nearby goes and ruins it.
They will be existing quite blamelessly among their friends and family, conversing to each other normally, or even more pleasantly than usual. At home you might smile for them and the happiness they had found. Here however, they strike you as unbearably loud and unspeakably crass. You notice how badly their clothes fit, and yet how you wish they’d wear more.
With an orclike air and children in tow they evoke the forced march of Merry and Pippin, and it wounds your feelings to see so many of them unchecked in civilised lands. Their travel agent must be a raven-haired, sallow-faced betrayer, hated in these parts for pouring poisoned words into the ear of the local authorities, and you wish he’d have been made an outlaw before it was too late.
What?
I’m only saying I agree with the chap. Have you been to Paris? It’s lovely in April.
That’s not a racist question, IMO. Like, I’d say British. I guess it depends on the country. And both Britain and my country are predominantly white.
That people came in with racist responses doesn’t mean the question itself is racist.
Yeah British is the standard response where I’m from, specifically groups of “lads” or “lasses” that get super fucked up and make a mess in the city center, sometimes for bachelor(ette) parties.
In the area I work British bachelor(ette) parties are banned from most venues.
I’m still ok to have my stag do there, right?
This is essentially a thinnly-veiled “Which nationality are the worst people?”, thinnly-veiled racism.
American isn’t a race.
The only countries where nationality equals race are ethno states like Israel and even there its not 100% ethnic jews. Everywhere else you will just have a mixed random mess.
It’s a spectrum.
I once saw a woman screaming at the receptionist of an internet cafe cause she was being charged for two time slots, rather than one. She had exceeded her time by like 10 minutes. It was not much money they were fighting over. She just felt entitled to pay less, cause it was not her intention to exceed this threshold.
This was in Thailand and the woman was an American.
A good way around this, imo, is how libraries here in the US (the ones I’ve been to, anyway) do it.
Here, they usually have an hour-long timer where you can do whatever you need/want on the computer. When that hour ends, it kicks you out of the PC back to a login screen, but you can almost always just re-login.
I think some libraries have a limit, but I’m not entirely sure.
Anyone who travels with an entitled attitude sucks.
I’ve met people from all over the world that fit that description.
Assholes aren’t just from one place
There are assholes in every society.
There is also cultural norms that are in conflict. Tourist commonly fail to adapt or even notice when they are violating them. Which tourist are the worst often depends on which culture clashes the most societal norms.
Race is not the same as nationality, however it’s a difficult one because your examples Chinese and Indian are also perceived as ethnicities.
The question is a bit pointless anyway as the place itself will help determine who are the worst groups.
For example in this thread people are talking about British tourists - but in reality that is a subset of generally young and less well off British tourists who go to the Mediterranean - especially Spain but not exclusively - for cheap package holidays and party drunkardly. Meanwhile British tourists who go to other parts of Europe (families, wealthier tourists etc) or the rest of the world do not have that reputation.
Personally I don’t live in a tourist hot-spot now so tourists aren’t a problem. When I lived in London, the answer was generally European tourists but only because there were so many of them compared to other groups and they’d stand around in the middle of busy pavements blocking other people trying to get around. Worst was blocking Tube entrances. But far better than drunkardly vomiting and pissing all over the street I guess.
It is most certainly the lizard people. They are the worst by far.
Always sunning on the best rocks and hissing at anyone who gets too close… So rude.
Damn zuckerberg smh my head
Yeah the worst is when they try to cram in the elevator and someone’s tail pops off. Glad it grows back buddy but my shoes can’t grow new canvas.
Why is there an assumption of nationality = ethnicity?
People act the way they act as a reflection of their environment and society, not race.
Would you say you are behaving the same as a mainlander?
You should know most people use racism and bigotry interchangeably because most people don’t have a good understanding of the difference. You may not like it, but in most contexts the difference is not actually important.
Because when a country’s demonym is also an ethnicity (Such as India --> Indian, China --> Chinese, Japan --> Japanese, South Korea --> Korean), people usually conflate the two.
For example, my nationality is American, but if I visit somewhere in like, idk, Europe, they wouldn’t care about nationality, I would be “that Chinese guy”, basically lumping me in with the sterotypes they come up with.
Not at all, as soon as you opened your mouth you would be “that American guy”. In fact, I probably wouldn’t even need to hear your voice and would spot you from your clothing/accessories first already.
There are many ethnicities in India and China. Your equivalence breaks down, because then both an uyghur, tibetian and han chinese would be the same.
I get it, if we are talking about outsider’s perspective, I for example can’t tell apart a typical chinese from a typical korean or japanese person. Due to the lack of exposure, my brain only registers them as “asian person”. Maybe the language can give a clue, but that’s debateable.
Still, the broader the brushes we paint with, the more erroneous generalization are.
You know what’s interesting about your comment? I’m Mexican-Canadian and in Canada I have always been “the mexican”. When I lived in the UK, I was “the Canadian one”, to distinguish me from the American person with the same name. This was despite the fact that I am Mexican born. So you never know, in Europe, you might still just be that American guy.
Technically, it’s being xenophobic, not racist
I feel like xenophobic would be hating on all (foreign?) tourists, while racist is picking one specific nationality like asked by the post.
Xenophobia is about “where” the person is from, even if they “don’t look like it”, and it can also happen within a country (Brazil’s southerners tend to be very xenophobic against people from northeast). Racism would be “every white person”, whether Italian, Bri’ish, Russian, etc.
Nationalities are defiend by ethnic make up, not races.
Race is very USian thing to define things by.
Honestly its always been the British where I live. Gets drunk and tries to pick fights on the street.
Now. Most British tourists are great. Its just of all the tourists that cause problems, its usually the Brits.
Judge me if you wish. Thats just been my experince.
I’m surprised you get many of us over in Canada. Spain definitely has the right to complain, it’s very cheap and easy to get there so our drunken scumbags descend on the country every summer by the millions. I specifically don’t bother going to Spain to avoid them myself.
Is it all Brits or specifically the Irish
The Irish ain’t British you wanker.
As a British person, I am usually embarrassed to see other Brits when abroad dont get me wrong were not all terrible people but when you encounter a certain type of Brit tourist. Ugh
Don’t worry we know you’re not all the same. But yes, some of you, dear god…
Our poorest and least educated can still afford to travel, unfortunately for the host countries.
Here it’s the British
I feel like the Brits would say the same, but as a German who had the chance to observe other Germans on vacation, I want to throw in us as well
Here in Taiwan, it’s is the Chinese. But I can’t blame them. It’s their culture.
It’s the norm to have your child defecate in a park in China. Or spend a solid 5 minutes extracting toilet paper from bathroom. Or if someone accidentally dropped change, to scramble and pick it up from the ground and say it’s now their money because it was on the ground.
These where the things I saw before the Chinese were banned here. The last one was me dropping the change.
That not really being something that’s a “Chinese” characteristic, its more like government’s famines decades earlier causing the people to become desparate and hoard ever resource they could find, and also for children, the one child policy got the kids so used to being the center of attention (like my older brother being jealous of me becaus he expected to be the only child), but redditors are implying that this is a “Chinese” thing, instead of empathizing with the horrible situation that China was in after both a victim of foreign colonialism and invasions in the 19th and 20th century and also government fucking up redevelopement of the country, instead of going for the “hmm yea unfortunate situation for mainland Chinese, the environment they grew up in sucks, can’t blame them, I hope they eventually become better” which would be a valid, non-racist view, but nope redditors instead just went for the “Chinese really bad” angle instead, like impluing this is someone a thing deeply encoded in genetics/culture (which it isn’t).
I know I probably can’t analyze the comments in an unbiased way, but that’s what I feel like this is implying from tone of those comments. Perhaps I’ve just faced with too much racism in school and I’m just using pattern recognition by now. Because when I was in school, kids would say to me “Do Chinese people eat Cats and Dogs?” like not even in a way that recognize all the famines, but in the way that implies as if people are somehow “evil” and just somehow loves eating domesticated animals; yes I recognize there are some people do bad thing with animals, but that’s far from a majority, and definitely much, much less frequent in modern day where famines are no longer a thing (and thus would not need to consune domesticated animals for food), and I, right now, have a cat and that’s definitely not food to me, my cats is my friend. But my peers in school would love to paint is as if everyone in China is “eating Cats and Dogs”, which isn’t true. So I feel like some of the reddit comments describing Chinese people are essentially being used this way to invoke racist views in the readers
And also, 2020, covid, trump fucking said “China virus” with the full intent of it being used in a racist way. And then some redditors said the term “China virus” as used by trump was “not racist” so I kinda just lost faith in reddit and I feel like a lot of the users have subconcious racist views
So yea, I probably am not the most unbiased when it comes to assessing whether or nor a comment is racist, since I’ve experience so much racist things that my brain have gotten a bit pessemistic about thing. I hope that’s not the intent of these reddit comments, but its really giving me bad vibes tbh.
So here’s the thing. We can empathize with what the Chinese people have gone through over the last ~100 years, but we can also say, “you know, Chinese tourists can be entitled as shit and rude sometimes” and not have to feel guilty about it. Also, Chinese isn’t a race - not even a single ethnicity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_China
As someone who lived on the northern US border for a long time this is a very easy question for me to answer without being racist haha.
The myth of Canadian politeness really stops at the border.
Lmao I live on the Canadian side of the border and my first thought was Americans (doesnt matter the ethnicity).
Solidarity for hating on each other as tourists 🤝🏽
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In the US it’s the Chinese tourists who are the most disrespectful
Yeah, there’s a reason I won’t be visiting Yellowstone again.
