i’m English and there’s so many guys like this where i live but there doesn’t seem to be an actual name for them which is annoying bc i don’t have a name for what i’m into.
is there an actual, well agreed upon name that’s well recognised in the uk for these guys so people know what i’m on about? :|
sigh…“chav” is a classist slur that means “working class person”
it neither answers my question nor does it narrow anything down. it’s like if someone posted photos of black guys with dreads and fancy hats and they asked what type of guy they’re into and people just responded back with the n word like it answers the question or even remotely narrows anything down
https://theconversation.com/married-at-first-sight-shows-the-classist-2000s-insult-chav-hasnt-left-britains-cultural-conversation-242637
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavs:_The_Demonization_of_the_Working_Class
Are you posting this question in order to get people to say chav so you have an excuse to spread the word about “chav” being inappropriate?
it is inappropriate because it’s a slur. i’d feel the same way about someone posting pictures of rastafari men and the person posting doesn’t know what the word for them is, but instead of people giving an actual answer they just respond with “those are (n word)s” over and over
i don’t know if it’s just people trying to be edgy or not because they themselves don’t know the answer but it left a bad taste in my mouth
you didn’t answer their question
I’m not disagreeing that it’s a working clas slur, I know that. But you asked what the well agreed upon name is for that subculture is… and sadly it’s a slur. I’ve seen people describe themselves or their style using that word, I’ve been people put in dating profiles (both as a self description, and as something they’re looking for).
This fashion article uses it repeatedly (and acknowledges it’s contraversial origins as a word), but also uses “casuals”, “English working class youth” and “football hooligan” as subculture groups that wear that style of urban street wear.
If you don’t like it, don’t use it. But it is the common agreed upon term that you wanted to know. British society doest have quite the same issue with race as the USA, but It has a huge problem with classisim, and it is made much worse because people don’t even see it as a problem. You said that people wouldn’t Just describe a guy in dredds using a racial slur, but they would have 80 years ago. Britain is still at that stage with its attitudes to working class culture. And appropriately, “Chavs” by Owen Jones is a good introduction to people interested in the issue.