True, but it also reminds us what happens when someone on Lemmy gets downvoted, reported and banned for having their own valud standpoint, which is not accepted by the majority of us.
We should keep in mind that we are prone to making the same mistake.
In many ways Lemmy is so much worse the echo chamber than Reddit ever was.
A leftist/socialist/communist/Linux echo chamber is always better than a liberal one.
@ me
Have you been in reddit lately, not even close
We are, but at the same time having parallel communities helps with that
[email protected] mods are regularly featured in [email protected] , which leads more and more people to alternatives like [email protected]
Lmao it’s like the ancient https://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaCourt/ except real, i love it
Enjoy, lot of things happening there
We are, but at the same time having parallel communities helps with that
Does it though? Seems to me that we just end up with two echo chamber communities where there’s no cross pollination of ideas and no challenges to our viewpoints. It’s good that people still have a place to interact but self segregation along ideological lines isn’t healthy for anyone over the long term.
As an example it’s why I’m still subscribed to communities over on .ml. They challenge my base reality and expose me to viewpoints that I wouldn’t consider on my own.
As an example it’s why I’m still subscribed to communities over on .ml. They challenge my base reality and expose me to viewpoints that I wouldn’t consider on my own.
So it’s working?
I wonder what percentage of your comments are about pushing people off of LW.
LW mods generally don’t have more than one major community. It’s not a rule, but we have made a bit of an effort to avoid reddit-style supermods.
- [email protected]
- [email protected] : https://lemmy.zip/post/35932658
- [email protected] : https://lemmy.zip/post/36097431?scrollToComments=true
- [email protected] :
But yeah, sure, keep pushing an agenda while [email protected] is featured in YPTB every week:
don’t have more than one major community.
Same mod on
- [email protected]: 17.8K users / month
- [email protected]: 16.5K users / month
So what? At least they’re not tankies.
I think that is their main feature. To cut off the fringes of leftism and socialist ideas so it has a nice round and smooth bottom
Framing the Overton Window.
A feature for some, an anti-feature for others.
You realize that is a textbook ‘whataboutism’, right?
I’m banned from about 180 subs because a mod here decided he didn’t like my version of reality.
Everytime I post and I’m told I’m banned from whatever community I never posted in before I block that sub.
Why would I want any part of a sub that blindly and aggressively censors opinions they don’t agree with? That would be stupid, so I leave them to their bubble
What’s your version of reality?
Lemmy and any social media platform that bans or censors because the post or comment contradicts the majority is wrong. By majority I mean those using that specific social media platform. In many cases that majority opinion is actually NOT the majority opinion of society as a whole.
If you are looking for closed communities like conservatives and ml then yea they don’t allow much disagreement against them. They are there because reddit banned them at some point for the same thing
Happened to a ton of trans people on .blahaj
The 196 community didn’t like the rule that forced them to repsect a troll that was using the gender “dragonfucker” to mock and invalidate real gender identities and sexualities.
Instead of banning a single troll they banned dozens of users off the most popular community on blahaj and triggered the community to make a 196 community on .world
triggered the community to make a 196 community on .world
Triggered the mods to try to move the community to .world without even asking the community members first
Lol, tell that to the hexbear and .ml servers. My God, they’re worse than anything reddit ever did.
What could be worse than rampant racism and child porn?
Tankies, yeah, it’s definitely tankies!
Well I’ve never been harassed, doxxed, and threatened to be murdered by racists or pedophiles simply because I disagree with them. Only tankies and fascists would do that.
You haven’t ever been doxxed period, and racists have harassed killed and doxxed even for minor shit, unless your definition of fascist is very liberal
Sure it was an attempted doxxing because they’re incompetent. I’m well aware of the evils on the internet and do a decent job remaining anonymous.
Tankies have killed as many people as the Nazis, actually more. Much more deaths attributed to tankies than racists could ever dream to commit.
Why are you defending tankies?
Tankies have killed as many people as the Nazis, actually more.
Good, fuck them Nazis. Also fuck them tankies. If you’re in the fringes, you’re likely a monster. That’s not exactly a hot take, lol.
Tankies have killed as many people as the Nazis, actually more. Much more deaths attributed to tankies than racists could ever dream to commit.
I too love to make unsourced claims that minimize the evil of the Nazis.
Knowledge is power, friend.
Ah, so you’re very sneakily using inconsistent metrics to downplay the Nazis, counting every death that resulted from the policy of communists, but only counting direct and deliberate killings by Nazi Germany.
In other words, you are doing deliberate Nazi apologism.
I’m not, and I dont care who killed more people, why are you defending racists?
I visit .ml and while I do occasionally get cross threaded with them they are, overall, not terrible. Yes some of the people associated with their instance can be over the top but by and large they are just people with a different viewpoint.
I tried to do the same with hexbear but ultimately couldn’t, which may be my problem more than theirs.
I’m fairly left on the political spectrum, probably further than most, but hexbear and a lot of .ml are left to the max, as in they’re tankies. I can’t stand right-wingers much, but tankies are worse by a large margin.
Shit, they attempted to harass and dox me when I offered an opinion that didn’t agree with their very rigid worldview. I kept poking at their stubbornness then they banned me. I’m a stubborn SOAB myself.
Now I’m questioning if I should continue to use this platform. I’ve definitely started using it less since then, knowing that this platform is run by tankies.
being a neoliberal has nothing to do with being leftist.
I agree, I’m not a neo-lib, I’m a demsoc.
ooooo premium neolib
No dawg, you’re thinking of socdems. Which are still better than tankies.
if you think capitalism is better than leftism, you are not a leftist.
Not necessarily, they resemble the way conservatives comments way too much, I avoid it as much as possible. They use the same things right wingers use to prove a point
You should worry more about the content of what people say, not the form.
That’s literally all of the Internet, not just Reddit. Everyone putting themselves in echo chambers and tuning everything else out. Modern Internet is just people wanting to be told they’re right and be showered with worthless affirmations.
Nah, we ban fascists cause fascists are asshole losers who only want to be taken seriously.
I imagine you yelling this into a chamber and literally listening for the echo.
Lemmy taught me a fascist is just anyone we disagree with
I got called a fascist for saying genocide against Jews is just as bad as genocide against Palestinians. Apparently it’s fascist now to be against fascist things
EDIT: For proof, see downvotes on this comment. I genuinely can’t tell you which platform is more unhinged, this or reddit. Both are special places for special people
I’m 14 and this is deep.
I wouldn’t say Lemmy is much better though… It’s just Reddit but not on Reddit.
Lemmy feels a lot more like old reddit.
New Reddit feels artificial. The written content posts LOOK like they’re from AI. Much of the subreddits are now curated. You can’t say Luigi.
Here, it’s a bit of a wild west. And that’s okay.
There isn’t much written content posts. But the comments? I’m loving it. It comes off genuine. Human. Real. Even the shitty ones that make me want to downvote but damn do I somewhat see their perspective.
Thank you for yours!
Lemmy users are not better… but Lemmy is.
Apt
I haven’t been banned for voicing disdain about Israel here. Just a few deleted comments. But no bans.
since we’re allegedly allowed to talk about this here, what was your stance on the 2024 election (if you’re american)? I’m gonna be honest, I still don’t understand how people came to the conclusion that Trump would have been better for helping Gazans.
I’ll be honest. I saw Trump winning coming. Because a lot of people I know were repeating lies they heard from internet content. I could t put up a fight because it was just so dumb. People lost jobs. People were financially stressed. It just was a lot to fight. So much of social media has been weaponized. I was banned from Facebook before the election because I was having it out with Bot accounts calling for civil wars and violence. So Facebook does nothing about the terrorism content but blocked me for calling them out. It’s been a godsend not being on Facebook anymore.
I mean, it’s really no different on here. Giant echo chambers.
We’re a smaller chamber but a lot more echo.
We’re a smaller chamber but a lot more echo.
echo…echo
Agreed. Is there any Lemmy group where left, right, and center can discuss issues without some resorting to name calling?
The issues the right care about are Haitians eating cats and dogs. How do you not call them idiots?
Right isn’t welcome here at all. I’m center and this place is hostile as fuck.
Honestly I think that isn’t an issue with any one platform so much as it is one of the biggest successes of the extreme right. By being obnoxiously loud, openly self contradictory and everywhere in the media the extreme right has succesfully portrayed themselves as being representative of the entire right wing. This leaves the moderate right isolated, less likely to co-operate with the centre or left on issues where they might agree, and more likely to embrace the extreme right.
TLDR: Firehose of falsehood works even better when it splashes on the guy next to you.
It’s not like Lemmy is different in any way, lol.
Yeah I came across lemmy Because I was told that this place believes in free speech even if it’s something you don’t agree with. That is not true though because I’ve had mods delete my comments lol.
Yeah, it’s the same shit.
Dude this is just as bad as Reddit, The same Donald Trump being a Nazi rhetoric, I got my comment deleted that says “Hamas sucks” While somebody else’s comment says they are heroes. This website is trash and quite frankly I think Reddit might be a little better
To me the Bitcoin and crypto subs were a really weird place. Like 1 in 10 are long term investors and the rest are like “lol just wasted my grandparents savings I’m done. And just 20.”
Isn’t that like wsb most of the time, they act like nothing biggie. Alot of them are rich or trolls
Reddit is just edgy self aware facebook.
Yeah instead we just defederate them
The censorship and Napoleonic complex moderators on lemmy.world are nearly as bad as reddit
:-/
The nature of social media. Moderation takes time and energy (which amount to money). As a community grows larger, the moderators either need to increase their moderation costs or get draconian with their enforcement to reduce the expense.
Reddit is just the Late Stage of this phenomenon. If Lemmy continues to accrue users and follow the Reddit trajectory, where else can it end? I fully anticipate it’ll either go full /r/The_Donald with fascist bot-accounts spamming up every channel (a la “Nicole” spam mentioned in the pinned post). Or we’ll see mods do full instance purges of anyone suspected of any violation of any rule (perhaps even automating the process or turning it entirely over to an in-house AI) because there’s no Lemmy budget to do what Facebook or Reddit tried initially (turning moderation over to sweatshops in the Philippines or wherever labor was cheapest).
Smaller communities speed ran this transformation. Voat imploded inside a year or two. Chapo/Hexbear ate itself over the course of a couple years. TruthSocial is all just botspam now. Some of the smaller instances in Lemmy have imploded to the same effect. This instance has a rather large and active modding community. But it comes for us all in the end.
Removing posts of non news articles being posted to the news comms isn’t censorship.
Removing non-US politics posts posted to a US politics comm is not censorship.
Removing political memes posted to a non-political meme comm is not censorship.
Removing posts of something other than micro blogs to the microblogs community is not censorship.
Removing posts that break the clearly posted rules of the community is not censorship.
JFC… 🤦♂️
Removing posts of news articles you don’t agree with and calling them “non news articles” is censorship. Removing political posts and calling them “non-US political posts” is censorship. Removing memes based on political ideation is censorship. Removing a quote from FDR for pedantic reasons is censorship. Overly oppressive community rules and moderation is censorship.
Sad to see you advocating for censorship on here. 🤷
None of that is going on in the picture posted. Just because you’re butthurt about your posts being removed for not following the simplest of rules doesn’t mean you are being censored.
Wrong again. You wouldn’t be able to judge any of that because you haven’t seen what I posted and you’re simply talking out of your ass and siding with the moderators and towing the pro-censorship line.
You realize the mod log is public, and I as well as anyone else can definitely see what you posted, right?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14595043/China-unveils-vicious-new-AI-roasting-fat-lazy-Americans-tariffs-chaos-continues.html Explain to me how this isn’t a news article then. Trash article? Sure. It literally has /news/article in the hyperlink though.
Also the tankie triad
Also blahaj
Also feddit
Also .ee
I’m all in for discarding opinions. As long as who post them can argue in a civil maner, show souces and accept objective data.
Also, “they” is currently 80% chatbots
Fuck reddit, fuck spez
Meanwhile lemmy appears to self select Linux users
Early adopters and technical users are more likely to be free/libre users.
I assume this is your opinion, but you present it as a scientifically proven fact.
I’ve been online since early 1990s and this is my repeated empirical experience that communities with a technical entry threshold self-select for technical users initially.
Most social network users are already hopelessly confused by the concept of federation and need to pick up an instance.
