• givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    5 months ago

    Nope.

    It’s just when people say we should murder people, it’s against the terms of service, so the comment gets removed.

    So you can say pretty much anywhere:

    Insurance is a scam and I don’t give a fuck a CEO was murdered

    Even:

    I hope jury nullification happens for Lugi and anyone else in his position.

    But you can’t say:

    We should murder more CEOs

    It’s honestly not that complicated, but lots of people seem to be confused.

    • Susaga@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      5 months ago

      Incorrect. A comment was removed that simply said “Luigi did nothing wrong”, which aligns with your first example. The reason given was “wrongful advocacy”, which suggests having a positive opinion of Luigi is against TOS.

      If it should work as you described, it seems the mods are confused too.

      • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        5 months ago

        A comment was removed that simply said “Luigi did nothing wrong”, which aligns with your first example. The reason given was “wrongful advocacy”, which suggests having a positive opinion of Luigi is against TOS.

        Waaaay back when it happened (feels like months but wasn’t it just a few weeks?) there was a mod who didn’t understand things and removed some comments they shouldn’t. What I remember blowing up was removal of a comment just mentioning jury nullification was a thing. The mod thought because you’d get removed from a jury for talking about it, it was against US law to talk about it.

        Which is incredibly ignorant.

        Going off memory tho admins stepped in quickly and clarified what was ok.

        So if you want to talk about a past issue and how it was resolved, that’s fine.

        But it’s a different conversation than what we’re having, which is about post admin clarification

        • Susaga@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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          5 months ago

          about post admin clarification

          So, you want how things are being run today? Great. A comment was removed 22 hours ago that simply said “Luigi did nothing wrong”, and the reason given was “wrongful advocacy”. Check the modlogs.

          There is currently a mod who doesn’t understand things and is removing some comments they shouldn’t. Present tense.

          • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            5 months ago

            No idea why you’re being so vague…

            This?

            https://lemmy.world/comment/14592254

            Looks like a mod replied and then deleted so not sure what they said.

            But yeah, those comments don’t seem to violate .world’s TOS, and I have no idea why a mod would have deleted them. But mods can be stricter than the instance.

            I’m not sure why you’re blaming the whole instance for what one mod is doing.

            Edit:

            The thread title is “how to fight fascism” which is important context I missed earlier.

            So yeah, the first comment saying just “Luigi” could very easily be considered a call to violence. Then the next one say “did nothing wrong” also makes sense to remove.

            • Susaga@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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              5 months ago

              I’m not sure why you claim I’m being vague when I directly quote an entire comment.

              You said “it’s against the terms of service, so the comment gets removed”. I pointed to a comment that did NOT violate terms of service, but got removed. You defended the instance with a faulty statement. All I did was point it out.

              And no, it wasn’t a call to violence. If the statement was “we need more Luigis”, then THAT’s a call to violence. Just saying “he did nothing wrong” is the same as saying you hope he gets a jury nullification. It’s just taking his side.

              • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                5 months ago

                “Luigi” was the response to “how do we fight fascism”…

                That is the context you were avoiding by not linking.

                This isn’t an argument, I’m trying to explain something to you.

                • Susaga@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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                  5 months ago

                  I wasn’t talking about the “Luigi” comment. I was talking about the “did nothing wrong” comment. The “Luigi” comment can be seen as a call to violence, but the “did nothing wrong” comment was just a sign of support, not a call to violence. And the “did nothing wrong” comment was removed FIRST.

                  I fully understand what you’re saying. You’re just wrong.

  • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.eeEnglish
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    5 months ago

    Yes, but not particularly. By that I mean there is a line to be drawn, a legal one, and most places uphold it. Lines that becoming a rule enforcer are typically associated with the promise of keeping, lines many people do have a good grasp of. The hoopla going on, if you could call it that, is due to the circumstance of what was involved, and it’s not the “instance’s” fault currently. Defederation is a thing and so are sanctions, and the general expectations of [email protected] are not something many of us are trying to emulate, especially when Luigi was just another Herostratus when you assemble all the facts. Go watch the Dateline Tonight episode dedicated to him.