Allah@lemmy.world to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world · 28 days agoWhat are your thoughts on people who didn't vote?message-squaremessage-square52fedilinkarrow-up11arrow-down10
arrow-up11arrow-down1message-squareWhat are your thoughts on people who didn't vote?Allah@lemmy.world to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world · 28 days agomessage-square52fedilink
minus-squareNSRXN@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkarrow-up0arrow-down1·28 days ago Everyone who didn’t vote got what they asked for the only thing they clearly wanted was no winner
minus-squarebatmaniam@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up0·28 days agoThat was not an option on the table. Again, if you think it’ll lead to a better tomorrow so be it, but acknowledge the bodies paving the road.
minus-squareNSRXN@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkarrow-up0arrow-down1·28 days agovoting makes them responsible for the bodies.
minus-squarebatmaniam@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up0·28 days agoYeah… so does not… that’s the whole damn trolley problem thing… there were clear and defined outcomes for not pulling the switch. May have been justifiable, not even debating that, but you still own the choice.
minus-squareNSRXN@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkarrow-up0arrow-down1·28 days ago the whole damn trolley problem thing doesn’t have an answer. it’s a thought experiment to expose your personal ethics. deontologists never touch the switch.
minus-squarebatmaniam@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up0·28 days agodeontologists still get splattered, even if it’s the correct choice.
minus-squareNSRXN@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkarrow-up0arrow-down1·28 days agobut they have no responsibility for the circumstances.
minus-squarebatmaniam@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up0·28 days agoDidn’t say they did. People die none the less. If that’s acceptable that’s fine, but call it what it is: An acceptable loss.
minus-squareNSRXN@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkarrow-up0arrow-down1·28 days agoit is immoral to flip the switch and murder someone. that doesn’t make the situation acceptable
minus-squareNSRXN@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkarrow-up0arrow-down1·28 days agoyou can’t be responsible for something you didn’t cause. that’s not how responsibility works.
minus-squarebatmaniam@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up0·28 days agoThere are differing opinions on that depending on which philosopher is at the switch. What doesn’t change is they all have to watch the carnage.
minus-squareNSRXN@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkarrow-up0arrow-down1·28 days agobut some of them choose to become murderers
minus-squarebatmaniam@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up0·28 days agoNo, all of them did. Through action or inaction. So again, if it was in service of a better tomorrow so be it, but it is what it is.
minus-squareNSRXN@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkarrow-up0arrow-down1·28 days agoyou can’t murder through inaction, unless words don’t mean anything.
the only thing they clearly wanted was no winner
That was not an option on the table. Again, if you think it’ll lead to a better tomorrow so be it, but acknowledge the bodies paving the road.
voting makes them responsible for the bodies.
Yeah… so does not… that’s the whole damn trolley problem thing… there were clear and defined outcomes for not pulling the switch. May have been justifiable, not even debating that, but you still own the choice.
doesn’t have an answer. it’s a thought experiment to expose your personal ethics. deontologists never touch the switch.
deontologists still get splattered, even if it’s the correct choice.
but they have no responsibility for the circumstances.
Didn’t say they did. People die none the less. If that’s acceptable that’s fine, but call it what it is: An acceptable loss.
it is immoral to flip the switch and murder someone. that doesn’t make the situation acceptable
you can’t be responsible for something you didn’t cause. that’s not how responsibility works.
There are differing opinions on that depending on which philosopher is at the switch. What doesn’t change is they all have to watch the carnage.
but some of them choose to become murderers
No, all of them did. Through action or inaction. So again, if it was in service of a better tomorrow so be it, but it is what it is.
you can’t murder through inaction, unless words don’t mean anything.